have thought longer whether I should write or not. I have a problem with gambling - definitely. First of all: I have never gambled so that I had debts or the like, but sometimes it feels like that when you get money from your parents for Christmas and then it's gone.
I'm 25 years old and starting my first full time job soon. I'll say 3-4 salaries and all the losses I've had so far in my life are thankfully back in. Nevertheless, I am incredibly angry - on the one hand at myself, on the other hand at the casinos.
I want to gamble, I want to bet - with discipline. How do I manage that? I don't. In sports betting, the weirdest events happen 1x in 100 years and I lost again. I like to bet basketball very much. Top stars, who have a lot of experience, make a technical mistake in the last second and the opposing team wins. Ball losses that you can't explain. Top teams lose big against the underdog. And so on and so forth, I'm sure you all know this.
The other day I gambled. 100€ eingezahtl, up to 180€, thought to myself whether I pay out. Hmm..we still play until the next bonus. The came at 130€, again on 170€ or so. Habs then let. Next day the same game. From 170€ to 120€, then bonus, brings 15€. (I played with 60 cents). So. Then I thought to myself "with the game (Mysterious) still a bonus then I let it be good for today". Lo and behold, 135€ long no bonus at 60 cents per spin. Then comes the bonus at 15€, and guess how much it brought. Right, 10€. Then so p**sed off, deposited again.
Summa Summarum I have deposited 1300€ and paid out 450€ in the last 3 weeks. That hurts - that really hurts as someone who is not yet working. Today I put 500€ in bets because I just didn't want to admit it. After a clear lead and the bet should have come, team breaks in, goes X out in the end. Were several bets. One point has been missing for my over bet.
And now again. What's my point? How can I have fun betting/gambling with discipline? I ALWAYS slip into a vortex and even if it works at first, eventually I just want to go all in and even though I know I've lost too much already, and I know it's a bad idea to Deposit again, I do it anyway. Sometimes it goes well and more often it goes bad. I've lost so much in my life and I'm lucky somewhere that I've never been badly off with money, it's always been within reason, but to lose hard earned money just hurts
I have also immediately after the lost bets today blocked - forever, once again, just another Provider
Am curious about your opinions and sorry for the long text.
And94 wrote on 01/27/2021 at 8:18 pm: Hello dear people,
I want to gambol, I want to bet - with discipline. How do I manage that? You don't.
And now again. What's my point? How can I have fun betting/gambling with discipline?
LG
And
You're already giving yourself the answer.
How does it work? You don't.
There are people who can bet and no red light goes on in their brain, and there are people who bet and the red light comes on.
And since you clearly belong to the latter, you can either be abstinent or suffer a total loss again and again.
Those who are susceptible to addiction are addicts. More pronounced in one than the other, but addicted. And that leads you to the abyss sooner or later.
You can't stop the addiction, though. You will never be able to play and have the same feeling and control as someone who is not addicted. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Some people drink a glass of red wine every now and then and wouldn't even think of getting drunk to the point of passing out. And others just want to have a drink and then lie on the side of the road somewhere at 5 o'clock in the morning with 3 per mille. And these are often not (yet) heavy drinkers, but at a certain level they no longer have any control over their drinking behavior.
Falke wrote on 27.01.2021 at 21:14
You already give yourself the answer.
How to do it? You don't.
There are people who can bet and no red light goes on in their brain, and there are people who bet and the red light comes on.
And since you clearly belong to the latter, you can either be abstinent or suffer a total loss again and again.
Those who are susceptible to addiction are addicts. More pronounced in one than the other, but addicted. And that leads you to the abyss sooner or later.
You can't stop the addiction, though. You will never be able to play and have the same feeling and control as someone who is not addicted. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Some people drink a glass of red wine every now and then and wouldn't even think of getting drunk to the point of passing out. And others just want to have a drink and then lie on the side of the road somewhere at 5 o'clock in the morning with 3 per mille. And these are often not (yet) heavy drinkers, but at a certain level they no longer have any control over their drinking behavior.
