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5th Apr. 2024, at 08:33 pm CEST#31
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gamble1 wrote on 05.04.2024 at 18:55:
I also think as you say many come across this "No so it's not censorship" I mean where are we going if everything is arbitrarily censored ? North Korea? Berlin Wall 2.0 only for the internet ? They should keep their feet on the ground here it's all about gambling and because this topic is kept so simple many don't understand why it's censored here like in other countries where the only reason is to keep the people down because the government is afraid the wrong information could lead to an uprising when people see what freedom other countries have
And then there's the point because many people ask themselves if there's already censorship on such a small issue and no resistance, what will be censored next? Is it the way of life in a few years? We all know what usually happens when everything is simply accepted
The only important thing for me in my criticism is to make it clear that I don't agree with it, but I don't blame GJ for that - everyone would comply, nobody wants to bear the Risk alone
Where will we end up? China The bad thing is that the Chinese are doing this censorship for propaganda. It's all about money xD
I can't say what it will look like in a few years. Only that I don't approve of the current development.
Criticism is always important if it's objective. GJ is not to blame for this situation, I think we can all agree on that. They are just victims of the German justice system. You also wrote the right thing: GJ is liable, not us.
Blubbo33 wrote on 05.04.2024 at 19:12: That's exactly the point, where does it start and where does it end?
I wrote at the beginning that it is not in gamblejoes power but the government is causing this disaster !
I realize that gamblejoe didn't want that, but as a user here already wrote about gamblejoe not going broke from it?
I see it a little differently, there have already been enough financial losses due to the regulations and as you can see this is continuing.
We can only hope that gamblejoe is working on a survival strategy, because the time when casinos were springing up like mushrooms within the white list is over!
I am and will remain a fan of gamblejoe even if I criticize them, and would stick with them even in bad times!
Let's hope for another government that reinvents the wheel when it comes to gambling!
Hope that wasn't too political!
It is also logical that these measures entail financial losses. Instead of going forwards, we are going backwards.
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5th Apr. 2024, at 11:36 pm CEST#34
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So I don't think GJ will lose out as a result
First of all, there are good sponsors now and the international market is still there, GJ is one of the best known brands
I don't think it's censorship either, that's a harsh term
It is regulation that is being implemented
In comparison, you may have a higher rtp in Malta/ Curacao casinos, but fewer opportunities to protect yourself
With the popularity of GJ, there are certainly some newcomers here every day who are steered in exactly the wrong direction by no dep, who doesn't check that and sees it as censorship
Simply sees it the wrong way
I have to ask again... But you can still post international offers in the nodeposit thread in the forum? Just not in the bonus section, where the offers were posted in the style of advertising with banners etc.?
However, the scenario of GJ earning less and less from registrations is a given. Normal players who only want to create one account will only be able to register once. I don't know what the modalities are, i.e. when does GJ get paid? Is a simple registration sufficient or does a player first have to verify and Deposit in order to receive remuneration?
There will probably only be a few new casinos. The attractiveness of German casinos for players could also suffer. This means that hardly any people will sign up due to the regulations. It is not for nothing that there are many negative voices about German casinos. I also think it is conceivable that GJ will withdraw completely from the German market when they realize that the whole thing is no longer profitable
Stromberg wrote on 05.04.2024 at 23:43: I have to ask again... But you can still post international offers in the nodeposit thread in the forum? Just not in the bonus section, where the offers were posted in the style of advertising with banners etc.?
I think players from DE can or may continue to post things in the "bonus section" that we ourselves of course do not, never, under no circumstances use😇.
However, this bonus would not be displayed afterwards as long as you are in Germany.
