Champion280667 wrote on 07/01/2019 at 20:40: Until Roulette is "FairPlay" again. Please do answer my simple poll.
Ok you want an opinion:
If I think there is cheating I don't play there and go to a state casino.
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7th Jan. 2019, at 10:32 pm CET#12
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If your bank doesn't want to give you your 10'000.- Euro on the account anymore, you also just go to another bank and Deposit again and everything is good 🙈
Champion280667 wrote on 07/01/2019 at 22:32: If your bank doesn't want to give you your 10'000.- Euro in the account anymore, you also just go to another bank and redeposit and all is well 🙈
LoL what a comparison...
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No, with both of them you only notice the fraud afterwards and are guaranteed to get the scammed money back.
I don't suppose you want to answer my first simple question, the main thing is to distract from the topic, which every child clearly notices.
How about just an honest and clear statement with backbone.🤗
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7th Jan. 2019, at 11:56 pm CET#15
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I am not a professional or I know almost nothing...with roulette. But what I can say for sure is that in the first video with the woman is a cut at the moment where the ball bounces and it jerks briefly, so I know myself and therefore do not see this video as proof of whatever!
In the second video, the case looks different, the video is Astrein and the ball bounces something funny, I say but only as a layman, look at me otherwise no Roulette and do not know if this is normal.
The third video is supposed to explain what supposedly happened, well you can take note but whether that is really what is supposed to happen here I doubt strongly, because where should the one with the trigger stand? ... and why don't they do it more cleverly and steer the ball instead of letting it bounce somewhere. The Manipulation would be extremely stupid and if that would be done differently, I'm sure.
The whole thing here brings nothing, by the way, except that you have the two camps (manipulation supporters and those who doubt the) against each other and it ends in wild verbal derailments....from therefore it brings nothing, leave the crap!
1) You actually didn't ask a question ... or I can't find you in the opening post.You only asked for an opinion...
2) Yes the bullet behavior looks fake, but I as a non-boiler looker can't really judge that.
3) What bothers me most about the story : Why should this run against only one person as described by you in the other thread ? Either everyone at the table would have to get a different result or a software would determine at which number the win/loss ratio is most favorable for the casino. But then the casino would have to manipulate the ball to hit a previously determined number exactly, which would not be the case with a vibrating ball.
4) Hmm ...how do I say it as nice as possible without you understand it as an attack ...... so with penetrance you will certainly not convince people.
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8th Jan. 2019, at 12:11 am CET#17
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Unbeliver wrote on 07.01.2019 at 23:56: I am not a professional or I know almost nothing...with roulette. But what I can say for sure is that in the first video with the woman is a cut at the moment where the ball bounces and it jerks briefly, so I know myself and therefore do not see this video as proof of whatever!
In the second video, the case looks different, the video is Astrein and the ball bounces something funny, I say but only as a layman, look at me otherwise no Roulette and do not know if this is normal.
The third video is supposed to explain what supposedly happened, well you can take note but whether this is really what should happen here I doubt strongly, because where should the one with the trigger stand? ... and why don't they do it more cleverly and steer the ball instead of letting it bounce somewhere. The Manipulation would be extremely stupid and if that would be done differently, I'm sure.
The whole thing here brings nothing, by the way, except that you have the two camps (manipulation supporters and those who doubt the) against each other and it ends in wild verbal derailments....from therefore it brings nothing, leave but the crap!
Sorry, the crap I take back because it could be misconstrued but in any case should not be an attack....it simply brings nothing.
In the first video, a layman may suspect unnatural ball behavior, but when objectively evaluated and considering the physical facts regarding the materials used, there are no irregularities to be found.
Can you name the table in question? Am I correct in assuming that this is the "Roulette" table from EvolutionGaming?
As for the second video, a closer analysis is admittedly warranted. However, here, too, we should not prematurely accuse fraud. Especially since it is a live broadcast from a state-owned casino. Do you seriously think that the casino would Risk its entire revenue for the sake of occasionally saving a few thousand euros from online players?
After all, if it was tampering, the authorities could be informed immediately at any time and storm the casino to secure the evidence. No established casino in the world would ever risk their license for such relatively ridiculous amounts. What do you think the sums are wagered there every day?
I haven't watched the third video, so I'll stay away from this topic for now.
