Being an extreme offline player, I now have around 1 year experience with TR5 devices. In Sept.18, many devices were already exchanged in my area. Now my experience report:
If my "hobby" in 2017 still cost me between 1500 and 2000 Eur/month (play daily), it is almost twice as high costs under Tr5.
The money is mostly rushed down mercilessly and in record time. It's been especially bad since July 2019, because there were again some updates flanged to the boxes and since then nothing works. I haven't seen any major wins from other players either. In addition, it is noticeable that with the Novo` many devices were set to game variant HA or VA, which seems to make the win even more hopeless.
In July, I had many free spins on 80cent at many venues and I did not get anywhere over 150 Eur. Also at the Merkur nothing went more.
Playing in bars and pubs was particularly merciless for me. If I made there earlier rather times beautiful wins than in gaming halls, then now exactly the opposite applies. Nothing works anymore. Ironically, under TR5 I had AG for the first time and several times. Under TR4 I never got any.
Under TR5 I had the following wins that stuck in my memory, all in 2019:
January 2019: 350 Eur win on Merkur slot Pharos on bet 30cent
February 2019: almost 800 Eur win on Magic Mirror Deluxe 2 on bet 10cent
April 2019: 300 Eur win again at MMD 2 on bet 10cent and 250 Eur win at Pharos 2 on bet 30cent 1200 Eur win at Lord of the Ocean bet 80cent
May 2019: 600 Eur win at Faust on bet 2 Eur
June 2019: 1500 win on Book of Ra deluxe bet 30cent 600 Eur win on Merkur slot (forgot name) on bet 1 Eur
Since then nothing worth mentioning came. July/August/Sept were absolutely disastrous.
Conclusion: Costs for the "hobby" have risen very strongly, many free spins even on high bet 80cent to 2 Eur bring joke winnings.
It is noticeable that just the Novos throw a single time free spins and then basically nothing goes.
Now and then there are rough outliers to the positive, which triggers many then again and continues to play.
The booking is annoying without end. In the beginning, players were only allowed to play one Novo machine. In the meantime, everything is back to the old way and in most halls, players gamble on several machines. Also one finds again frequently Novos without code, player card, straight in snack bars, bars
Why also always????
There is still a lot of gambling going on here. No halls had to close because customers stayed away.
i haven't played offline for about three years because big wins in arcades are just an illusion.
You don't like to hear that, but if you play often, you lose, basically.
In general, I have extremely reduced my gambling behavior. With bigger wins I often take a break for a month, what seems hard at first becomes a habit (which is bad enough ).
Generally, my limit per month is 150 € and I play with relatively large stakes 40 ct.-2 €.
Once adhered to, it is not difficult to call the whole thing a hobby and it is so much more fun.
Edit: And you actually have something from your win!
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Being an extreme offline player, I now have around 1 year experience with TR5 devices. In Sept.18 there were already many devices replaced in my area. Now my experience report:
If my "hobby" in 2017 still cost me between 1500 and 2000 Eur/month (play daily), it is almost twice as high costs under Tr5.
The money is mostly rushed down mercilessly and in record time. It's been especially bad since July 2019, because there were again some updates flanged to the boxes and since then nothing works. I haven't seen any major wins from other players either. In addition, it is noticeable that with the Novo` many devices were set to game variant HA or VA, which seems to make the win even more hopeless.
In July, I had many free spins on 80cent at many venues and I did not get anywhere over 150 Eur. Also at the Merkur nothing went more.
Playing in bars and pubs was particularly merciless for me. If I made there earlier rather times beautiful wins than in gaming halls, then now exactly the opposite applies. Nothing works anymore. Ironically, under TR5 I had AG for the first time and several times. Under TR4 I never got any.
Under TR5 I had the following wins that stuck in my memory, all in 2019:
January 2019: 350 Eur win on Merkur slot Pharos on bet 30cent
February 2019: almost 800 Eur win on Magic Mirror Deluxe 2 on bet 10cent
April 2019: 300 Eur win again at MMD 2 on bet 10cent and 250 Eur win at Pharos 2 on bet 30cent 1200 Eur win at Lord of the Ocean bet 80cent
May 2019: 600 Eur win at Faust on bet 2 Eur
June 2019: 1500 win on Book of Ra deluxe bet 30cent 600 Eur win on Merkur slot (forgot name) on bet 1 Eur
Since then nothing worth mentioning came. July/August/Sept were absolutely disastrous.
Conclusion: Costs for the "hobby" have risen very strongly, many free spins even on high bet 80cent to 2 Eur bring joke winnings.
It is noticeable that just the Novos throw a single time free spins and then basically nothing goes.
Now and then there are rough outliers to the positive, which triggers many then again and continues to play.