Thanks first of all for your answer. I absolutely understand what you mean, but I want to gambol - only with discipline. Are there any methods or the like how I can "learn" to only ever gamble my limit and then not escalate like that? I say so, 200 € a month, if I win from time to time, I can afford when I go to work. And even so I think my addiction would be satisfied
This total loss just hurts so much. And I want to prevent that. I want to gamble again for fun, not because I am frustrated because I lost. I can also live well with it if I lose my limit. Only then these shitty thoughts come into my head again where I say "try it once", and well, we know the end of the story.
Can only advise you stop rather immediately with it in the end you are always the loser
Yes some people can handle it and gamble as much as they want and it remains a hobby because everyone can assess for themselves what he is willing to use that is the same some zockt 2k in a month another only 500 € and still another spends 3k on model airplanes or just normal online games
And then there are the people who chase losses and the game is no longer a game and as soon as the machine controls you it is one step too many
Better now otherwise the danger is big to hear you in a few years here again only with the difference job gone debts in very high ranges etc...
Believe me you don't miss anything if you don't play I can give you a very good example right now
I have participated in a new casino at the beginning of the month in a competition and was almost over half the month place 1 with 5,000 € because as good as no one has participated now all storm the casino because it is suddenly listed on all pages and I am only on 600 € although I have kept me as I said very very long in 1st place
Now I could react in two ways
1) gamble without a plan because I want to get back to my place 1 at any price
2) gamble anyway when I feel like it and realize that there was someone who was luckier than me
I will take point 2 because everything else would be against everything that makes me me and I would sell everything including my soul because it would suddenly control me
What I want to say it will never be fair one gambles away 10k and gets nothing the other spins 1 € and wins 5k or just like in my case one is pushed off the pedestal at the last moment that's just the way it is you can mostly only react with the above mentioned possibilities
And just between us what else do you have if you take option 1 ?
Stay strong you will manage not to play anymore believe in yourself and do not make yourself smaller than you are I believe that you also have the strength to do it
Jesss711 wrote on 28.01.2021 at 04:57: Awesome, when I read here in the forum always what some Deposit so and then in what kind of period 😅🙈
I know it's a lot, but trust me, it's nothing compared to others. And just be glad that you never pay in so much and such comments you can save yourself mMn, because it brings nothing
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You probably need to find out why you are addicted. That's where you should start. Every attempt to stop will fail because of this open question
If you don't want to stop gambling completely despite all your problems, but don't want it to get out of control, there is still this option. First of all, you have to close your online banking, because with it you can make deposits at any time and gamble away much more financially than you would like. Then you are only left to Deposit with the Paysafe card and since you can now only deposit everywhere via your Paysafe account, you can have a monthly desired limit set up here via the support of My Paysafe per month. If this is reached, then you have to wait until the new month begins. So you would at least have some protection that you do not lose too much. You can also put a piece of paper every month and note your deposits + withdrawals all on it and then you also have a more accurate overview of your spending in the casino. I always do the latter. Also, play only on lowest stakes, then it is not quite so expensive and you can play longer with your budget
And94 wrote on 28/01/2021 at 14:05
I know it's a lot but believe me it's nothing compared to others. And just be glad that you never Deposit that much and you can save such comments mMn, because it's useless.
Have this month so far 9035 € paid in and 8930 € paid out. Now I can say that others pay in much more and lose much more, but that would be moronic. You always have to relate it to your own situation, if you get through the loss difficulties or it hurts you that you money, which for you is very much because you do not yet work, then it is not less bad.
You always tell yourself that it is not so bad, others are worse. And you still have enough money and then it really starts with the desperate acts. Stakes rise to unimagined heights and the Risk you take becomes more and more extreme. I also have these experiences and every gambler gets such experiences if he has no discipline to prevent it. You keep increasing, for some it is a very slow process and for some it is relatively fast. Often it is related to the amount of money you have and how you are positioned. If you have a lot of friends and activities, you are less likely to make risky bets than someone who has few other activities besides work and gambling.
