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Shame for gambling addiction: How do you deal with this shame?
25th Oct. 2017, at 01:35 pm CEST#11
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Hammerdammer wrote on 10/25/2017 at 12:56 PM
TomWegas wrote on 25.10.2017 at 09:02: Just to make it clearer: I push it of course also no one unsolicited on the eye that I am addicted to gambling. It would also be strange to go to a bakery and tell the baker that you are a gambling addict without him asking. :- )
Wait a minute. You don't go to the baker and say: " Good day. I would like to have 3 rolls and I am a gambling addict"?
How can you live like that?
If I didn't say that to the mailman's face every day, I wouldn't dare leave the house.
Since I don't have a permanent residence at the moment, I fortunately don't have the problem with the mailman.
The bakers also change constantly and are in countries where I do not speak the local language, so it also fails because of the language barrier. Enough that I have to explain to them with hands and feet which baked goods I want... But tell someone in a bakery with hands and feet understandable that you are addicted to gambling, not so easy...:-P
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Shame for gambling addiction: How do you deal with this shame?
25th Oct. 2017, at 09:28 pm CEST#12
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TomWegas wrote on 10/25/2017 at 1:35 PM
Hammerdammer wrote on 10/25/2017 at 12:56 PM
TomWegas wrote on 10/25/2017 at 09:02: Just to make it clearer: I push it of course also no one unsolicited on the eye that I am addicted to gambling. It would also be strange to go to a bakery and tell the baker that you are a gambling addict without him asking. :- )
Wait a minute. You don't go to the baker and say: " Good day. I would like to have 3 rolls and I am a gambling addict"?
How can you live like that?
If I didn't say that to the mailman's face every day, I wouldn't dare leave the house.
Since I don't have a permanent residence at the moment, I fortunately don't have the problem with the mailman.
The bakers also change constantly and are in countries where I do not speak the local language, so it also fails because of the language barrier. It's enough that I have to explain them with hands and feet which baked goods I want... But tell someone in a bakery with hands and feet understandable that you are addicted to gambling, not so easy...:-P
Sorry if I ask "off-topic", I always find something interesting: without a permanent residence --> you travel around all the time or live with friends here and there?
Shame for gambling addiction: How do you deal with this shame?
25th Oct. 2017, at 11:15 pm CEST#13
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TomWegas wrote on 10/24/2017 at 12:02 PM
Daniel wrote on 10/24/2017 at 11:18: Basically / in theory you are right (just stand by it and be honest). But in practice it is not so easy to implement. People care what other people think about you. And this is not so easy to train off
Of course it is not easy but it is worth it. What is "not so easy" usually brings you more in life than the simple and fast way.
There will always be people who think you are a weirdo, a jerk or whatever (even without Gambling addiction that would be the case). The bigger problem is that you have a very bad opinion of yourself because of your gambling addiction and you don't want others to think about you the way you do partly because of your gambling addiction. But you are more than just your gambling addiction and other people will see that if they are in their right mind.
If someone attacks you because of your gambling addiction then that is their character weakness not yours. Your weakness is only the gambling addiction itself, you should accept that, only then you can work on the addiction so that you have some respect for yourself again.
Man man that sounds like from a psychologist. Not bad Do you do that professionally? In any case, well expressed!
I also deal with it very openly. Actually, always. Especially because at the beginning I was not even aware that it is something "bad". You didn't have any debts yet, you always won something, it was somehow even something cool. But with a few people I regret in retrospect that I was so open. They interpret it as a weakness on my part and tend to make fun of me. It's also not a good idea at work. By the way, I am completely Debt-free since a few weeks It was "only" a few hundred from the family and an overdrawn checking account, but it was still a shitty feeling. Now it's all sorted out and I was even able to put something aside. That's because of my current hot streak. Since there are the new Big-Time Gaming games on various sites, I play almost only those and win high more often (always in the same casino). Do you think the casino (even if it is reputable) will eventually say that you are banned because you only play the same games and thus win too often??? I think not, but you never know when you read that "chmi77" was banned simply because he deposited too much. They would certainly not have banned him if he had not won...
