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Feedback: Suggestions for improvement and forum extensions all in here (Page 120)

Topic created on 06th May. 2017 | Page: 120 of 131 | Answers: 1,305 | Views: 220,502
R3hab
Elite
Creating it is no effort.
Giving users writing rights can certainly be an extra effort of a few minutes, depending on how it works and which users will use it, but after that you don't have to worry about it as an admin or only a little.

I think it has only positive aspects and those who don't have a game problem or don't feel like it can safely ignore it like I do with the pictures or certain posts

Frapi that is not comparable

Not everyone is addicted to gambling not everyone wants to undergo therapy or take the first step, believe me many don't want to
So there won't be masses of requests fluttering in for the GJ area
But a few might use it
So this is something completely different

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Stromberg
Legend

frapi07 wrote on 20.01.2024 09:54:

I don't work for GJ, never claimed that my answers are true. It's just my opinion and assessment. It causes no effort? Well, maybe with 50 users. Look how many users GJ has. 44.000€ "registered - an estimated 500 active.

It's exactly these kinds of activities that look "small" but pile up. The admins also have other tasks - even outside the forum. Administrative activities etc. As I said, 2 admins less, i.e. at least 60 hours/week less and it is precisely these small tasks that come too small in such a situation.

As an example, I can tell you about a similar situation that I experienced. I worked in a small company. Suddenly an office clerk left due to pregnancy. What happened? Did the boss get a replacement? Nope. The 40-hour worker had to be replaced by the other 2 in the office. They can't split themselves into 4. So work got stuck. Who was then allowed to make up the work for an entire year? I was allowed to do it ^^ It was a job that took you 3 minutes a day. I sat on it for a week.

In the end you have to do justice to everyone, if GJ has more work it has to pay off economically, no question.


However, I would also say that threads that are only visible to logged-in members are no effort. Gimmicks such as the thread may not be seen by all members, which is of course nonsense, I agree. Then write privately.

Whether it really has a great benefit that non-members can't read along, everyone has to know for themselves. On the one hand, you are anonymous, but on the other hand, you might reveal more details about yourself in such a thread, where you might otherwise be worried that people interested in gambling from your circle of acquaintances might draw conclusions about you... 🤔 But they could also be members with any name if they know the site anyway....
I think you could introduce such an area without much effort and see if it is popular. Of course, it should only be for topics such as gambling addiction.

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frapi07
Elite

Peter8 wrote on 20.01.2024 at 10:20: Creating it is no effort.
Giving users writing rights can certainly be an extra effort of a few minutes depending on how it works which users will use it but after that you don't have to worry about it as an admin or only a little.

I think it has only positive aspects and those who don't have a game problem or don't feel like it can safely ignore it like I do with the pictures or certain posts

Frapi that is not comparable

Not everyone is addicted to gambling not everyone wants to undergo therapy or take the first step, believe me many don't want to
So there won't be masses of requests fluttering in for the GJ area
But a few might use it
So that's something completely different

I never wrote that the effort was to create the threads. I meant maintaining it, giving users read and write permission etc. As I understood it, the suggestion was not meant for all users, but only a small circle. Maybe I just misunderstood you and by private area you meant only for us registered users and not just frapi07 and Peter8.


Stromberg wrote on 20.01.2024 at 10:27 am:

In the end you have to do justice to everyone, if GJ has more work it has to pay off economically in a positive way, no question.


However, I would also say that threads that are only visible to logged-in members are no effort. Gimmicks such as the thread may not be seen by all members, which is of course nonsense, I agree. Then write privately.

Whether it really has a great benefit that non-members can't read along, everyone has to know for themselves. On the one hand, you are anonymous, but on the other hand, you might reveal more details about yourself in such a thread, where you might otherwise be worried that people interested in gambling from your circle of acquaintances might draw conclusions about you... 🤔 But they could also be members with any name if they know the site anyway....
I think you could introduce such an area without much effort and see if it is popular. Of course, it should only be for topics such as gambling addiction.

Yes, I can only agree with the first sentence. The admins read the suggestions and then decide whether to do it or not. I'm not the decision maker or anything^^ I just wanted to give my assessment and opinion.

I had understood it differently, but that it would only be visible to registered users, I would find even better. My assessment was due to the fact that I had understood it more as a "private lounge" between 2-5 users.

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R3hab
Elite
Guys honestly was not a good idea from me GJ has the categories and the topics the consultants are also there to help.
Makes the best sense as it is
maybe you don't need such a section but well, it was very good the second I had the idea😅

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gamble1
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Falke wrote on 20.01.2024 at 01:36:

There is no social aspect to GJ that has nothing to do with gambling. Then the winning pictures would just be hidden, while you read all kinds of things about slots, casinos, wins and losses in the forum. The whole forum is simply a trigger, viewed neutrally.