In the no-dep thread, on the other hand, freedom of opinion counts, as long as nothing violates the GJ forum rules, it's allowed in there too
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6th Apr. 2024, at 12:04 am CEST#38
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R3hab wrote on 05.04.2024 at 23:36: So I don't think GJ will lose out as a result
First of all, there are now good sponsors and the international market is still there, GJ is one of the best known brands
I don't think it's censorship either, that's a harsh term
It is regulation that is being implemented
In comparison, you may have a higher rtp in Malta/ Curacao casinos, but fewer opportunities to protect yourself
With the popularity of GJ, there are certainly some newcomers here every day who are steered in exactly the wrong direction by no dep, who doesn't check that and sees it as censorship
Simply sees it the wrong way
Sorry, but I can't agree with you for several reasons
1) Except for Oasis you have 100% the same possibilities to protect yourself in Malta or almost in the rest of the world but Oasis is also criticized by the fewest players who have a problem with the implementation of the license but much more the outrageous taxation and the associated low chances of winning (if you can speak of it at all) and of course this ridiculous 5 second rule that nobody needs because if it is already clear how much I can lose per month, the state can't really care how I lose this amount
So why do they care? Is it because the chances of winning can be controlled to a maximum of €1? Do they really not want to allow any private gambling at all, but rather see people in the state casino (where, by the way, there is only Oasis and no limit beyond that and no 5 second rule) ? Or do you really believe the fairy tale about the increased Risk of addiction yourself? Conversely, a good 99% of the world would have to have an extreme gambling problem as this only exists here!
2) Of course it is censorship because they know exactly that the international offer is a Lambo and their DE offer is a bicycle without air in the tires and a bent handlebar and because they know how dangerous this offer of their regulation is and they cannot control it because they know exactly what kind of shit they have thrown on the market, they do everything possible so that the international offer does not reach the people and lo and behold we have censorship because a different view is suppressed because it could be dangerous for you
Weed was also illegal until recently, but I could still find out about it on the internet, so who gives them the right to decide what I can and can't watch?
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6th Apr. 2024, at 12:35 am CEST#39
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R3hab wrote on 05.04.2024 at 23:36: So I don't think GJ will lose out as a result
First of all, there are now good sponsors and the international market is still there, GJ is one of the best known brands
I don't think it's censorship either, that's a harsh term
It is regulation that is being implemented
In comparison, you may have a higher rtp in Malta/Curacao casinos, but fewer opportunities to protect yourself
With the popularity of GJ, there are certainly some newcomers here every day who are steered in exactly the wrong direction by no dep, who doesn't check that and sees it as censorship
Simply sees it the wrong way
Did you really write that GJ is one of the best known brands internationally?
Honestly... how many international people do you see here? How do you even get that? GJ has its focus in the DACH region.
On the other hand: do you know what sponsors even do? They finance projects and want advertising in return. Tipico is the sponsor of the Bundesliga/2nd Bundesliga. Their presence is correspondingly large. I've never seen an OC being advertised here in a really awesome way. The only way GJ is financed is through the ref links, nothing more. The number of OCs or "online game libraries" is not as awesome now as it was 2 years ago. Even if a sponsor were to be found now, only a few would want to sponsor it (like CrazyBuzzer did last year, for example). Nothing more and this 5k is nothing. How many other campaigns can you find? You can count them with one hand.
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6th Apr. 2024, at 01:00 am CEST#40
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gamble1 wrote on 06.04.2024 at 00:04:
Sorry but I can't agree with you for several reasons
1) Except for Oasis you have 100% the same possibilities to protect yourself in Malta or almost in the rest of the world but Oasis is also criticized by the fewest players who have a problem with the implementation of the license but much more the outrageous taxation and the associated low chances of winning (if you can speak of it at all) and of course this ridiculous 5 second rule that nobody needs because if it is already clear how much I am allowed to lose per month, the state can actually not really care how I lose this amount
So why do they care? Is it because the chances of winning can be controlled to a maximum of €1? Do they really not want to allow any private gambling at all, but rather see people in the state casino (where, by the way, there is only Oasis and no limit beyond that and no 5-second rule) ? Or do you really believe the fairy tale about the increased Risk of addiction yourself? Conversely, a good 99% of the world would have to have an extreme gambling problem as this only exists here!