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26th Oct. 2017, at 11:40 am CEST#14
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Andrew789 wrote on 10/25/2017 at 11:15 PM
TomWegas wrote on 10/24/2017 at 12:02 PM
Daniel wrote on 10/24/2017 at 11:18 am: Basically / in theory you are right (just stand by it and be honest). But in practice it is not so easy to implement. People care what other people think about you. And this is not so easy to train off
Of course it is not easy but it is worth it. What is "not so easy" usually brings you more in life than the simple and fast way.
There will always be people who think you are a weirdo, a jerk or whatever (even without Gambling addiction that would be the case). The bigger problem is that you have a very bad opinion of yourself because of your gambling addiction and you don't want others to think about you the way you do partly because of your gambling addiction. But you are more than just your gambling addiction and other people will see that if they are in their right mind.
If someone attacks you because of your gambling addiction then that is their character weakness not yours. Your weakness is only the gambling addiction itself, you should accept that, only then you can work on the addiction so that you have some respect for yourself again.
Man man that sounds like from a psychologist. Not bad Do you do that professionally? In any case, well expressed!
I also deal with it very openly. Actually, always. Especially because at the beginning I was not even aware that it is something "bad". You didn't have any debts yet, you always won something, it was somehow even something cool. But with a few people I regret in retrospect that I was so open. They interpret it as a weakness on my part and tend to make fun of me. It's also not a good idea at work. By the way, I am completely Debt-free since a few weeks It was "only" a few hundred from the family and an overdrawn checking account, but it was still a shitty feeling. Now it's all sorted out and I was even able to put something aside. That's because of my current hot streak. Since there are the new Big-Time Gaming games on various sites, I play almost only those and win high more often (always in the same casino). Do you think the casino (even if it is reputable) will eventually say that you are banned because you only play the same games and thus win too often??? I think not, but you never know when you read that "chmi77" was banned simply because he deposited too much. They would certainly not have banned him if he had not won...
Which games do you play? Vll I try out something new
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26th Oct. 2017, at 12:17 pm CEST#15
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Avantgarde83 wrote on 10/25/2017 at 9:28 PM
Sorry if I ask "off-topic", I always find something like this interesting: without a permanent residence --> you travel around all the time or stay with friends sometimes here and there?
I gave away almost everything I owned and travel around with hand luggage. Rent me always what, so not with friends or so, because I would feel stupid, do not want to be anyone on the pocket...
Just live very minimalist and have no possessions except what I carry in hand luggage with me.
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26th Oct. 2017, at 12:24 pm CEST#16
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TomWegas wrote on 10/26/2017 at 12:17 PM
Avantgarde83 wrote on 10/25/2017 at 9:28 PM
Sorry if I ask "off-topic", I always find something like this interesting: without a permanent residence --> you travel around all the time or stay with friends sometimes here and there?
I gave away almost everything I owned and travel around with hand luggage. Rent me always what, so not with friends or so, because I would feel stupid, do not want to be anyone on the pocket...
Just live very minimalist and have no possessions except what I carry in hand luggage with me.
Hats off, I find a cool lifestyle! If you're ever in Bremen or the surrounding area, you can crash with us and we drink a beer...
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26th Oct. 2017, at 12:35 pm CEST#17
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Andrew789 wrote on 10/25/2017 at 11:15 PM
Man man that sounds like from a psychologist. Not bad Do you do this for a living? Definitely well put!
Nee do not do that professionally, but I've just been through various phases of this addiction and participate since I'm 7 years old in gambling. Are now 25 years, there was a lot of time to think I'm also constantly working on my personality and try to grow.
You should forbid yourself to make debts or to borrow money. This will save you a lot of problems. Once you've been in the sh*t and gotten out, that's a good time to set that rule. It saves you a lot of trouble with yourself and your own conscience.