The booking is annoying without end. In the beginning, players were only allowed to play one Novo machine. In the meantime, everything is back to the old way and in most halls, players gamble on several machines. Also one finds again frequently Novos without code, player card, straight in snack bars, bars
Why also always????
There is still a lot of gambling going on here. No halls had to close because customers stayed away.
i wonder why you still play offline at all since you have
it is well known how bad the payout ratios are offline
and what are you doing professionally if you can afford to gamble 1500-2000
or 3000-4000€ a month to gamble away I mean you have to live and
still live on something and live.
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The thing is, I can't really keep my hands off it, and playing live on a machine is a different feeling than playing on the PC.
Most of the people who gamble excessively in pubs and arcades have little interest in online gaming. The most extreme offline gamer I know, who is basically out of money by the 10th of the month and fortunately can eat for free at his company, wants absolutely nothing to do with online gaming. You can say that I have myself well under control online, but offline mostly not at all. So things like the 1200 Eur Lord of the Ocean win (with only 2 times 2 Euromünzen EInwurf in a Gyrosimbiss) I had in Online Casinos just never. In online casinos I was unsuccessful with a few exceptions.
The money for these Zockexzesse came / comes from an inheritance. From my salary that would never go
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thank you for your frank answer
i can understand that ...the haptic of the machine the soundscape the people
all this is not available online but as far as the wins are concerned, depending on
online depending on your playing behavior (at least me) certainly better off.
i have a friend who is 7 years older than me and just under 30 years ago when online
casinos was also a total intense gambler and according to his
he gambled away about 250 000 dm until everything was gone...apartment, car, girlfriend, job.
then private insolvency and therapy and is also except for the one or other Poker home
game round and 1-2 small relapses until today dry.
he always warns me when it comes to this topic and he can't understand
understand that you can play controlled and with a fixed limit over a longer period of time
limit without losing control of the game.
and then also with a positive balance...
but i also play for completely different reasons like him and like you
probably also. i do it to earn a little bit of money on the side
if i would not even break even for 2-3 months,
the game would be totally uninteresting for me but since i have been
some time for a similar site like gamble joe casinos
and therefore I have to invest even less of my own money
this will not happen so quickly
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Let's be honest, leave these games alone
Such a low AQ with such a high number of cycles is not to be conveyed to any serious gambler, it is an imposition and humiliation of the player
Of course, Lotto has a similarly bad AQ, but you usually play one ticket per week and that's it
Go times with 10€ to a Spielo machine ran: after 3 min they are on 20ct away🤣
And who takes the journey because of 3 minutes "fun" on itself? The next bill is shrugged... Quickly a green is gone
To top it off, the gangster and gypsy crowd there, no thanks. 😬
If you absolutely want to gamble offline, then rather look out for a neat casino
There, too, you can lose a lot, but you can also win according to the stakes. Plus cool drinks and often musical entertainment. Significantly higher AQ, ergo lower long-term losses with the same playing style
Invest your inheritance better than throwing it down the game owner's throat
Greetings
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Sascha666 wrote on 12/09/2019 at 03:23: Honestly, leave the fingers from these Spielunken
Such a low AQ at such a high clock rate is not to be conveyed to any serious gambler, it is an imposition and humiliation of the player
Of course, Lotto has a similarly bad AQ, but you usually play one ticket per week and that's it
Go times with 10€ to a Spielo machine ran: after 3 min they are on 20ct away🤣
And who takes the journey because of 3 minutes "fun" on itself? The next bill is shrugged... Quickly a green is gone
To top it off, the gangster and gypsy crowd there, no thanks. 😬
If you absolutely want to gamble offline, then rather look out for a neat casino
There, too, you can lose a lot, but you can also win according to the stakes. Plus cool drinks and often musical entertainment. Significantly higher AQ, ergo lower long-term losses with the same playing style
Invest your inheritance better than throwing it down the game owner's throat
Greetings
I have to say one thing: I have visited a gambling house of a bigger chain 4 times in the last 2 weeks and I was able to take a small win each time. More problematic than the gambling houses and more lossy was/is with me the bar/pub gambling. Especially in my favorite pub it often happened that I lost 300 Euros in one day at the 3 machines there. This pub has a large number of gambling-addicted regulars, who gamble away very high sums. In July and August I played almost only in pubs/bars, which was the absolute GAU.
Yes, the gambling public is really mostly under all Kanone. I agree with you. However, that also has a certain charm, because you don't see what is offered there in any zoo. The current highlight is a not very attractive Bulgarian transvestite in pink ballerinas with stubble and a deep voice, who is so angry that he hits the screen and hammers the keys so hard that they almost jump out. And no matter in which Spielo of my city you meet actually felt always in one.
