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Feedback: Suggestions for improvement and forum extensions all in here (Page 125)

Topic created on 06th May. 2017 | Page: 125 of 127 | Answers: 1,261 | Views: 192,759
Deadspin
Amateur
Sometimes there are RTP fluctuations within a casino group. It would be cool if you had an overview of this and could also help to expand the information and keep it up to date.

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gamble1
Legend
frapi07 wrote on 04/13/2024 04:34 PM:

I can understand, but when we write about fairness, we must not only think about the condition, but also about the scoring.

Contributions - no matter how useful they are - are rewarded with 15 points. A comment is rewarded with 10 points. Up to 5 comments can be rewarded per day. That means you get 50 points in 2 minutes. So you have to do this for 13 days (+ the points for logging in) and you are already qualified for the lottery. This is certainly unfair to users who are more active here and/or help other users with problems and write half novels.

Here you could reduce the points awarded from 50 to 5 points/day (1 comment = 1 point). Even with 31 days you wouldn't get the number of points.

In addition, you could build in benefits as you rise in rank, e.g. you get more points for activity. At the moment, the rankings themselves have no added value, except that you get a title in your username.


I understand Falke's approach, but then again, where is the limit? Such a change could lead to even more members in the lottery who are not active at all and therefore have coins on inactive accounts


Such a balance update always carries the Risk of messing up the current system if you have not considered something properly

I would find the suggestion to add more things for the ranks really cool vill also something that doesn't bring any coin added value now but something you can see as a gimmick

There are thousands of possibilities what you can do there

At the very front what I would celebrate are still so skill games where you can play against other users whether for coins or just for fun is completely irrelevant but I personally would find such a menu item GJ Games cool

PS: I am currently working with my team on a card game for the app stores of IOS and Google theoretically you could also start a kind of Tournament for GJ members there when the development is finished haha (schedule overrun by 2 months)

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frapi07
Expert
gamble1 wrote on April 13th, 2024 at 3:15 pm:
I understand Falke's approach what he means but then again the question is where is the limit? Such a change could then lead to even more members in the lottery who are not active at all and thus have coins on inactive accounts


Such a balance update always carries the Risk of messing up the current system if you haven't thought about something properly

I would find the suggestion to add more things for the ranks really cool vill also something that doesn't bring any coin added value now but something you can see as a gimmick

There are thousands of possibilities what you can do there

At the very front what I would celebrate are still so skill games where you can play against other users whether for coins or just for fun is completely irrelevant but I personally would find such a menu item GJ Games cool

PS: I'm currently working with my team on a card game for the app stores of IOS and Google, theoretically you could also start a kind of Tournament for GJ members there once the development is finished haha (schedule overrun by 2 months)

Yes, but we all have a life. If you don't have time for a month (for whatever reason), then you have to qualify twice to be allowed to participate again. it's understandable that as a long-time user you're annoyed and demotivated. Perhaps a kind of "extra life" for experts and co. would be appropriate? You can't qualify once a year and still take part in the next lottery. This would change little about the current rules, but at the same time reward the more active ones. I mean, not all of us spend our vacation on a balcony. Those with children like to spend 3-4 weeks at a time somewhere without internet access. That's why I can understand Falke's criticism.


I also think that reducing the number of points for comments is a good idea so that not so many people who only write "congratulations" win. That could cause the problem of people posting stupid posts. As you say, there's a risk of upsetting the balance by changing the rules. The only solution I could think of would be to shorten and limit the points awarded for posts. 10 points in total per day for the posts (2 points per post). This would give you 15 points/day with posts/comments. That would be a maximum of 465 points/month.


In general, it might make sense to adjust the points. In the past there were not so many users.

Yes, some functions, e.g. "premium" avatars that you only unlock with the ranking. At the moment, they are of no use. I personally think that's a shame.