You will laugh, but many people look at such pictures and videos to satisfy their addiction



frapi07 wrote on 20.01.2024 at 08:44:
To suggestion one: You could enable group chats in Communicator. You should just be able to read who the message is from before the message - e.g. frapi07 writes: Hello

You can always write to any consultant via PN. I don't see any need to create private threads or anything like that. As I said, it would take too much organizational effort and especially now that GJ has 2 admins less, it is rather difficult.

Suggestion 2: You could hide them, but let's be honest... does it do any good? I only ask because winning pictures/videos trigger me zero. As I said, GJ would lose traffic there too - that's what they live from and as I said I don't know if it would help. GJ should not be a safe place for gambling addicts, but an exchange forum. Otherwise you could also hide the forum, because you can also be triggered there (sports betting thread, how is the XXX thread going etc.) makes little sense in my eyes and doesn't solve the problem.

Where would GJ lose traffic? Everyone can see the pictures but only those who have logged in and specifically activate this feature would no longer see them

I think the few people are manageable and I also think it would be a great added value because you show the outside world "Yes, gambling is our job, we talk about it but we are aware of the dangers of it and try to make it easier for people to leave"

Admittedly, the benefit can also be extremely small, but the dear counter would certainly have such a function ready in less than 1 working day because, apart from the group chat function, it doesn't take much effort to insert a point in the profile and there is a link between activating it and, for example, a pixelated menu for pictures and videos

Theoretically, you could even deactivate individual words or threads for such people, you would only have to create a variable that tells the system that user XYZ (in this case everyone with an activated menu item) is not allowed to access it or it will be pixelated or hidden for them

Maybe there is already such a function here because I can well imagine GUTS already has integrated menu items that can only be seen with the Admin status, be it editing functions for images or anything else, you would only have to expand and assign new ranks to the system so that the people who are assigned this rank get a lite version through the button

To be more specific you would need to know how GJ's system is set up and what they work with but either way there are much more complex functions than that

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Falke
Expert

gamble1 wrote on 20.01.2024 at 15:22:

You will laugh but many people look at such pictures and videos for addictive satisfaction


I'm not laughing about it. My point was that the forum is just as addictive as the pictures. There is no difference.

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gamble1
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Falke wrote on 20.01.2024 at 16:29:


I'm not laughing at this. My point was that the forum is just as addictive as the pictures. There is no difference.

Of course I agree with you

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R3hab
Elite
Unfortunately, this is also hard to see,
i've also posted viedos from the spielo from time to time
And they have already had good clicks and that was in 2010 xD if you look at the clicks today you really think what's going wrong so many people are getting into it.
Once you are in such a buble
It's also over hard until you're back 2 reality and get out again

New idea who if maybe a new category in the topic Gambling addiction where we could do something like anonymous players group? Something along those lines where you talk about stuff but it's protected and not everyone can post or read it
I think that would be fun and certainly helpful😁

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frapi07
Elite
gamble1 wrote on 20.01.2024 at 15:22:
Where would GJ lose traffic? Everyone can see the pictures but only for those who have logged in and specifically activate this feature would no longer see them

I don't know the numbers, so I was just speaking in general terms. I would rather estimate that GJ generates more traffic through the forum than from the pictures/videos.

gamble1 wrote on 20.01.2024 at 15:22:
I think the few people are manageable and I also think it would be a great added value because you show to the outside world "Yes gambling is our job we talk about it but are aware of the dangers of it and try everything to make it easier for quitters"

Yes, you're right about that. But I'm still a little skeptical, because you can add these functions here, but they don't do much in themselves, because you don't have a filter everywhere in life, you know? YouTube doesn't have a filter where I can exclude certain topics either. You can block channels, the algorithm will no longer suggest such videos at some point, but if you enter "gaming library" in the input field, you will still be able to see videos. GJ is a gambling forum, if you are triggered by it or want to keep your distance, then you shouldn't register in GJ or access it in general. At least that's how I see it.

GJ is a public exchange forum, i.e. you don't even have to be registered to read posts. What about people who are not registered? As I said, I understand the idea behind it and I think it's good in principle, but in my opinion it wouldn't do much good. It sounds like paternalism to me. GJ is already doing something in general and is not keeping the problem quiet: there is an explicit block in the help menu. There are also registered support staff who can be contacted at any time.

gamble1 wrote on 20.01.2024 at 15:22:
Admittedly, the benefit can also be extremely small, but the dear counter would certainly have such a function ready in less than 1 working day because, apart from the group chat function, it is not much effort to insert a point in the profile and there is a link between pressing it and, for example, a pixelated menu for pictures and videos

Theoretically, you could even deactivate individual words or threads for such people, you would only have to create a variable that tells the system that user XYZ (in this case everyone with an activated menu item) is not allowed to access it or it will be pixelated or hidden for them

The effort I mentioned was not related to the programming and implementation of the functions in the forum, but the maintenance of these functions.


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gamble1
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frapi07 wrote on 21.01.2024 at 12:25:
The effort I was referring to was not about programming and implementing the features into the forum, but maintaining them.



Yes, that's right

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