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A joke what is going on in German game arcades
10th Dec. 2018, at 07:52 pm CET#191
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Skeptiker wrote on 10/12/2018 at 19:49
Apart from the fact that the umbuch lt. Gauselmann is the game: calculate times on a grand scale: 200000 machines (only) Each 20 cents, the 37 times (or so) a day...
There come in the week millions Euronen together
If that is still understandable with the posting, I throw money in and wants to play, it is not quite so simple with the umbuchbuch of the points in euro. I want to finish the game, take my win and stop playing. Nevertheless, the box still takes something off - and usually not too scarce. I can't influence it and am forced to keep playing - at least according to Gauselmann's philosophy regarding the game. Let's see if and when a knowledgeable lawyer takes on the matter and has the boxes shut down by injunction. That would be something!
i had once that one has stolen me several times 10 euros when booking over as soon as I have pressed only 1-2 times continue playing and no the money did not come back!
Idiot85 wrote on 10.12.2018 at 19:52
i had once that one has stolen me several times 10 euros when booking over as soon as I have pressed only 1-2 times continue playing and no the money did not come back!
I think that the whole "legislation" has gotten out of hand. Starting with Philip Rösler, who abolished the AQ 60% to today's TR5 - which in my opinion can only have been worked out by the Gauselmann lobbyists. So much crap in one pile - I don't even trust our "people's representatives".
If we car taxpayers would find out that there is no definition of what a car is and accordingly would not pay taxes on it - how long would a law change take? A week or two? At the most. And then there would be additional payments...
As it stands today, vending machines are hardly subject to any legal restrictions (except for the counting module). Gaming arcades are subject only to the smoking ban, youth protection and opening hours. Great player protection. Player = lawless cash cow
On the subject of booking and deducting money
According to the new gaming ordinance, a game must last 5sec
The machine operator has therefore introduced the mini roller. The booking of the mini roller on takes 5 seks per 20 cents
Conversely, this means that the actual play takes place on the mini roller. Hence the win/loss when booking
The reel spin of the games diehnt therefore only as entertainment.
Source Report Mainz on ARD from 26.11.2018
ActuallyEgal wrote on 11/12/2018 at 03:13: On the subject of booking and deducting money
According to the new gaming regulation a game must last 5sec
The automache operator has therefore introduced the mini roller . The booking of the mini roller on takes 5 seks per 20 cents
Conversely, this means that the actual play takes place on the mini roller. Hence the win/loss when booking
The reel spin of the games diehnt therefore only as entertainment.
Source Reportage Mainz on ARD from 26.11.2018
As far as everything is correct. In the law was "forgotten" to define what is actually a game. Has the Gauselmann - Group made use of and defined the Umbuchen as a game and the rest as an entertaining accessory. Thus it p**sed the legislator to the leg. Can the now so accept and be pleased as already warmly it runs down or he could say: If the remainder is only entertained accessory and not the play, can be achieved with it also no on euro umbuchbaren, auszahlbaren and finally tax-reducing "successes"
Skeptic wrote on 11/12/2018 at 04:54 PM
All correct as far as it goes. In the law was "forgotten" to define what is actually a game. Has the Gauselmann - Group made use of and defined the Umbuchen as a game and the rest as entertaining accessory. Thus it p**sed the legislator to the leg. Can the now so accept and be pleased as already warmly it runs down or he could say: If the remainder is only entertained accessory and not the play, can be achieved with it also no on euro umbuchbaren, auszahlbaren and finally tax-reducing "successes".
Is but always so that the laws can be bypassed by gaps in the law, think that is even intentionally made by the policy so.
Skitch22 wrote on 11.12.2018 at 05:01
Is but always so that the laws can be circumvented by loopholes in the law, think that is even intentionally made by the policy so.
May well be that there is intent behind it. Can go but for all involved hard in the eye, if actually times a court must deal with the matter. And I think that this will not have to wait too long - after all what is going on at the moment. There are billions of taxpayers' money at stake - someone will fall over it sooner or later. Let's hope that the time will come when nails will be put to Köppen's head and the arrogance of the corporate bosses will be severely curbed.
Skeptiker wrote on 10/12/2018 at 19:49
Apart from the fact that the umbuch lt. Gauselmann is the game: calculate times on a grand scale: 200000 machines (only) Each 20 cents, the 37 times (or so) a day...
There come in the week millions Euronen together
If that is still understandable with the posting, I throw money in and wants to play, it is not quite so simple with the umbuchbuch of the points in euro. I want to finish the game, take my win and stop playing. Nevertheless, the box still takes something off - and usually not too scarce. I can't influence it and am forced to keep playing - at least according to Gauselmann's philosophy regarding the game. Let's see if and when a knowledgeable lawyer takes on the matter and has the boxes shut down by injunction. That would be something!
