DanielGambler wrote on 18.01.2020 at 18:51
There are hardly any good pure MGA casinos left. They all have a UK and/or SWE license by now as well. But Genesis and Bethard, among others, have already banned players who call themselves gambling addicts from the entire group when they only had an MGA license (and not yet a UK one)
Because of the current UKGC conformity of some holdings and even platforms, there is the possibility to be banned company-wide if desired.
There are a few recent threads here that show that the data is present on the platform! but not automatically transferred for users under mga (Everymatrix for example handles it this way).
The future mga solution for SE deployment is mMn rather a bad joke.
Now we are talking on the same wavelength, because as soon as it comes to the fact that mga is the main licensor and no UKGC is in charge, the casinos are not much better than the Curaçao booths.
The mga is personally celebrated too much, without exception, everything that "helps" the player is basically grown on the "crap" of the GC
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MarcT22186 wrote on 18.01.2020 at 19:08
Because of the current UKGC conformity of some holdings and even platforms, there is the possibility to be blocked company-wide if desired.
This is not true. The serious providers with MGA license have already offered these possibilities before, only the unserious MGA licensees of L&L, Aspire Global and Everymatrix have allowed this. For example, at Bethard, 888, Genesis Casinos, as I said before the UK license was already different
That the licensees do not have to do it from the MGA I have never doubted. I would still avoid those who do not do it because that always allows conclusions about other things that do these casinos. The MGA is what concerns just very lobby controlled and that state authorities in Malta are susceptible to corruption has also shown the murder case in which L&L is involved
Nevertheless, Malta must adhere to EU law which makes the license in comparison to Curaçao significantly better. The Curaçao casinos often do not pay out and do not even have to allow players to set limits. The MGA casinos do. In the MGA casinos, the games must also be on external servers of the Provider, Curaçao casinos can also operate on their own servers, so Manipulation is of course in the Curaçao casinos door and gate open. In addition, the backers at Curaçao casinos are almost never known which also leads to the fact that these casinos often do not even pay out wins. In MGA casinos you get your money at least as long as you adhere to the terms and conditions.
In short, you can say Curaçao casinos are basically not regulated and supervised. The MGA are just subject to EU law which makes them definitely much better, but you can not trust MGA casinos blindly and should keep your eyes open as a player. As L&L, Aspire Global and Everymatrix show. I personally recommend to avoid casinos of these operators just like Curaçao casinos.
DanielGambler wrote on 01/18/2020 at 19:39
That is so not true. The serious providers with MGA license have already offered these possibilities before, only the unserious MGA licensees of L&L, Aspire Global and Everymatrix have allowed this. For example, Bethard, 888, Genesis Casinos, as I said before the UK license was already different
That the licensees do not have to do it from the MGA I have never doubted. I would still avoid those who do not do it because that always allows conclusions about other things that do these casinos. The MGA is what concerns just very lobby controlled and that state authorities in Malta are susceptible to corruption has also shown the murder case in which L&L is involved
Nevertheless, Malta must adhere to EU law which makes the license in comparison to Curaçao significantly better. The Curaçao casinos often do not pay out and do not even have to allow players to set limits. The MGA casinos do. In the MGA casinos, the games must also be on external servers of the Provider, Curaçao casinos can also operate on their own servers, so Manipulation is of course in the Curaçao casinos door and gate open. In addition, the backers at Curaçao casinos are almost never known which also leads to the fact that these casinos often do not even pay out wins. In MGA casinos you get your money at least as long as you adhere to the terms and conditions.
In short, you can say Curaçao casinos are basically not regulated and supervised. The MGA are just subject to EU law which makes them definitely much better, but you can not trust MGA casinos blindly and should keep your eyes open as a player. As L&L, Aspire Global and Everymatrix show. I personally recommend to avoid casinos of these operators just as Curaçao casinos.
Well, Curaçao must also adhere to EU laws in the economic framework after all they belong to the Kingdom of the Netherlands and are EU OCT member
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MarcT22186 wrote on 18.01.2020 at 19:56
Well, Curaçao must also comply with EU laws in the economic framework after all they are part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands and are EU OCT member.