In your case I can tell you that it is impossible to gamble safely, I am very sure that one is simply predisposed that way. You can train yourself to be disciplined and reduce the risk of gambling everything away, but not completely eliminate it. It is important that you keep the number of casinos in which you play clear, that is, a maximum of 2-3 casinos and in the best case even only one casino. And set limits that you consider reasonable, the limits should be slightly above what you plan to gamble. So you have a certain margin if it läut well.
Z. For example, if you want to gamble 200 €:
Deposit limit: 400 € per month and 100 € per week
Loss limit: 200 € per week
This gives you a little more flexibility, but it keeps you from total loss. As long as you only play at one casino. With two casinos you must then halve it accordingly or match.
The chance that it helps in the long run but is very small, in the long run you will solve the limit and gamble away more than you would like. This can also be the case only in 1-2 years, you trust yourself too much at the beginning. You are not even able to grasp what stupid actions you are capable of.
But now it is enough...
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have thought longer whether I should write or not. I have a problem with gambling - definitely. First of all: I have never gambled so that I had debts or the like, but sometimes it feels like that when you get money from your parents for Christmas and then it's gone.
I'm 25 years old and starting my first full time job soon. I'll say 3-4 salaries and all the losses I've had so far in my life are thankfully back in. Nevertheless, I am incredibly angry - on the one hand at myself, on the other hand at the casinos.
I want to gamble, I want to bet - with discipline. How do I manage that? I don't. In sports betting, the weirdest events happen 1x in 100 years and I lost again. I like to bet basketball very much. Top stars, who have a lot of experience, make a technical mistake in the last second and the opposing team wins. Ball losses that you can't explain. Top teams lose big against the underdog. And so on and so forth, I'm sure you all know this.
The other day I gambled. 100€ eingezahtl, up to 180€, thought to myself whether I pay out. Hmm..we still play until the next bonus. The came at 130€, again on 170€ or so. Habs then let. Next day the same game. From 170€ to 120€, then bonus, brings 15€. (I played with 60 cents). So. Then I thought to myself "with the game (Mysterious) still a bonus then I let it be good for today". Lo and behold, 135€ long no bonus at 60 cents per spin. Then comes the bonus at 15€, and guess how much it brought. Right, 10€. Then so p**sed off, deposited again.
Summa Summarum I have deposited 1300€ and paid out 450€ in the last 3 weeks. That hurts - that really hurts as someone who is not yet working. Today I put 500€ in bets because I just didn't want to admit it. After a clear lead and the bet should have come, team breaks in, goes X out in the end. Were several bets. One point has been missing for my over bet.
And now again. What's my point? How can I have fun betting/gambling with discipline? I ALWAYS slip into a vortex and even if it works at first, eventually I just want to go all in and even though I know I've lost too much already, and I know it's a bad idea to Deposit again, I do it anyway. Sometimes it goes well and more often it goes bad. I've lost so much in my life and I'm lucky somewhere that I've never been badly off with money, it's always been within reason, but to lose hard earned money just hurts
I have also immediately after the lost bets today blocked - forever, once again, just another Provider
Am curious about your opinions and sorry for the long text.
LG
And
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You're already giving yourself the answer.
How does it work? You don't.
There are people who can bet and no red light goes on in their brain, and there are people who bet and the red light comes on.
And since you clearly belong to the latter, you can either be abstinent or suffer a total loss again and again.
Those who are susceptible to addiction are addicts. More pronounced in one than the other, but addicted. And that leads you to the abyss sooner or later.
You can't stop the addiction, though. You will never be able to play and have the same feeling and control as someone who is not addicted. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Some people drink a glass of red wine every now and then and wouldn't even think of getting drunk to the point of passing out. And others just want to have a drink and then lie on the side of the road somewhere at 5 o'clock in the morning with 3 per mille. And these are often not (yet) heavy drinkers, but at a certain level they no longer have any control over their drinking behavior.