Since it is directly boring on the PC against.
The AQ in Spielotheken/Bars one finds out, at least with us, anyway never. I have not yet seen / found any stickers, notes in this regard.l
It's pretty crazy to waste your inheritance! Put it nevertheless rather to... or deal otherwise sensibly with it.
As the previous speakers already wrote here, Spielos dead...are like rich wild .
I personally try only 15€ per 1-2 weeks in a Spielo from...because you should not invest more.
Sure you get flashed when one has 980€ on the speedometer plus 73 AGs, but if you're honest, something like that happens 1 time a year to a player of 1000.
Spielos are in themselves a total Katastropeh, and I hope that very many will be closed soon.
I wish for a game free regulated country, like Austria or Poland.
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vomvom12 wrote at 01:29 on 2019-09-12
but i also play for completely different reasons like him and like you
probably also. i do it to earn a little money on the side
earn
Good one!
We believe all gamble to earn some coal on the side!
But unfortunately our backers have mostly...um... other views
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pawel_008 wrote on 09/12/2019 10:30 am: That's pretty crazy to blow your inheritance! Why don't you put it on... or otherwise deal with it sensibly?
As the previous speakers here already wrote, Spielos dead...are like rich wild .
I personally try only 15€ per 1-2 weeks in a Spielo from...because you should not invest more.
Sure you get flashed when one has 980€ on the speedometer plus 73 AGs, but if you're honest, something like that happens 1 time a year to a player of 1000.
Spielos are in themselves a total Katastropeh, and I hope that very many will be closed soon.
I wish for a game free regulated country, like Austria or Poland.
Austria is a game free country??? I know older reports there was a possibility to play at the other and there could be played with 10 Eur/spin (no casino). I was recently told that Slot machine gambling was banned in Greece. My neighbor was recently in Porto. His gambling-addicted life companion was there coldly and highly agressiv thereby, because one can probably gamble in Portugal neither in pubs, bars, nor gaming houses
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Being an extreme offline player, I now have around 1 year experience with TR5 devices. In Sept.18, many devices were already exchanged in my area. Now my experience report:
If my "hobby" in 2017 still cost me between 1500 and 2000 Eur/month (play daily), it is almost twice as high costs under Tr5.
The money is mostly rushed down mercilessly and in record time. It's been especially bad since July 2019, because there were again some updates flanged to the boxes and since then nothing works. I haven't seen any major wins from other players either. In addition, it is noticeable that with the Novo` many devices were set to game variant HA or VA, which seems to make the win even more hopeless.
In July, I had many free spins on 80cent at many venues and I did not get anywhere over 150 Eur. Also at the Merkur nothing went more.
Playing in bars and pubs was particularly merciless for me. If I made there earlier rather times beautiful wins than in gaming halls, then now exactly the opposite applies. Nothing works anymore. Ironically, under TR5 I had AG for the first time and several times. Under TR4 I never got any.
Under TR5 I had the following wins that stuck in my memory, all in 2019:
January 2019: 350 Eur win on Merkur slot Pharos on bet 30cent
February 2019: almost 800 Eur win on Magic Mirror Deluxe 2 on bet 10cent
April 2019: 300 Eur win again at MMD 2 on bet 10cent and 250 Eur win at Pharos 2 on bet 30cent 1200 Eur win at Lord of the Ocean bet 80cent
May 2019: 600 Eur win at Faust on bet 2 Eur
June 2019: 1500 win on Book of Ra deluxe bet 30cent 600 Eur win on Merkur slot (forgot name) on bet 1 Eur
Since then nothing worth mentioning came. July/August/Sept were absolutely disastrous.
Conclusion: Costs for the "hobby" have risen very strongly, many free spins even on high bet 80cent to 2 Eur bring joke winnings.
It is noticeable that just the Novos throw a single time free spins and then basically nothing goes.
Now and then there are rough outliers to the positive, which triggers many then again and continues to play.
The booking is annoying without end. In the beginning, players were only allowed to play one Novo machine. In the meantime, everything is back to the old way and in most halls, players gamble on several machines. Also one finds again frequently Novos without code, player card, straight in snack bars, bars
Why also always????
There is still a lot of gambling going on here. No halls had to close because customers stayed away.
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i haven't played offline for about three years because big wins in arcades are just an illusion.
You don't like to hear that, but if you play often, you lose, basically.
In general, I have extremely reduced my gambling behavior. With bigger wins I often take a break for a month, what seems hard at first becomes a habit (which is bad enough ).
Generally, my limit per month is 150 € and I play with relatively large stakes 40 ct.-2 €.
Once adhered to, it is not difficult to call the whole thing a hobby and it is so much more fun.
Edit: And you actually have something from your win!