As you can see Curaçao is autonomous, so it is not subject to EU laws like Malta (direct member country of the EU)
In addition, it should be noted at this point that the casinos with Curaçao "license" are simply sublicensees of companies that have received a gaming license on Curaçao and are not directly monitored and controlled by a regulatory authority
Personally I would prefer a casino without any license to a " Curaçao-Casino" because the casino without a license at least does not try to make me believe that it is regulated.
DanielGambler wrote on 18.01.2020 at 16:24
I find it unserious not to block a player for all casinos with the same license if you know that he is addicted to gambling and has already been blocked in another casino with the license. What exactly is there not to understand?
In addition, it seems to me that you are either an Affiliate for these casinos or even one here from GambleJoe who has simply created a secondary account. Is here since the start of the platform apparently unfortunately common to manipulate the readers. Also works with most. Funny that there are within a short time 2 thumbs up for the contribution. Bit too obvious everything
Who wants to play in the casinos should do it and who wants to do business with such people also. It's up to everyone.
When I asked at L&L there was at least the possibility to be blocked on several pages of the group. Since I don't play very actively myself, I can't attest to that 100% anymore. So it was but a few months ago so and that a change came to it would be new to me.
That you but 888, Genesis and Bethard in comparison as serious call only because of an immediate global lock I find something exaggerated. Genesis for example works slowly and offers reduced RTP versions without warning the players. But this is all ok as long as you are banned directly for all groups? I am in favor that all groups should offer a global group lock, much more that the MGA allows a kind of gamestop like UKGC to protect themselves directly with a lock. But for me that is not the deciding factor whether a casino is reputable or not. The entire process of payments is important to me personally, that you can set limits and everything runs smoothly that makes for me the whole serious.
That you sign up fresh and just write against a group while you seem to <seriösen>note here is just ridiculous to me. Your attitude towards Gamblejoe is also already so sophisticated that one could think you've been here longer, your username could be an allusion, ... but well you do not have two thumbs up and therefore you are certainly completely new here, case solved
Is it now fashionable to throw every double account, casino manger, casino worker, etc. at the head instead of arguing normally. I agree with you that a global lock should be offered and that one can criticize that. But I don't agree that 888 is better, many players say that they are serious and that can be true. But they just take a long time to pay out money. You can pretty much track which casinos and groups I like/don't like. Everyone sets their priorities differently and even though I don't like MT Secure, I'd like to use your way of thinking:
With Rizk from MT you can block withdrawals i.e. you can't cancel them anymore. With Genesis but already, is now Genesis bad and unseriös? But at Rizk there is no direct global block, so is Genesis good and Rizk bad? Don't you notice that one single factor is not enough?</seriösen>
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Where did I write that a single factor is sufficient
We all agree that it is serious to ban players license-wide and unserious not to do it, right?
This does not mean that a licensee who does not do it is generally bad. However, it is one indication of many
As far as the reduced RTP is concerned, this is unfortunately the last straw. However, one must also note that this is no different in German casinos. They can change the RTP from one second to the other on the machines. Every player must get into the habit of looking at the RTP before every game. After all, with most online slots you have this option, offline you do not. I personally find the secretly and quietly reduce the RTP to puke and do not play slots with reduced RTP. Therefore, casinos that reduce the RTP but not immediately unseriös. The reduced RTPs are mainly the consequence of regulation in the UK. Which also shows that the regulation there for EU players brings no advantages but rather disadvantages
Videoslots, for example, has reduced the RTPs for the entire market twice in a very short time. Therefore, Videoslots is not immediately unserious but I have decided for me because of this no longer play there. It can not be that players from Germany are asked to pay for increased costs in the UK market. As for other casinos, I always look at the RTP and if it is below a certain threshold I leave the game immediately.
But back to the actual topic L&L = unseriös! This has always been the case for me and will remain so. There is also the not license-wide lock even the smallest evil in this juice store. This also shows the massive involvement of the co-owner in the case Daphne Caruana Galizia. I despise such a thing to the depths! But again, even without that, L&L would be just bad compared to other market players. By the way, here at GambleJoe you see it similarly that the L&L casinos are bad, they were all widely rated bad. However, for me personally they are so bad that you should not even offer a platform.
P.S. By the way, my experience with Rizk speaks MT Secure others. Because I myself was blocked for all casinos under their license. Also for the whitelabels not operated by GIG itself.
