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Gambling addiction in general: Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

Topic created on 13th Jun. 2017 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 16 | Views: 4,658
Daniel
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Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

13th Jun. 2017, at 03:39 am CEST#1
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I really don't like to talk about this topic, because this could be an argumentation base for state gambling providers to ban the evil online gambling. And as we all know, Player protection in Germany is one of the most abysmal in the world. Because even if you are banned from casinos, you can still gamble away €1,000 a day (without any Risk-adequate chance of winning) in gaming arcades. Also in Hessen, where one can be locked in gaming houses, one can gamble still problem-free at gas stations, in pubs & CO. That only in the margin ...

... But now we are talking about player protection in online casinos. What is the benefit for gambling addicts to be effectively blocked in Online Casinos? You are then blocked in an online casino, but you can log on to another casino and continue to play happily. And any addicted gambler is very likely to do the same.

Actually, you could do without the blocking function altogether, couldn't you? What do you think?

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Anonym

Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

13th Jun. 2017, at 11:45 am CEST#2
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However, that is true. Unfortunately, the selection is far too high and far too easy to circumvent

Something like Player protection, there is online as well as offline unfortunately not really

In my opinion, there should be a center that manages the locks. Quasi, that if you want to be blocked, this must do about a 3 place and thus automatically for all casinos is blocked (at the request of the player of course) so that you would no longer have the opportunity to register elsewhere

Offline this or similar is unfortunately not possible. The topic of player protection is just theoretically and or possible in very small and rather ineffective measure

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S****8

Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

13th Jun. 2017, at 03:09 pm CEST#3
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So ...the problem is not with the non-existent Player protection but with everyone himself !
It is like smoking or other addictions ! The own will counts! Should everyone who plays the lottery, which is also a game of chance, be banned from all lottery venues ? Impossible ! The state earns from the addiction of its citizens no matter in which direction and will not give a damn to turn this off! A colleague of mine gambled away his entire salary of 4,600 € every month ! Family had nothing to eat and 3 children at the poverty line !
Neither therapy nor anything else helped! What did he do ? Cell phone, computer, laptop all destroyed ...moved out into the hinterland where there is no good network and no possibility to sit at vending machines and if he tries it he has good friends who give him in an emergency also times one in the face...if he is tempted! Family and he are overjoyed today ! And the debts by gambling he pays off in the next 20 years ! he has not gone into insolvency ! What really helps is a good environment, activities and friends ...who do not gamble! If you go to therapy and are among like-minded people, the relapse rate is worse than if you have really good friends who help you and take care of you!
But you also have to explain your situation to them!

Forget the whole thing with player protection etc...YOU must have it under control! Also times to stand again! Show strength and reason!

The wishful thinking of centrals with locks everywhere will never exist ! Because all earn from us !

Is unfortunately so !

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Anonym

Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

13th Jun. 2017, at 03:40 pm CEST#4
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i agree that self-responsibility is the best protection for gamblers. However, if you keep telling yourself I can't stop or I can't play responsibly because I'm a gambling addict, then you're already justifying yourself and you don't even believe in yourself. Who is supposed to believe in you if you don't even do it yourself?

Therefore, you should first check your own beliefs and change them. As I said, acting on your own responsibility is still the best way to protect yourself

The state, especially the German, has no interest in it and has in the 90s and early 00s even minors happily supplied with lottery tickets and sports betting and completely legal

I'll be brief here, but will make various publications on the subject elsewhere in the future

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Anonym

Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

13th Jun. 2017, at 04:20 pm CEST#5
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I'd rather not go into that. I will only say this much. Every person is different. Player protection should be expanded and improved. I'm glad that your friend has managed on his own. Therapies help others much better. You can't take him as a yardstick and say: everyone should see for themselves where he stays. Many people need help and can't do it on their own. No matter what kind of addiction it is. Therapies are also a form of player protection and have already kept 10000 end from losing everything hab and good. So now it was all very bad for the people, because they could not pull themselves together???

That of me was only a suggestion and yes of course it is wishful thinking. It would be one of 1000 possibilities

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Anonym

Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

13th Jun. 2017, at 04:48 pm CEST#6
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@Hammerdammer
Your suggestion is also good and you are absolutely right. Only the best way is to take over self-responsibility. This can also happen with therapy. The problem with central blocks for the legal providers is simply that the gambling addicts then just continue with illegal or gamble in any back rooms and are ripped off.

I am also in favor of a central solution, but not for blocking, but to set limits, similar to what you can do now with OCs, but so that the payment is made via a central authority that then controls whether the limit fits. But even with blocking options and limit setting, there are always opportunities for addicts to pretend to have a different identity or to use illegal services

Ultimately, the way is to bring yourself into the position to act self-responsibly and consciously. For this you can also take a therapy, why not. The most important thing is simply that you do not just gamble away but think about it beforehand and set limits!

To complain and say, but I am addicted is the easy way. To really get into the act, the harder but it is the way that brings you in the long run significantly more. There are many ways to create a framework that will help you play more responsibly. Locks and limits in OCs are an important part of it

That's why I don't really share Daniel's attitude when he says that it's not worth it anyway.

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Anonym

Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

13th Jun. 2017, at 09:16 pm CEST#7
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So I agree with you in any case. To complain and say: that has no sense anyway brings nothing. I know myself how hard it is not to play in the long run. It takes a lot of willpower. It is not enough to simply stop. It's like alcoholism. You remain addicted for life

I think that it definitely has to get better with player protection. As you said, limits and suspensions are a good start and important all times. The final solution just has to come. Unfortunately, there are always opportunities to gamble. As soon as someone wants to play, he does it. As you said. In some back room or somewhere else, but there are always ways and means

Both parties must be in agreement. That is, the player must want to stop or restrict it and the casino must be able to protect this player as soon as it degenerates

As things stand today, it will take decades before an adequate solution is seen

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Daniel
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Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

13th Jun. 2017, at 11:13 pm CEST#8
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Well, I personally wouldn't go to back rooms. I wouldn't even know where to find backrooms. I would also not gamble in Curacao casinos, where I know 99% that I would not get my money in a real big win and would have no chance to get my money through regulators.

Actually Malta is (in the offline area) the Player protection paradise. Once you get blocked in a casino and then you have no chance to gamble legally on the whole island. Slot machines in pubs & Co. do not exist.

If the online problem was still solved, then everything would be good (for me). For me, the current player protection (online) brings as good as nothing. Rather the opposite. We don't even need to start with Germany, which is a disaster anyway.

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Anonym

Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

14th Jun. 2017, at 09:41 am CEST#9
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What I am writing here now has only limited to do with it. I have also already set limits and let me lock. I personally think that brings something.
Have then read the page of casinoloser found the page really great, there was a lot of exaggerated from my point of view but it gave me to think properly, thanks to who has written this page. This page has opened my eyes, have never thought about it.

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Daniel
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Lock & set limits in online casinos: What's the point?

14th Jun. 2017, at 09:54 am CEST#10
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Casinoloser is a website I made together with TomWegas from the forum here. That was in the middle of 2015 when I made my record profits & record losses.

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