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D****p

The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 04:25 pm CEST#1
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The freak-outs here in the forum are slowly becoming totally understandable to me
The whole gambling no matter whether online or offline has split in 2 extremes. 1% wins fiercely high and 99% with whom the money just runs through. Where do you want to go with the frustration that sits deep inside you? I have already seen people in gambling houses, there is the chair in the screen landed. There were real brawls started, because one loses thousands of euros and the next one who sits down at the box cracks the jackpot. I can already imagine, one loses 500Euro on smallest stakes then comes online and may then look at the super great pictures again. The fight poor against rich. It is getting worse and worse.

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The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 04:56 pm CEST#2
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Behind almost every big win is an even bigger loss. We are not competitors here or in the Spielo. Sure, it can make you a little envious when you see a great picture. But you only see this one nice win. Not what happened in between, not the losses before, maybe weeks or months ago. Whoever is so upset by these pictures that he flips out, has a massive problem with gambling and should urgently stop and seek help

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D****p

The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 06:02 pm CEST#3
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It's always easy to say someone should seek help.
I don't know where you live, but here they either don't give appointments anymore because they are completely overloaded or appointments that are in 6-12 months. I speak from experience

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The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 06:04 pm CEST#4
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I am not an expert on places to go, I know from experience that therapy places in Germany are hell to get. But initial counseling should be possible without any problems. Otherwise, there are also forums and self-help groups where everyone can go. A gambling forum is basically a bad place to stop gambling

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Anonym

The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 06:12 pm CEST#5
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DerSuperDepp wrote on 04/10/2018 at 18:02: It's always easy to say someone should seek help.
I don't know where you live, but here they either don't give appointments anymore because they are completely overloaded or appointments that are in 6-12 months. I speak from experience

Or just admit yourself to be such a mature person that you can take steps to stop on your own.

Yes, it's a great excuse that you have to wait so long. But you can also make the decision not to make it easy for yourself and to get off your ass.
You won't hear much else in therapy either.
There are enough people who do therapy for years and still it doesn't help because they don't really want it inside.

Think about it.

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Anonym

The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 06:21 pm CEST#6
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arguing with stupid people is like playing chess with a deaf person - that's what my grandma always taught me. Think about it

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The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 07:26 pm CEST#7
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Random wrote on 04/10/2018 at 18:12
Or just admit yourself to be such a mature person that you can take steps to stop on your own.

Yes, it's a great excuse that you have to wait so long. But you can also make the decision not to make it easy for yourself and to get off your ass.
You won't hear much else in therapy either.
There are enough people who do therapy for years and still it doesn't help because they don't really want it inside.

Think about it.

Gambling is fun, but it takes a while before you want more.
I know that with the want. Over four years ago I quit smoking, I smoked the 5 a day with pleasure and the other 25 because of the addiction/habit. Now I steam and there is nothing better than quitting.

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The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 07:54 pm CEST#8
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You can let out a bit of anger, but if you smash machines, etc. or attack other people, I find that intolerable. Anyone who plays in the casino, no matter where, is already from the beginning a bad deal that he wins less in the long run and the only chance to get out positively is a big win and then stop. This is then about as likely as a 6 in the lottery, not as hard as with super number maybe, but still very rare.

I have also managed to self medicate after many attempts, maybe it's not perfect but I feel very strong willed now and stop before it hurts. I play on the lowest stakes again, I have fun with it again and I don't hit the limit anymore - because I stick to it. I've been especially helped by some of my fellow players and also by watching streamers. Some play with fake money, but not all, and you can often see the end stage of addiction. No win is high enough anymore, nothing is paid out anymore, the limits are pushed further and further down and you get aggressive and angry if you don't get 500x or more permanently. This has shown me really clearly how I could be or partly already am and I don't want that any longer.

I do not dare to play since my little win yesterday, could be that I then come into the pleasure of paying in. I prefer to wait a little until my brain has processed the win.

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The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 07:58 pm CEST#9
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Ankor wrote on 04.10.2018 at 19:54: Let out a bit of anger you can, but if you smash machines, etc. or attack other people I find that intolerable. Anyone who plays in the casino, no matter where, is already from the beginning a bad deal that he wins less in the long run and the only chance to come out positive is a big win and then stop. This is then about as likely as a 6 in the lottery, not as hard as with super number maybe, but still very rare.

I have also managed to self medicate after many attempts, maybe it's not perfect but I feel very strong willed now and stop before it hurts. I play on the lowest stakes again, I have fun again and I don't hit the limit anymore - because I stick to it. I have been helped by some of my fellow players and also by watching streamers. Some play with fake money, but not all, and you can often see the end stage of addiction. No win is high enough anymore, nothing is paid out anymore, the limits are pushed further and further down and you get aggressive and angry if you don't get 500x or more permanently. This has shown me really clearly how I could be or partly already am and I don't want that any longer.

I do not dare to play since my little win yesterday, could be that I then come into the pleasure of paying in. I prefer to wait a little until my brain has processed the win.

That is a very good approach and partly I already tried it that way. I try for example never to Deposit again if I have lost. If I deposit 10€ today then that's it, then I play with 10€. If I have more bock on gambling I just deposit from time to time 25€ but always only the once. This is the first step to avoid a total loss of control. Unfortunately, I am not always strong-willed enough to pay me all my wins. If I win 500€ I pay out for example only 300€ and gamble away the rest, actually it would be smarter to pay out everything directly

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Anonym

The freakouts here in the forum

4th Oct. 2018, at 08:22 pm CEST#10
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Bone wrote on 04/10/2018 at 19:58
This is a very good approach and partly I have tried the same. I try for example never to Deposit again if I have lost. If I deposit 10€ today then that's it, then I play with 10€. If I have more bock on gambling I just deposit from time to time 25€ but always only the once. This is the first step to avoid a total loss of control. Unfortunately, I am not always strong-willed enough to pay me all my wins. If I win 500€ I pay out for example only 300€ and gamble away the rest, actually it would be smarter to pay out everything directly.

This is really true, when you start depositing multiple times it becomes critical very quickly. I know it from me that I have won a little bit, but did not want it to be "over" and then I always paid out and left a part. Most of the time you just push it down without really paying attention to the win and loss. I think I'm beginning to understand why a time limit might be useful.

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