But I've seen more than once on youtube that instead of 10€ e.g. 10.40€ have been posted up
To all the others: the little men can do nothing about the current legislation in terms of gambling anyway and there it remains only for us to consistently avoid the halls!
It's a bigger scam than Online Casinos, because you really know you're being "scammed".
Why it is "still" legal, nobody knows. Maybe there will soon be a new legislation from the Mrs. Annegret Kramp Karrenbauer (lol).
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A joke what is going on in German game arcades
11th Dec. 2018, at 07:44 am CET#199
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Tropper wrote on 11.12.2018 at 07:16
But I have seen more often on youtube that instead of 10€, for example, 10.40€ have been posted up
To everyone else: the little men can not do anything about the current legislation in terms of gambling anyway and there it remains only for us to consistently avoid the halls!!!
It's a bigger scam than Online Casinos, because you really know you're being "scammed".
Why it is "still" legal, nobody knows. Maybe there will soon be a new legislation from the Mrs. Annegret Kramp Karrenbauer (lol).
Angela Merkel is still chancellor, she has only given up the CDU chairmanship. Moreover, I don't think anyone will abolish it completely, at most the state monopoly could be expanded or there are complaints and protests then a liberalization with rules and strong controls might not be out of the question.
Where I think that there is only time standstill until the SH licenses expire.
Ankor wrote on 11/12/2018 at 07:44 AM
Angela Merkel is still chancellor, she just gave up the CDU presidency. Moreover, I don't think anyone will abolish it completely, at most the state monopoly could be expanded or there are complaints and protests then liberalization with rules and strong controls might not be out of the question.
Where I think that there is only time standstill until the SH licenses expire.
I know, but Merkel will soon step down, at least that's what the media says
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i had once that one has stolen me several times 10 euros when booking over as soon as I have pressed only 1-2 times continue playing and no the money did not come back!
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I think that the whole "legislation" has gotten out of hand. Starting with Philip Rösler, who abolished the AQ 60% to today's TR5 - which in my opinion can only have been worked out by the Gauselmann lobbyists. So much crap in one pile - I don't even trust our "people's representatives".
If we car taxpayers would find out that there is no definition of what a car is and accordingly would not pay taxes on it - how long would a law change take? A week or two? At the most. And then there would be additional payments...
As it stands today, vending machines are hardly subject to any legal restrictions (except for the counting module). Gaming arcades are subject only to the smoking ban, youth protection and opening hours. Great player protection. Player = lawless cash cow
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According to the new gaming ordinance, a game must last 5sec
The machine operator has therefore introduced the mini roller. The booking of the mini roller on takes 5 seks per 20 cents
Conversely, this means that the actual play takes place on the mini roller. Hence the win/loss when booking
The reel spin of the games diehnt therefore only as entertainment.
Source Report Mainz on ARD from 26.11.2018
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As far as everything is correct. In the law was "forgotten" to define what is actually a game. Has the Gauselmann - Group made use of and defined the Umbuchen as a game and the rest as an entertaining accessory. Thus it p**sed the legislator to the leg. Can the now so accept and be pleased as already warmly it runs down or he could say: If the remainder is only entertained accessory and not the play, can be achieved with it also no on euro umbuchbaren, auszahlbaren and finally tax-reducing "successes"
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Is but always so that the laws can be bypassed by gaps in the law, think that is even intentionally made by the policy so.
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May well be that there is intent behind it. Can go but for all involved hard in the eye, if actually times a court must deal with the matter. And I think that this will not have to wait too long - after all what is going on at the moment. There are billions of taxpayers' money at stake - someone will fall over it sooner or later. Let's hope that the time will come when nails will be put to Köppen's head and the arrogance of the corporate bosses will be severely curbed.
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A joke what is going on in German game arcades
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But I've seen more than once on youtube that instead of 10€ e.g. 10.40€ have been posted up
To all the others: the little men can do nothing about the current legislation in terms of gambling anyway and there it remains only for us to consistently avoid the halls!
It's a bigger scam than Online Casinos, because you really know you're being "scammed".
Why it is "still" legal, nobody knows. Maybe there will soon be a new legislation from the Mrs. Annegret Kramp Karrenbauer (lol).
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A joke what is going on in German game arcades
Nobody has liked this post so far
Angela Merkel is still chancellor, she has only given up the CDU chairmanship. Moreover, I don't think anyone will abolish it completely, at most the state monopoly could be expanded or there are complaints and protests then a liberalization with rules and strong controls might not be out of the question.
Where I think that there is only time standstill until the SH licenses expire.
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A joke what is going on in German game arcades
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I know, but Merkel will soon step down, at least that's what the media says
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