2) Of course it is censorship because they know exactly that the international offer is a Lambo and their DE offer is a bicycle without air in the tires and a bent handlebar and because they know how dangerous this offer of their regulation is and they cannot control it because they know exactly what kind of shit they have thrown on the market, they do everything possible so that the international offer does not reach the people and lo and behold we have censorship because a different view is suppressed because it could be dangerous for you
Weed was also illegal until recently, but I could still find out about it on the internet, so who gives them the right to decide what I can and can't watch?
I can only imagine the difference between online and offline because they want to keep the casinos attractive and don't want to lose their players
That's why it's officially called an online casino and not a real casino in that sense
As a longtime player, you know exactly what problems there were, so I still know that
today, things seem to be going much better with the casinos
We have different views on censorship, maybe you're right and this is the beginning and it's getting worse and the end is near
Who knows
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6th Apr. 2024, at 01:14 am CEST#41
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frapi07 wrote on 06.04.2024 00:35:
Did you really write that GJ is one of the best known brands internationally?
Honestly... how many international people do you see here? How do you even get that? GJ has its focus in the DACH region.
On the other hand: do you know what sponsors even do? They finance projects and want advertising in return. Tipico is the sponsor of the Bundesliga/2nd Bundesliga. Their presence is correspondingly large. I've never seen an OC being advertised here in a really awesome way. The only way GJ is financed is through the ref links, nothing more. The number of OCs or "online game libraries" is not as awesome now as it was 2 years ago. Even if a sponsor were to be found now, only a few would want to sponsor it (like CrazyBuzzer did last year, for example). Nothing more and this 5k is nothing. How many other campaigns can you find? You can count them with one hand.
The no dep section of the website certainly has by far the most traffic and that certainly doesn't come from DACH alone, just because the forum is geared towards the region doesn't mean that others don't use the website
Then they are not sponsors in the conventional sense, but they are certainly partners who are happy to support you
I would say
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6th Apr. 2024, at 02:45 am CEST#42
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R3hab wrote on 06.04.2024 at 01:14:
The no dep section of the website certainly has by far the most traffic and that certainly doesn't come from DACH alone, just because the forum is geared towards the region doesn't mean that others don't use the website
Then they are not sponsors in the conventional sense, but they are certainly partners who are happy to support you
I would say so
I can't give any information on this because I don't have the necessary data. I haven't visited the section at all, so I can't give a personal opinion. However, I personally doubt that there are many users who do not speak German and are/were active there.
The traffic certainly doesn't only come from users from the DACH region, that's clear, but I can't say how many users there are. I suspect that the number of these users is significantly lower than the German-speaking users. Accordingly, the traffic from DACH users will be much higher than the others.
I suspect that GJ is hardly known internationally. There are many reasons for this. Hardly any international users represented, no great collaborations with international companies (as we have in the Advent calendar, for example - which is sponsored by a German company) and there are other indications, but that would unnecessarily prolong my post.
Yes, sponsors/partners - call them what you will, but how many of them actively support GJ? GJ's main sources of revenue are a) ref links (where it splits with the OCs/game stores) and traffic. I'm sure there are other revenue streams, but I suspect these two bring in the most.
Do you have any idea how many "illegal" casinos were listed and how many "online casinos" are currently listed? Furthermore, I suspect that most users come from the DACH area and it is here that GJ is losing a lot of money that they would have actually made with the ref links.
In any case, it is wrong to claim that GJ is well known internationally or that they have many sponsors/supporters.
R3hab wrote on 06.04.2024 at 01:00:
I can only imagine that with the differences between online and offline because they want to keep the casinos attractive and don't want to lose their players
Why it is officially called an online casino and not a real casino in that sense
As a longtime player, you know exactly what problems there were, so I still know that
today, things seem to be going much better with the casinos
We have different views on censorship, maybe you're right and this is the beginning and it's getting worse and the end is near
Who knows
Well how many DE casinos are bitching here as well? The GGL doesn't care about that which shows even more the priorities of cashing in but it should be the players who are protected or not ? So why does nobody care ? Why can every casino decide what they are allowed to do and what not ?