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gamble1
Legend

frapi07 wrote on April 13th, 2024 at 5:12 pm:
Yes, but we all have a life. If you don't have time for a month (for whatever reason), then you have to qualify twice to be allowed to participate again. it's understandable that as a long-time user you're annoyed and demotivated. Perhaps a kind of "extra life" for experts and co. would be appropriate? You can't qualify once a year and still take part in the next lottery. This would change little about the current rules, but at the same time reward the more active ones. I mean, not all of us spend our vacation on a balcony. Those with children like to spend 3-4 weeks at a time somewhere without internet access. That's why I can understand Falke's criticism.


I also think it's a good idea to reduce the number of points for comments so that not so many people who only write "congratulations" win. That could cause the problem of people posting stupid posts. As you say, there's a Risk of upsetting the balance by changing the rules. The only solution I could think of would be to shorten and limit the points awarded for posts. 10 points in total per day for the posts (2 points per post). This would give you 15 points/day with posts/comments. That would be a maximum of 465 points/month.


In general, it might make sense to adjust the points. In the past there were not so many users.

Yes, some functions, e.g. "premium" avatars that you only unlock with the ranking. At the moment, they are of no use. I personally think that's a shame.

Well, but if you reduce the points, it's problematic again because then people who don't write comments would also have to contribute a lot, which would then reduce the quality


I'm on here almost every day but I still don't participate in much at all and actually get the points together easily and because you can do it so easily I think GJ will change nothing there

The topic with the undeserving participants we have often had without result because there is simply no way to separate people who make good contributions and people who write good comments and moochers

Somehow people will always slip through who write bullshit or participate 0 you can only stop that if you stop the whole lottery

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frapi07
Expert

gamble1 wrote on 14.04.2024 at 00:36:

Well but if you reduce the points it's problematic again because then people who don't write commis would have to contribute a lot there which then lowers the quality


I'm on here almost every day but I still don't participate in much at all and actually get the points together easily and because you can do it so easily I think GJ will change nothing there

The topic with the undeserving participants we have often had without result because there is simply no way to separate people who make good contributions and people who write good comments and moochers

Somehow people will always slip through who write nonsense or participate 0 and you can only stop that if you stop the whole lottery

You're right again, but I wonder what the purpose of a forum is. In my opinion, the main purpose of a forum is to discuss various topics. You don't necessarily have to write about gambling here. There are threads about food, the chat and gripe corner etc. Of course, the majority of topics/threads are related to gambling, but that doesn't mean anything.

Yes, it's difficult to differentiate between active/inactive users because GJ explicitly writes that the lottery is not intended to be a reward, but a gift. Sometimes others are given gifts, sometimes you are given gifts yourself.

As long as this is permitted by GJ, I have no objection to it, but if we are talking about fairness, then unfortunately we also have to include this issue, because this is where most users feel that it is most unfair.


If you ask me, such an adjustment (abolishing the 2-month period) is of little use if the main argument is supposed to be "fairness" and instead a lot of unfairness continues to be practiced elsewhere. This does not mean that I am against Falke's proposal. Quite the opposite - I'm in favor of it, as I also argue that we all have a life away from GJ and don't always have the time to log in here. My argument is rather that this problem is actually the smallest - in terms of fairness.

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Falke
Expert
gamble1 wrote on 14.04.2024 at 00:36:

Well but if you reduce the points it's problematic again because then people who don't write commis would have to contribute a lot there which then lowers the quality


I'm on here almost every day but I still don't participate in much at all and actually get the points together easily and because you can do it so easily I think GJ will change nothing there

The topic with the undeserving participants we have often had without result because there is simply no way to separate people who make good contributions and people who write good comments and moochers

Somehow people will always slip through who write nonsense or participate 0 you can only stop that if you stop the whole lottery

Well, you make it all out to be so difficult as if it were a science. Simply exclude active users from the 2-month rule. You could, for example, activate it for all users who have been registered for a year. Or who have already completed the points 12 times in total or something like that.