Regarding your blocking of a casino because the player has a run, this has never happened to me because it simply makes no sense. The run of the player will also end again and he loses the winnings +X again and the casino can book it as a profit. For a casino is only important that is played because they get on average about 4-5% of each bet made, who is then the one who is on the positive side of the Variance and still wins, that is the casino no matter
With Chmi it was, if I understood it correctly, so that the card payments were blocked and not the casino account. This is I think not because of Gambling addiction happened but because of money laundering suspicion, there are certain patterns deposited with the payment providers and if there is a suspicious behavior pattern comes automatically a block in force
As an addicted gambler who pays in a lot of money, you run the Risk of being blocked from time to time and therefore receiving a call. The suspicion of money laundering is usually the reason why a bank employee asks or must ask because of the law. The gambling addiction itself does not interest them, as long as you are not guilty of anything because of it. To get angry about the fact that the "run" was ended I personally think is the wrong way to look at it
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7th Feb. 2018, at 06:02 pm CET#18
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Moin,
my bank has set me the Dispo at will up a call and the next thousand were free ...
Even when I applied for a loan, no one was interested, a few signatures and proof of salary and the loan was there, was probably because I was there forever long customer and was never what, not even return debit notes or the like.
I was amazed only when I changed the account and the Dispo monthly with 300 € have redeemed without incoming salary, then the account was quickly canceled and the letter from the collection agency in the mailbox, closer I will not go into it, the "disaster" took its course and the spiral turned further and further ...
Excuses were with me in the past quite often in the private environment, since no one has yet raised suspicions, but maybe you have to be confronted with the matter somehow directly.
With me it is so I lift at the ATM what I need to live, food, drink, smoking, etc. a part is saved a part is used for Debt reduction and a part to play, I win something flows a part in the debt reduction, a part is saved and a part is used so, nothing is paid from the profits, the savings is TABU.
But I have to say that gambling has changed me somehow, I still play, but it is anderst as in "old times" more controlled I would say.
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7th Feb. 2018, at 07:06 pm CET#19
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Roflcopter1312 wrote on 07/02/2018 at 18:02: But I have to say playing has changed me somehow, I still play but it's different as in "old times" more controlled I would say.
Yes, with time (and after getting into shit 1 - 2 times) you kind of learn to play more controlled - for the most part at least. I've had that experience as well. When all the fun started, I didn't know any limits either and gambled the bank account mercilessly to 0 - from 30.000€ to 0€.
On the positive side, I never borrowed money (except for one time 100€), never stole money or did other crooked things just to be able to gamble. I have also never made direct debts to be able to gamble, that is, no Dispo opened, no loan taken out or the like, only with the goal to be able to gamble. Of course, I have already accumulated debts indirectly through gambling. Taxes and health Insurance contributions not put aside and gambled away
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7th Feb. 2018, at 07:12 pm CET#20
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Daniel wrote on 07/02/2018 at 19:06
Roflcopter1312 wrote on 02/07/2018 at 18:02: But I have to say playing has changed me somehow, I still play but it's different like in "old times" more controlled I would say.
Yes, with time (and after getting into shit 1 - 2 times) you kind of learn to play more controlled - for the most part at least. I've had that experience as well. When all the fun started, I didn't know any limits either and gambled the bank account mercilessly to 0 - from 30.000€ to 0€.
30K? I never had that much in the account before 😳
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Since I don't have a permanent residence at the moment, I fortunately don't have the problem with the mailman.
The bakers also change constantly and are in countries where I do not speak the local language, so it also fails because of the language barrier. Enough that I have to explain to them with hands and feet which baked goods I want... But tell someone in a bakery with hands and feet understandable that you are addicted to gambling, not so easy...:-P
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Sorry if I ask "off-topic", I always find something interesting: without a permanent residence --> you travel around all the time or live with friends here and there?
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Man man that sounds like from a psychologist. Not bad Do you do that professionally? In any case, well expressed!