DanielGambler wrote on 19.01.2020 at 17:53: Where did I write that a single factor is sufficient
We all agree that it is serious to ban players license-wide and unserious not to do it, right?
That doesn't mean that a licensee who doesn't do it is generally bad. However, it is one indication of many
As far as the reduced RTP is concerned, this is unfortunately the last straw. However, one must also note that this is no different in German casinos. They can change the RTP from one second to the other on the machines. Every player must get into the habit of looking at the RTP before each game. After all, with most online slots you have this option, offline you do not. I personally find the secretly and quietly reduce the RTP to puke and do not play slots with reduced RTP. Therefore, casinos that reduce the RTP but not immediately unseriös. The reduced RTPs are mainly the consequence of regulation in the UK. Which also shows that the regulation there for EU players brings no advantages but rather disadvantages
Videoslots, for example, has reduced the RTPs for the entire market twice in a very short time. Therefore, Videoslots is not immediately unserious but I have decided for me because of this no longer play there. It can not be that players from Germany are asked to pay for increased costs in the UK market. As for other casinos, I always look at the RTP and if it is below a certain threshold I leave the game immediately.
But back to the actual topic L&L = unseriös! This has always been the case for me and will remain so. There is also the not license-wide lock even the smallest evil in this juice store. This also shows the massive involvement of the co-owner in the case Daphne Caruana Galizia. I despise such a thing to the depths! But again, even without that, L&L would be just bad compared to other market players. By the way, here at GambleJoe you see it similarly that the L&L casinos are bad, they were all widely rated bad. However, for me personally they are so bad that you should not even offer a platform.
P.S. By the way, my experience with Rizk speaks MT Secure others. Because I myself was blocked for all casinos under their license. Also for the whitelabels not operated by GIG itself.
We agree anyway that a player who locks himself out due to Gambling addiction is not directly locked out of the casinos, is questionable. I will never understand that.
By the way, you're right, MT Secure seems to block all offers. For me it was not the case at the time, but I had not locked me out of gambling addiction whether that might have made a difference I do not know (but lock is long ago). Have the Gamblejoe article out now:
Warning about this casino!!!
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Because of the current UKGC conformity of some holdings and even platforms, there is the possibility to be banned company-wide if desired.
There are a few recent threads here that show that the data is present on the platform! but not automatically transferred for users under mga (Everymatrix for example handles it this way).
The future mga solution for SE deployment is mMn rather a bad joke.
Now we are talking on the same wavelength, because as soon as it comes to the fact that mga is the main licensor and no UKGC is in charge, the casinos are not much better than the Curaçao booths.
The mga is personally celebrated too much, without exception, everything that "helps" the player is basically grown on the "crap" of the GC
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This is not true. The serious providers with MGA license have already offered these possibilities before, only the unserious MGA licensees of L&L, Aspire Global and Everymatrix have allowed this. For example, at Bethard, 888, Genesis Casinos, as I said before the UK license was already different
That the licensees do not have to do it from the MGA I have never doubted. I would still avoid those who do not do it because that always allows conclusions about other things that do these casinos. The MGA is what concerns just very lobby controlled and that state authorities in Malta are susceptible to corruption has also shown the murder case in which L&L is involved
Nevertheless, Malta must adhere to EU law which makes the license in comparison to Curaçao significantly better. The Curaçao casinos often do not pay out and do not even have to allow players to set limits. The MGA casinos do. In the MGA casinos, the games must also be on external servers of the Provider, Curaçao casinos can also operate on their own servers, so Manipulation is of course in the Curaçao casinos door and gate open. In addition, the backers at Curaçao casinos are almost never known which also leads to the fact that these casinos often do not even pay out wins. In MGA casinos you get your money at least as long as you adhere to the terms and conditions.
In short, you can say Curaçao casinos are basically not regulated and supervised. The MGA are just subject to EU law which makes them definitely much better, but you can not trust MGA casinos blindly and should keep your eyes open as a player. As L&L, Aspire Global and Everymatrix show. I personally recommend to avoid casinos of these operators just like Curaçao casinos.