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Thanks first of all for your answer. I absolutely understand what you mean, but I want to gambol - only with discipline. Are there any methods or the like how I can "learn" to only ever gamble my limit and then not escalate like that? I say so, 200 € a month, if I win from time to time, I can afford when I go to work. And even so I think my addiction would be satisfied
This total loss just hurts so much. And I want to prevent that. I want to gamble again for fun, not because I am frustrated because I lost. I can also live well with it if I lose my limit. Only then these shitty thoughts come into my head again where I say "try it once", and well, we know the end of the story.
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Yes some people can handle it and gamble as much as they want and it remains a hobby because everyone can assess for themselves what he is willing to use that is the same some zockt 2k in a month another only 500 € and still another spends 3k on model airplanes or just normal online games
And then there are the people who chase losses and the game is no longer a game and as soon as the machine controls you it is one step too many
Better now otherwise the danger is big to hear you in a few years here again only with the difference job gone debts in very high ranges etc...
Believe me you don't miss anything if you don't play I can give you a very good example right now
I have participated in a new casino at the beginning of the month in a competition and was almost over half the month place 1 with 5,000 € because as good as no one has participated now all storm the casino because it is suddenly listed on all pages and I am only on 600 € although I have kept me as I said very very long in 1st place
Now I could react in two ways
1) gamble without a plan because I want to get back to my place 1 at any price
2) gamble anyway when I feel like it and realize that there was someone who was luckier than me
I will take point 2 because everything else would be against everything that makes me me and I would sell everything including my soul because it would suddenly control me
What I want to say it will never be fair one gambles away 10k and gets nothing the other spins 1 € and wins 5k or just like in my case one is pushed off the pedestal at the last moment that's just the way it is you can mostly only react with the above mentioned possibilities
And just between us what else do you have if you take option 1 ?
Stay strong you will manage not to play anymore believe in yourself and do not make yourself smaller than you are I believe that you also have the strength to do it
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If you don't want to stop gambling completely despite all your problems, but don't want it to get out of control, there is still this option. First of all, you have to close your online banking, because with it you can make deposits at any time and gamble away much more financially than you would like. Then you are only left to Deposit with the Paysafe card and since you can now only deposit everywhere via your Paysafe account, you can have a monthly desired limit set up here via the support of My Paysafe per month. If this is reached, then you have to wait until the new month begins. So you would at least have some protection that you do not lose too much. You can also put a piece of paper every month and note your deposits + withdrawals all on it and then you also have a more accurate overview of your spending in the casino. I always do the latter. Also, play only on lowest stakes, then it is not quite so expensive and you can play longer with your budget
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Have this month so far 9035 € paid in and 8930 € paid out. Now I can say that others pay in much more and lose much more, but that would be moronic. You always have to relate it to your own situation, if you get through the loss difficulties or it hurts you that you money, which for you is very much because you do not yet work, then it is not less bad.
You always tell yourself that it is not so bad, others are worse. And you still have enough money and then it really starts with the desperate acts. Stakes rise to unimagined heights and the Risk you take becomes more and more extreme. I also have these experiences and every gambler gets such experiences if he has no discipline to prevent it. You keep increasing, for some it is a very slow process and for some it is relatively fast. Often it is related to the amount of money you have and how you are positioned. If you have a lot of friends and activities, you are less likely to make risky bets than someone who has few other activities besides work and gambling.
In your case I can tell you that it is impossible to gamble safely, I am very sure that one is simply predisposed that way. You can train yourself to be disciplined and reduce the risk of gambling everything away, but not completely eliminate it. It is important that you keep the number of casinos in which you play clear, that is, a maximum of 2-3 casinos and in the best case even only one casino. And set limits that you consider reasonable, the limits should be slightly above what you plan to gamble. So you have a certain margin if it läut well.
Z. For example, if you want to gamble 200 €:
Deposit limit: 400 € per month and 100 € per week
Loss limit: 200 € per week
This gives you a little more flexibility, but it keeps you from total loss. As long as you only play at one casino. With two casinos you must then halve it accordingly or match.
The chance that it helps in the long run but is very small, in the long run you will solve the limit and gamble away more than you would like. This can also be the case only in 1-2 years, you trust yourself too much at the beginning. You are not even able to grasp what stupid actions you are capable of.
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