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Off topic & small talk: Nagging Corner (Page 78)

Topic created on 24th Apr. 2019 | Page: 78 of 175 | Answers: 1,743 | Views: 226,550
refucs
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Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:09 pm CET#783
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Work must be worthwhile, so it would be a mistake to provide even more incentives not to go to work...

Who should actually finance this state if you prefer Hartz4 / citizen's money until you have found your dream job?

I work in a job that is not my dream job, but I can at least live from it and pay taxes. I could also stay at home and receive transfer payments if I wanted to. But I don't. Because if everyone did that, everything would go down the drain here.

That many can no longer live even from work, yes that is a real problem. I also do not know how to break the vicious circle, in capitalism there will and must always be poverty, because that does not work otherwise. Or rather, very poor and very rich is just unfortunately a product of the whole. Planned economy does not work either.

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Anonym

Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:15 pm CET#784
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refucs wrote on 31.01.2023 at 15:09: Work must be worthwhile, so it would be wrong to create even more incentives not to go to work...

Maybe it would be better to create incentives to work? *gg*
In which one does not tax work, that would be nevertheless times what

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Blubbo33
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Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:22 pm CET#785
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Royal777 wrote on 31/01/2023 at 15:01:

One month on Hartz IV: This is how Jens Spahn would fare with 416 euros

Man of honor Spahn meets Hartz 4 recipient

And what is wrong with it now ?!


Just because the single mother has no job does not mean that she lives undignified !??

This mother will also find a job, but you have to lower your standards!

And if you criticize Spahn you should at least give examples of how it could go better and would be realistic!

The state is not responsible for everything and everyone!

Refucs has described it quite well!

And as I said, stop dreaming and take your life in your own hands, the state can not guarantee you a dream life!

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Donnie
Expert

Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:24 pm CET#786
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Anonym

Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:27 pm CET#787
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Blubbo33 wrote on 01/31/2023 at 15:22:
And what is wrong with it now ?!


Just because the single mother doesn't have a job doesn't mean she lives undignified !?!

This mother will also find a job, but you have to lower your standards!

And if you criticize Spahn you should at least give examples of how it could go better and would be realistic!

The state is not responsible for everything and everyone!

Refucs has described it quite well!

And as I said, stop dreaming and take your life in your own hands, the state can not guarantee you a dream life!

Let the people but draw their citizen money If you don't want to/can't work, you don't have to. You can go to work yourself.

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Donnie
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Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:32 pm CET#788
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Blubbo33 wrote on 01/31/2023 at 15:22:
And what is wrong with it now ?!


Just because the single mother doesn't have a job doesn't mean she lives undignified !?!

This mother will also find a job, but you have to lower your standards!

And if you criticize Spahn you should at least give examples of how it could go better and would be realistic!

The state is not responsible for everything and everyone!

Refucs has described it quite well!

And as I said, stop dreaming and take your life in your own hands, the state can not guarantee you a dream life!

The typical Stammtischgeblubber of the Nach-Unten-Tretern.Gibt by the way not enough work for everyone.Here in my city a product is manufactured, everyone knows here.Naja have just invested 50 million in an automated plant and already 85% of the workforce have been dismissed, machines take over the work.You could also tax machines and put every citizen a basic income and everyone who wants may then what to earn extra

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Falko
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Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:34 pm CET#789
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Since this year, a citizen's income recipient is also allowed to dispose of higher assets, which remains untouched, compared to a pensioner who has a long working life behind him, but receives such a low pension that he must additionally apply for basic security. Justly that would have to be actually exactly reversed. To the citizen money receiver the legislator permits 15,000 euro Schonvermögen and the pensioner only 10,000 euro Schonvermögen. Until the introduction of the citizen's income, the amount was the same for both groups, at 5,000 euros each.

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Blubbo33
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Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:45 pm CET#790
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Donnie wrote on 01/31/2023 at 3:32 pm:

The typical Stammtischgeblubber of the Nach-Unten-Tretern.Gibt by the way not enough work for everyone.Here in my city a product is manufactured, knows everyone here.Naja have just times invested 50 million in an automated plant and already are determined 85% of the workforce have been laid off, machines take over the work.One could also tax machines and provide each citizen a basic income and everyone who wants may then earn what in addition

I have also never written that there is enough work in every city!

Automation is nowmal part of it, is not only so that it increases unemployment, it also increases productivity or facilitates the work!

Otherwise we would still come to work on foot or with horses!

And why Geblubber ? It hits everyone in the future somehow or sometime, until then it is to bring his sheep in the dry, because Father State will be able to help even less in the future.

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Blubbo33
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Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 03:48 pm CET#791
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Royal777 wrote on 31/01/2023 at 15:27:

Let the people draw their citizen's money If you don't want to/can't work, you don't have to. One can go to work himself.

Of course, everyone can and should refer to the citizen's income that wants, but if he does not want to work you should not whine that it is too little !?

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Blubbo33
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Nagging Corner

31st Jan. 2023, at 04:01 pm CET#792
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Perhaps still one to the whole citizen money dreamers, if that would come imagine times how high then the immigration would be within the EU or even for asylum reasons!

One should rather consider for what the state and for whom everything gives money!?
There is a lot to improve here but it makes the appearance that the policy fails more and more!

Therefore, stop dreaming that the state will fix everything for you, fight for you and your families as long as you can to make the future more or less bearable.

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