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Well, Curaçao must also adhere to EU laws in the economic framework after all they belong to the Kingdom of the Netherlands and are EU OCT member
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As you can see Curaçao is autonomous, so it is not subject to EU laws like Malta (direct member country of the EU)
In addition, it should be noted at this point that the casinos with Curaçao "license" are simply sublicensees of companies that have received a gaming license on Curaçao and are not directly monitored and controlled by a regulatory authority
Personally I would prefer a casino without any license to a " Curaçao-Casino" because the casino without a license at least does not try to make me believe that it is regulated.
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When I asked at L&L there was at least the possibility to be blocked on several pages of the group. Since I don't play very actively myself, I can't attest to that 100% anymore. So it was but a few months ago so and that a change came to it would be new to me.
That you but 888, Genesis and Bethard in comparison as serious call only because of an immediate global lock I find something exaggerated. Genesis for example works slowly and offers reduced RTP versions without warning the players. But this is all ok as long as you are banned directly for all groups? I am in favor that all groups should offer a global group lock, much more that the MGA allows a kind of gamestop like UKGC to protect themselves directly with a lock. But for me that is not the deciding factor whether a casino is reputable or not. The entire process of payments is important to me personally, that you can set limits and everything runs smoothly that makes for me the whole serious.
That you sign up fresh and just write against a group while you seem to <seriösen>note here is just ridiculous to me. Your attitude towards Gamblejoe is also already so sophisticated that one could think you've been here longer, your username could be an allusion, ... but well you do not have two thumbs up and therefore you are certainly completely new here, case solved
Is it now fashionable to throw every double account, casino manger, casino worker, etc. at the head instead of arguing normally. I agree with you that a global lock should be offered and that one can criticize that. But I don't agree that 888 is better, many players say that they are serious and that can be true. But they just take a long time to pay out money. You can pretty much track which casinos and groups I like/don't like. Everyone sets their priorities differently and even though I don't like MT Secure, I'd like to use your way of thinking:
With Rizk from MT you can block withdrawals i.e. you can't cancel them anymore. With Genesis but already, is now Genesis bad and unseriös? But at Rizk there is no direct global block, so is Genesis good and Rizk bad? Don't you notice that one single factor is not enough?</seriösen>
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We all agree that it is serious to ban players license-wide and unserious not to do it, right?
This does not mean that a licensee who does not do it is generally bad. However, it is one indication of many
As far as the reduced RTP is concerned, this is unfortunately the last straw. However, one must also note that this is no different in German casinos. They can change the RTP from one second to the other on the machines. Every player must get into the habit of looking at the RTP before every game. After all, with most online slots you have this option, offline you do not. I personally find the secretly and quietly reduce the RTP to puke and do not play slots with reduced RTP. Therefore, casinos that reduce the RTP but not immediately unseriös. The reduced RTPs are mainly the consequence of regulation in the UK. Which also shows that the regulation there for EU players brings no advantages but rather disadvantages
Videoslots, for example, has reduced the RTPs for the entire market twice in a very short time. Therefore, Videoslots is not immediately unserious but I have decided for me because of this no longer play there. It can not be that players from Germany are asked to pay for increased costs in the UK market. As for other casinos, I always look at the RTP and if it is below a certain threshold I leave the game immediately.
But back to the actual topic L&L = unseriös! This has always been the case for me and will remain so. There is also the not license-wide lock even the smallest evil in this juice store. This also shows the massive involvement of the co-owner in the case Daphne Caruana Galizia. I despise such a thing to the depths! But again, even without that, L&L would be just bad compared to other market players. By the way, here at GambleJoe you see it similarly that the L&L casinos are bad, they were all widely rated bad. However, for me personally they are so bad that you should not even offer a platform.
P.S. By the way, my experience with Rizk speaks MT Secure others. Because I myself was blocked for all casinos under their license. Also for the whitelabels not operated by GIG itself.
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We agree anyway that a player who locks himself out due to Gambling addiction is not directly locked out of the casinos, is questionable. I will never understand that.
By the way, you're right, MT Secure seems to block all offers. For me it was not the case at the time, but I had not locked me out of gambling addiction whether that might have made a difference I do not know (but lock is long ago). Have the Gamblejoe article out now:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/news/selbstsperre-in-online-casinos-und-auswirkungen/
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