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i wonder why you still play offline at all since you have
it is well known how bad the payout ratios are offline
and what are you doing professionally if you can afford to gamble 1500-2000
or 3000-4000€ a month to gamble away I mean you have to live and
still live on something and live.
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The thing is, I can't really keep my hands off it, and playing live on a machine is a different feeling than playing on the PC.
Most of the people who gamble excessively in pubs and arcades have little interest in online gaming. The most extreme offline gamer I know, who is basically out of money by the 10th of the month and fortunately can eat for free at his company, wants absolutely nothing to do with online gaming. You can say that I have myself well under control online, but offline mostly not at all. So things like the 1200 Eur Lord of the Ocean win (with only 2 times 2 Euromünzen EInwurf in a Gyrosimbiss) I had in Online Casinos just never. In online casinos I was unsuccessful with a few exceptions.
The money for these Zockexzesse came / comes from an inheritance. From my salary that would never go
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i can understand that ...the haptic of the machine the soundscape the people
all this is not available online but as far as the wins are concerned, depending on
online depending on your playing behavior (at least me) certainly better off.
i have a friend who is 7 years older than me and just under 30 years ago when online
casinos was also a total intense gambler and according to his
he gambled away about 250 000 dm until everything was gone...apartment, car, girlfriend, job.
then private insolvency and therapy and is also except for the one or other Poker home
game round and 1-2 small relapses until today dry.
he always warns me when it comes to this topic and he can't understand
understand that you can play controlled and with a fixed limit over a longer period of time
limit without losing control of the game.
and then also with a positive balance...
but i also play for completely different reasons like him and like you
probably also. i do it to earn a little bit of money on the side
if i would not even break even for 2-3 months,
the game would be totally uninteresting for me but since i have been
some time for a similar site like gamble joe casinos
and therefore I have to invest even less of my own money
this will not happen so quickly
Edit: White font color changed so that you can read the post.
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Such a low AQ with such a high number of cycles is not to be conveyed to any serious gambler, it is an imposition and humiliation of the player
Of course, Lotto has a similarly bad AQ, but you usually play one ticket per week and that's it
Go times with 10€ to a Spielo machine ran: after 3 min they are on 20ct away🤣
And who takes the journey because of 3 minutes "fun" on itself? The next bill is shrugged... Quickly a green is gone
To top it off, the gangster and gypsy crowd there, no thanks. 😬
If you absolutely want to gamble offline, then rather look out for a neat casino
There, too, you can lose a lot, but you can also win according to the stakes. Plus cool drinks and often musical entertainment. Significantly higher AQ, ergo lower long-term losses with the same playing style
Here's something else to laugh about:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/spielotheken-und-spielbanken/allgemeines/novoline-abzocke--54802/#p54802
Invest your inheritance better than throwing it down the game owner's throat
Greetings
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I have to say one thing: I have visited a gambling house of a bigger chain 4 times in the last 2 weeks and I was able to take a small win each time. More problematic than the gambling houses and more lossy was/is with me the bar/pub gambling. Especially in my favorite pub it often happened that I lost 300 Euros in one day at the 3 machines there. This pub has a large number of gambling-addicted regulars, who gamble away very high sums. In July and August I played almost only in pubs/bars, which was the absolute GAU.
Yes, the gambling public is really mostly under all Kanone. I agree with you. However, that also has a certain charm, because you don't see what is offered there in any zoo. The current highlight is a not very attractive Bulgarian transvestite in pink ballerinas with stubble and a deep voice, who is so angry that he hits the screen and hammers the keys so hard that they almost jump out. And no matter in which Spielo of my city you meet actually felt always in one.
Since it is directly boring on the PC against.
The AQ in Spielotheken/Bars one finds out, at least with us, anyway never. I have not yet seen / found any stickers, notes in this regard.l
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As the previous speakers already wrote here, Spielos dead...are like rich wild .
I personally try only 15€ per 1-2 weeks in a Spielo from...because you should not invest more.
Sure you get flashed when one has 980€ on the speedometer plus 73 AGs, but if you're honest, something like that happens 1 time a year to a player of 1000.
Spielos are in themselves a total Katastropeh, and I hope that very many will be closed soon.
I wish for a game free regulated country, like Austria or Poland.
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Good one!
We believe all gamble to earn some coal on the side!
But unfortunately our backers have mostly...um... other views
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Austria is a game free country??? I know older reports there was a possibility to play at the other and there could be played with 10 Eur/spin (no casino). I was recently told that Slot machine gambling was banned in Greece. My neighbor was recently in Porto. His gambling-addicted life companion was there coldly and highly agressiv thereby, because one can probably gamble in Portugal neither in pubs, bars, nor gaming houses
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