One Provider gave someone one bonus too many and the customer ended up losing €200 because of it, others bitch about Verification, people argue about interpretations, the casinos play financial police, etc...
So where is it better than with the MGA boxes?
The only ones who don't have any problems are the Curacao casinos and quite honestly Curacao used to have the worst reputation on the subject and now they simply offer more than all the providers put together - it's almost embarrassing how you can turn a leading system into a laughing stock in a few years
The German state censors as it sees fit in favor of Player protection (haha! ) and the (potential) victims get the shaft.
But nobody cares about the political implications anyway, because Ines, Berta & Fred only find state-tolerated offers from the German amusement arcades in the no-dep overview and are forced to write either farewell letters or insults.
Jumping off the cliff is also considered, but using a VPN or the No-Dep forum thread is not.
In the meantime, Paula, Otto and about 100 other users are simply too stupid to write PMs - which are now called DMs - and Udo reports everything that seems political to him to the Spanish. Or something like that.
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Where will we end up? China The bad thing is that the Chinese are doing this censorship for propaganda. It's all about money xD
I can't say what it will look like in a few years. Only that I don't approve of the current development.
Criticism is always important if it's objective. GJ is not to blame for this situation, I think we can all agree on that. They are just victims of the German justice system. You also wrote the right thing: GJ is liable, not us.
It is also logical that these measures entail financial losses. Instead of going forwards, we are going backwards.
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I would rather live by the sea, with many hours of sunshine even in winter👍
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First of all, there are good sponsors now and the international market is still there, GJ is one of the best known brands
I don't think it's censorship either, that's a harsh term
It is regulation that is being implemented
In comparison, you may have a higher rtp in Malta/ Curacao casinos, but fewer opportunities to protect yourself
With the popularity of GJ, there are certainly some newcomers here every day who are steered in exactly the wrong direction by no dep, who doesn't check that and sees it as censorship
Simply sees it the wrong way
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There will probably only be a few new casinos. The attractiveness of German casinos for players could also suffer. This means that hardly any people will sign up due to the regulations. It is not for nothing that there are many negative voices about German casinos. I also think it is conceivable that GJ will withdraw completely from the German market when they realize that the whole thing is no longer profitable
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I think players from DE can or may continue to post things in the "bonus section" that we ourselves of course do not, never, under no circumstances use😇.
However, this bonus would not be displayed afterwards as long as you are in Germany.
In the no-dep thread, on the other hand, freedom of opinion counts, as long as nothing violates the GJ forum rules, it's allowed in there too
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Sorry, but I can't agree with you for several reasons
1) Except for Oasis you have 100% the same possibilities to protect yourself in Malta or almost in the rest of the world but Oasis is also criticized by the fewest players who have a problem with the implementation of the license but much more the outrageous taxation and the associated low chances of winning (if you can speak of it at all) and of course this ridiculous 5 second rule that nobody needs because if it is already clear how much I can lose per month, the state can't really care how I lose this amount
So why do they care? Is it because the chances of winning can be controlled to a maximum of €1? Do they really not want to allow any private gambling at all, but rather see people in the state casino (where, by the way, there is only Oasis and no limit beyond that and no 5 second rule) ? Or do you really believe the fairy tale about the increased Risk of addiction yourself? Conversely, a good 99% of the world would have to have an extreme gambling problem as this only exists here!
2) Of course it is censorship because they know exactly that the international offer is a Lambo and their DE offer is a bicycle without air in the tires and a bent handlebar and because they know how dangerous this offer of their regulation is and they cannot control it because they know exactly what kind of shit they have thrown on the market, they do everything possible so that the international offer does not reach the people and lo and behold we have censorship because a different view is suppressed because it could be dangerous for you
Weed was also illegal until recently, but I could still find out about it on the internet, so who gives them the right to decide what I can and can't watch?