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8th Jan. 2019, at 05:53 am CET#19
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Latino wrote on 08/01/2019 at 00:01: @Champion280667:
1) You actually didn't ask a question...or I can't find you in the opening post.You only asked for an opinion...
2) Yes the bullet behavior looks fake, but I as a non-boiler looker can't really judge that.
3) What bothers me most about the story : Why should this run against only one person as described by you in the other thread ? Either everyone at the table would have to get a different result or a software would determine at which number the win/loss ratio is most favorable for the casino. But then the casino would have to manipulate the ball to hit a previously determined number exactly, which would not be the case with a vibrating ball.
4) Hmm ...how do I say it as nice as possible without you understand it as an attack ...... so with penetrance you will certainly not convince people.
If I as a grouper have a player with 2000.- Euro on the 12, it would certainly be a pleasure for my employer if I place the ball on all fields except the 12. This is what you achieve with this technical device
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8th Jan. 2019, at 05:56 am CET#20
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Unbeliver wrote on 07.01.2019 at 23:56: I am not a professional or I know almost nothing...with roulette. But what I can say for sure is that in the first video with the woman is a cut at the moment where the ball bounces and it jerks briefly, so I know myself and therefore do not see this video as proof of whatever!
In the second video, the case looks different, the video is Astrein and the ball bounces something funny, I say but only as a layman, look at me otherwise no Roulette and do not know if this is normal.
The third video is supposed to explain what supposedly happened, well you can take note but whether this is really what should happen here I doubt strongly, because where should the one with the trigger stand? ... and why don't they do it more cleverly and steer the ball instead of letting it bounce somewhere. The Manipulation would be extremely stupid and if that would be done differently, I'm sure.
The whole thing here brings nothing, by the way, except that you have the two camps (manipulation supporters and those who doubt the) against each other and it ends in wild verbal derailments....from therefore it brings nothing, leave but the crap!
There is no one with a remote control....intelligent software is the magic word.
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Ok you want an opinion:
If I think there is cheating I don't play there and go to a state casino.
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LoL what a comparison...
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I don't suppose you want to answer my first simple question, the main thing is to distract from the topic, which every child clearly notices.
How about just an honest and clear statement with backbone.🤗
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In the second video, the case looks different, the video is Astrein and the ball bounces something funny, I say but only as a layman, look at me otherwise no Roulette and do not know if this is normal.
The third video is supposed to explain what supposedly happened, well you can take note but whether that is really what is supposed to happen here I doubt strongly, because where should the one with the trigger stand? ... and why don't they do it more cleverly and steer the ball instead of letting it bounce somewhere. The Manipulation would be extremely stupid and if that would be done differently, I'm sure.
The whole thing here brings nothing, by the way, except that you have the two camps (manipulation supporters and those who doubt the) against each other and it ends in wild verbal derailments....from therefore it brings nothing, leave the crap!
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1) You actually didn't ask a question ... or I can't find you in the opening post.You only asked for an opinion...
2) Yes the bullet behavior looks fake, but I as a non-boiler looker can't really judge that.
3) What bothers me most about the story : Why should this run against only one person as described by you in the other thread ? Either everyone at the table would have to get a different result or a software would determine at which number the win/loss ratio is most favorable for the casino. But then the casino would have to manipulate the ball to hit a previously determined number exactly, which would not be the case with a vibrating ball.
4) Hmm ...how do I say it as nice as possible without you understand it as an attack ...... so with penetrance you will certainly not convince people.
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Sorry, the crap I take back because it could be misconstrued but in any case should not be an attack....it simply brings nothing.
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Can you name the table in question? Am I correct in assuming that this is the "Roulette" table from EvolutionGaming?
As for the second video, a closer analysis is admittedly warranted. However, here, too, we should not prematurely accuse fraud. Especially since it is a live broadcast from a state-owned casino. Do you seriously think that the casino would Risk its entire revenue for the sake of occasionally saving a few thousand euros from online players?
After all, if it was tampering, the authorities could be informed immediately at any time and storm the casino to secure the evidence. No established casino in the world would ever risk their license for such relatively ridiculous amounts. What do you think the sums are wagered there every day?
I haven't watched the third video, so I'll stay away from this topic for now.
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If I as a grouper have a player with 2000.- Euro on the 12, it would certainly be a pleasure for my employer if I place the ball on all fields except the 12. This is what you achieve with this technical device
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There is no one with a remote control....intelligent software is the magic word.
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