I also deal with it very openly. Actually, always. Especially because at the beginning I was not even aware that it is something "bad". You didn't have any debts yet, you always won something, it was somehow even something cool. But with a few people I regret in retrospect that I was so open. They interpret it as a weakness on my part and tend to make fun of me. It's also not a good idea at work. By the way, I am completely Debt-free since a few weeks It was "only" a few hundred from the family and an overdrawn checking account, but it was still a shitty feeling. Now it's all sorted out and I was even able to put something aside. That's because of my current hot streak. Since there are the new Big-Time Gaming games on various sites, I play almost only those and win high more often (always in the same casino). Do you think the casino (even if it is reputable) will eventually say that you are banned because you only play the same games and thus win too often??? I think not, but you never know when you read that "chmi77" was banned simply because he deposited too much. They would certainly not have banned him if he had not won...
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Which games do you play? Vll I try out something new
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I gave away almost everything I owned and travel around with hand luggage. Rent me always what, so not with friends or so, because I would feel stupid, do not want to be anyone on the pocket...
Just live very minimalist and have no possessions except what I carry in hand luggage with me.
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Hats off, I find a cool lifestyle! If you're ever in Bremen or the surrounding area, you can crash with us and we drink a beer...
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Nee do not do that professionally, but I've just been through various phases of this addiction and participate since I'm 7 years old in gambling. Are now 25 years, there was a lot of time to think I'm also constantly working on my personality and try to grow.
You should forbid yourself to make debts or to borrow money. This will save you a lot of problems. Once you've been in the sh*t and gotten out, that's a good time to set that rule. It saves you a lot of trouble with yourself and your own conscience.
Regarding your blocking of a casino because the player has a run, this has never happened to me because it simply makes no sense. The run of the player will also end again and he loses the winnings +X again and the casino can book it as a profit. For a casino is only important that is played because they get on average about 4-5% of each bet made, who is then the one who is on the positive side of the Variance and still wins, that is the casino no matter
With Chmi it was, if I understood it correctly, so that the card payments were blocked and not the casino account. This is I think not because of Gambling addiction happened but because of money laundering suspicion, there are certain patterns deposited with the payment providers and if there is a suspicious behavior pattern comes automatically a block in force
As an addicted gambler who pays in a lot of money, you run the Risk of being blocked from time to time and therefore receiving a call. The suspicion of money laundering is usually the reason why a bank employee asks or must ask because of the law. The gambling addiction itself does not interest them, as long as you are not guilty of anything because of it. To get angry about the fact that the "run" was ended I personally think is the wrong way to look at it
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my bank has set me the Dispo at will up a call and the next thousand were free ...
Even when I applied for a loan, no one was interested, a few signatures and proof of salary and the loan was there, was probably because I was there forever long customer and was never what, not even return debit notes or the like.
I was amazed only when I changed the account and the Dispo monthly with 300 € have redeemed without incoming salary, then the account was quickly canceled and the letter from the collection agency in the mailbox, closer I will not go into it, the "disaster" took its course and the spiral turned further and further ...
Excuses were with me in the past quite often in the private environment, since no one has yet raised suspicions, but maybe you have to be confronted with the matter somehow directly.
With me it is so I lift at the ATM what I need to live, food, drink, smoking, etc. a part is saved a part is used for Debt reduction and a part to play, I win something flows a part in the debt reduction, a part is saved and a part is used so, nothing is paid from the profits, the savings is TABU.
But I have to say that gambling has changed me somehow, I still play, but it is anderst as in "old times" more controlled I would say.
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Yes, with time (and after getting into shit 1 - 2 times) you kind of learn to play more controlled - for the most part at least. I've had that experience as well. When all the fun started, I didn't know any limits either and gambled the bank account mercilessly to 0 - from 30.000€ to 0€.
On the positive side, I never borrowed money (except for one time 100€), never stole money or did other crooked things just to be able to gamble. I have also never made direct debts to be able to gamble, that is, no Dispo opened, no loan taken out or the like, only with the goal to be able to gamble. Of course, I have already accumulated debts indirectly through gambling. Taxes and health Insurance contributions not put aside and gambled away
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30K? I never had that much in the account before 😳
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