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Did you really write that GJ is one of the best known brands internationally?
Honestly... how many international people do you see here? How do you even get that? GJ has its focus in the DACH region.
On the other hand: do you know what sponsors even do? They finance projects and want advertising in return. Tipico is the sponsor of the Bundesliga/2nd Bundesliga. Their presence is correspondingly large. I've never seen an OC being advertised here in a really awesome way. The only way GJ is financed is through the ref links, nothing more. The number of OCs or "online game libraries" is not as awesome now as it was 2 years ago. Even if a sponsor were to be found now, only a few would want to sponsor it (like CrazyBuzzer did last year, for example). Nothing more and this 5k is nothing. How many other campaigns can you find? You can count them with one hand.
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I can only imagine the difference between online and offline because they want to keep the casinos attractive and don't want to lose their players
That's why it's officially called an online casino and not a real casino in that sense
As a longtime player, you know exactly what problems there were, so I still know that
today, things seem to be going much better with the casinos
We have different views on censorship, maybe you're right and this is the beginning and it's getting worse and the end is near
Who knows
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The no dep section of the website certainly has by far the most traffic and that certainly doesn't come from DACH alone, just because the forum is geared towards the region doesn't mean that others don't use the website
Then they are not sponsors in the conventional sense, but they are certainly partners who are happy to support you
I would say
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I can't give any information on this because I don't have the necessary data. I haven't visited the section at all, so I can't give a personal opinion. However, I personally doubt that there are many users who do not speak German and are/were active there.
The traffic certainly doesn't only come from users from the DACH region, that's clear, but I can't say how many users there are. I suspect that the number of these users is significantly lower than the German-speaking users. Accordingly, the traffic from DACH users will be much higher than the others.
I suspect that GJ is hardly known internationally. There are many reasons for this. Hardly any international users represented, no great collaborations with international companies (as we have in the Advent calendar, for example - which is sponsored by a German company) and there are other indications, but that would unnecessarily prolong my post.
Yes, sponsors/partners - call them what you will, but how many of them actively support GJ? GJ's main sources of revenue are a) ref links (where it splits with the OCs/game stores) and traffic. I'm sure there are other revenue streams, but I suspect these two bring in the most.
Do you have any idea how many "illegal" casinos were listed and how many "online casinos" are currently listed? Furthermore, I suspect that most users come from the DACH area and it is here that GJ is losing a lot of money that they would have actually made with the ref links.
In any case, it is wrong to claim that GJ is well known internationally or that they have many sponsors/supporters.
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Well how many DE casinos are bitching here as well? The GGL doesn't care about that which shows even more the priorities of cashing in but it should be the players who are protected or not ? So why does nobody care ? Why can every casino decide what they are allowed to do and what not ?
One Provider gave someone one bonus too many and the customer ended up losing €200 because of it, others bitch about Verification, people argue about interpretations, the casinos play financial police, etc...
So where is it better than with the MGA boxes?
The only ones who don't have any problems are the Curacao casinos and quite honestly Curacao used to have the worst reputation on the subject and now they simply offer more than all the providers put together - it's almost embarrassing how you can turn a leading system into a laughing stock in a few years
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Let me summarize:
The German state censors as it sees fit in favor of Player protection (haha! ) and the (potential) victims get the shaft.
But nobody cares about the political implications anyway, because Ines, Berta & Fred only find state-tolerated offers from the German amusement arcades in the no-dep overview and are forced to write either farewell letters or insults.
Jumping off the cliff is also considered, but using a VPN or the No-Dep forum thread is not.
In the meantime, Paula, Otto and about 100 other users are simply too stupid to write PMs - which are now called DMs - and Udo reports everything that seems political to him to the Spanish. Or something like that.
Cool. Carry on.
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