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Gambling addiction in general: Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

Topic created on 19th Dec. 2019 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 28 | Views: 6,562
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

19th Dec. 2019, at 04:33 pm CET#1
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Have there an interesting article found.
Whether credible or not, everyone can find out for themselves....

"Marc Lewis is a neuroscientist and retired professor of developmental psychology. he received his Ph.D. in psychology from the University of Toronto in 1989. In his youth, he experimented a lot with various drugs. Then he became addicted and could only finally break away from them in his 30s"

He then returned to drugs in his professional career, researching the effects of addiction on the human brain
He wrote down his experiences in two books.

In the latter, he explains why addiction is not a disease....

"People with gambling addiction or sex addiction show the same neural changes in the brain that can be seen in heroin or alcohol addicts."

More at this link:
https://www.msn.com/de-de/gesundheit/other/neurologe-erkl%c3%a4rt-die-wahre-ursache-von-sucht-%e2%80%94-es-ist-nicht-was-ihr-denkt/ar-BBY8eOl?li=BBqgbZM&ocid=ACERDHP17

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Dbac79
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

19th Dec. 2019, at 06:49 pm CET#2
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i only know that if you give an addict the choice of gambling away 100 euros or 100 euros of heroin he will always take the heroin

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Falko
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

19th Dec. 2019, at 07:25 pm CET#3
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Dbac79 wrote on 19.12.2019 at 18:49: I only know that if you give an addict the choice of either 100 euros gamble or 100 euros heroin will always take the heroin

If he is addicted to both, I would also clearly say that he prefers heroin. Gambling addiction doesn't cause any pain, except maybe mental pain, but with heroin it's a completely different story. I have known people who injected the stuff and they were irritable most of the time and talked about almost nothing else. For me, meeting such people was the best help to never touch this awesome drug at that time when I was also in contact with drugs. Heroin addiction I would call a disease and gambling addiction can be seen either way.

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Dbac79
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

19th Dec. 2019, at 09:31 pm CET#4
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Falko wrote on 12/19/2019 at 7:25 pm

If he is addicted to both, I would also clearly say that he prefers heroin. Gambling addiction doesn't cause any pain except maybe mental,but with heroin it's quite different. I have known people who injected the stuff and they were irritable most of the time and talked about almost nothing else. For me, meeting such people was the best help to never touch this awesome drug at that time when I was also in contact with drugs. Heroin addiction I would call a disease and gambling addiction can be seen either way.

another difference is the fact that a person can gamble for weeks without being addicted, but after weeks of heroin everyone is addicted. that's why for me gambling is not an addiction

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Huhne
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

20th Dec. 2019, at 09:40 pm CET#5
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So Gambling addiction is not an addiction? Just because you don't get as addicted ... as physically ... as you do to heroin? What a crock of shit.

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rosiking
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

21st Dec. 2019, at 08:49 am CET#6
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Dbac79 wrote on 12/19/2019 9:31 PM

what is another difference is the fact that a person can gamble for weeks without being addicted to it, but after weeks of heroin everyone is addicted. that's why for me Gambling addiction is not an addiction

....Hahahahast du ne Ahnung...... Keine SUCHT, das ich nicht lachen.... With the krassssssseste of all diseases: GAME ADDICTION



you vog#el#

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Dbac79
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

21st Dec. 2019, at 09:15 am CET#7
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rosiking wrote on 12/21/2019 08:49 AM
....Hahah do you have any idea...... No SUGGESTION, don't make me laugh.... One of the most crasssssss of all diseases: GAME ADDICTION



you vog#el#

the most awesome of all carnal diseases is the one you have and that is the one that makes you anonymously on the net the mouth open, if you want to tell me something you have to stand in front of me otherwise I can absolutely not take you seriously

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Zwischenmeister
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

21st Dec. 2019, at 11:38 am CET#8
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I'll say this, as long as the junkie has enough H left to get through the day, he'll probably gamble away all his cash and when the balance is at zero, ask himself 'shit, how could I?'

But of course, he thought he'd win and have enough money for tomorrow's dose and an extra shot... Stupid, but quite realistic...

Addendum
Against a proper Gambling addiction most "hard" drugs are children's carnival. Seriously

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MarcT22186
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

21st Dec. 2019, at 12:04 pm CET#9
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 12/21/2019 at 11:38 am: I'll say this, as long as the junkie has enough H left to get through the day, he'll probably gamble away all his cash and when the balance is at zero, ask himself 'shit, how could I?'

But of course, he thought he'd win and have enough money for tomorrow's dose and an extra shot... Stupid, but quite realistic...

Addendum
Against a proper Gambling addiction most "hard" drugs are children's carnival. Seriously.

All a question of definition...
According to our law, almost everything that "pops" more than Earl Grey and doesn't have anything to do with nicotine or alcohol is hard, and you would definitely be right.
If one goes rather after scientific incorporation, probably rather not. The huge problem with gambling addiction is that it often occurs as a side effect of another addiction

This comparison of tails, about which addiction is worse or more harmful, doesn't help anyone either, since all serious types of addiction can be fatal.

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Zwischenmeister
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Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease !

21st Dec. 2019, at 12:29 pm CET#10
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MarcT22186 wrote on 12/21/2019 12:04 PM
It's all a matter of definition...
According to our law, almost everything that "pops" stronger than Earl Grey and does not have anything to do with nicotine or alcohol is hard, and you would definitely be right.
If one goes rather after scientific incorporation, probably rather not. The huge problem with Gambling addiction is that it often occurs as a side effect of another addiction

This comparison of tails, about which addiction is worse or more harmful, doesn't help anyone either, since all serious types of addiction can be fatal.

You're absolutely right, of course. Everything in my post refers to my, factually very subjective, experiences and views

Everyone reacts differently, or is more susceptible to this or that. Should not be said so sweepingly, as I did it above!

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