This would in any case include the users who were/are already very active here and exclude all newcomers. Voila and fairness is established and the competition is abused.

In any case, I now have to spend another 2 months hitting the keys before I can take part in the competition again, even though I already have over 1,500 posts here and, as everyone of you knows, never write because of the points. Some of my posts are half the length of an essay, in which I try to explain my point of view in detail or give as detailed an answer as possible to a question. And then in the next lottery, all those who have managed to write congratulations for two months are there again. I just don't see the point.

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MisterL
Expert
you can also introduce at least 20 characters, since only 1% of the comments are really interesting, if at all

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roccoammo11
Expert

Falke wrote on 14.04.2024 at 01:02:
Well, you're making it all out to be as difficult as if it were a science. Simply exempt active users here from the 2-month rule. You could, for example, activate it for all users who have been registered for a year. Or who have already completed the points 12 times in total or something like that.

This would in any case include the users who were/are already very active here and exclude all newcomers. Voila, fairness and abuse of the competition is established.

In any case, I now have to spend another 2 months hitting the keys before I can take part in the competition again, even though I already have over 1,500 posts here and, as everyone of you knows, never write because of the points. Some of my posts are half the length of an essay, in which I try to explain my point of view in detail or give as detailed an answer as possible to a question. And then in the next lottery, all those who have managed to write congratulations for two months are there again. I just don't see the point.

Have you ever thought about the fact that there doesn't have to be a lottery and that this campaign might come to an end? then hopefully you'll still write in here about what you don't like, right? GJ has already thought about why you have to get your points for 2 months in a row and in the end you probably wouldn't have had any luck this month.excitement for nothing and next month you'll be back again & the topic is forgotten Don't feel attacked again dear Falke. I really enjoy reading your posts now and I'm used to you often having something to complain about if I win I'll gladly share with you!!!

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Falke
Expert
roccoammo11 wrote on 14/04/2024 09:44:

Have you ever thought about the fact that there wouldn't even have to be a lottery and that this campaign might be over? then hopefully you'll still write in here what you don't like at all, right? GJ has already thought of why you have to get your points for 2 months in a row and in the end you probably wouldn't have had any luck this month.excitement for nothing and next month you'll be back & the topic is forgotten don't feel attacked again dear falcon. I really enjoy reading your posts now and I'm used to you often having something to complain about if I win I'll gladly share with you!!!

I'm not mad at you at all, but I figured that sooner or later there would be a comment along these lines. Yes, the lottery wouldn't have to exist. But it does exist. And yes, I would write here exactly the same way even without the lottery. And that's exactly my point.


I don't really care whether I win or not. It's all about the fact that some users contribute a lot here and keep the whole forum alive, while others only do the bare minimum to get the points.

I and probably all the other active users here in the forum would post just as much even without a lottery, while the congratulatory faction would be gone immediately. Who is more important for the forum? And that's exactly why I don't see the point of being active here for years and then having to wait another 2 months. As Frapi says, we all have our own lives and most of us aren't active here because of the points. Then it can happen that you don't get the points together in a month and then you have to wait another 2 months, while those who are only here for the lottery briefly dust off the points and otherwise contribute nothing at all.

I understand the point behind it. GJ wants the users to write as much as possible here, but completely ignores the fact that the regular users are not here for the points anyway. But they are punished when they are on vacation, want to take a break from gambling or something similar. I also don't want to feel compelled to write here every month.

Theoretically, it could happen that I participate in the forum for 1 year and don't enter the lottery once because I don't quite reach the points every 2nd month. In that case, I would have contributed to the forum in the same way, but I wouldn't have entered it once. Yes, I know, this is a very fictitious example, but it illustrates the weaknesses of the system when it comes to being fair to regular users.

This post alone already contains more words than the congratulations gang needs in a month to collect the points each month. I think it's clear what I'm getting at.

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MisterL
Expert
but to show power you need members to be taken seriously by the casinos in order to be able to exert pressure

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