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27th May. 2018, at 04:35 pm CEST#11
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Mombasa wrote on 05/27/2018 at 4:33 pm: The seeds of evil seem to be rising.
The communists in Brussels and Berlin will continue to try with all their might to massively suppress our opinion. And those who resist will just be muzzled by other means.

The communists who privatize more and more, yes? The communists who sell roads to investors, who leave broadband expansion to companies and create state-subsidized monopolies? Europe is more to the right than it has been since 1940; a few more communists in government factions would be quite helpful.

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27th May. 2018, at 04:41 pm CEST#12
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Bones wrote on 05/27/2018 at 4:35 pm
government subsidized monopolies

That's exactly what communism is all about!
The leftist policies of the last years are responsible for the strengthening of the right-wing parties. The so-called center has moved so far to the left that even the FDP already has a supposed N**i problem.

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27th May. 2018, at 04:46 pm CEST#13
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Merkel is relatively left-wing for a CDU politician, but still not left-wing. The SPD, on the other hand, has moved to the right, as have the Greens. It's now a big, centrist mishmash. Of course, birds of a feather like the AFD can profit from this in the short term. But I'm also talking about Europe as a whole. If you look at the political situation in Poland or Hungary, for example. Even the Scandinavians are moving to the right. This has nothing to do with the "left-wing" politics of recent years, which were not so left-wing, but rather with the zeitgeist and the abstract fear of immigration. But it will also subside again, everything always happens in phases. Not to forget, in 1940, pretty much every European country was somewhat fascist.

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28th May. 2018, at 11:55 am CEST#14
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I find the political situation in Poland and Hungary very relaxed. I have friends in Poland and relatives in Hungary who are all very happy with the government as it is. There, for example, in terms of illegal migration, only what the population wants is implemented. And Hungary in particular had very big problems with Gypsies and also Sinti and Roma until 10 years ago. And this problem would definitely not like to be back, just because it is decided in Brussels. Orban was elected with an absolute majority, I think that speaks for him.

And ask the people on the street in Poland whether they would like to take in Muslims?

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28th May. 2018, at 12:26 pm CEST#15
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I am not saying that the people there are oppressed, but that a large part in these and other European countries shows this attitude makes clear the European shift to the right. I personally don't think much of it, of course, but I'm trying to look objectively at where such a thinking population comes from.

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28th May. 2018, at 12:34 pm CEST#16
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Please do not confuse conservative with "right-wing"!
The Poles and the Hungarians are also not well to speak on the N**is!

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28th May. 2018, at 12:36 pm CEST#17
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Please do not confuse N**is with right

There is still a difference between right-wing, conservative politics and national socialism. There is also a difference between left-wing politics and communism. But especially Poland and Hungary have made a really right-wing policy in the last years. Poland, due to the influence of the Catholic Church, was absurdly backward in some cases.

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28th May. 2018, at 12:38 pm CEST#18
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Knochen wrote on 28.05.2018 at 12:26 pm: I'm not saying that the people there are oppressed, but that a large part in these and other European countries shows this attitude illustrates the European shift to the right. I personally don't think anything of it of course but I just try to look at this objectively where such a thinking population comes from.

So everyone who is critical of mass immigration is automatically right-wing?

Ask yourself rather times where your view/opinion comes from. Taken over by the media or have you really thought about it yourself?

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28th May. 2018, at 12:47 pm CEST#19
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Random wrote on 05/28/2018 at 12:38 PM
So everyone who is critical of mass immigration is automatically right wing?

Better ask yourself where your view/opinion comes from. Taken from the media or have you really done your own thinking?

What is this now... No not all those who are critical of immigration are right-wing, I didn't say that at all? I have not only made my own thoughts, I have actively participated and I probably had a lot more contact with refugees than anyone else here, but of course only in Germany and not in Poland or Hungary. But I find it alarming that this issue of refugee policy overshadows all other concerns. I didn't even mean refugee policy, but general domestic and foreign policy. I agree that mass immigration is responsible for a general shift to the right, but that's not all. If we in Germany, for example, had enough daycare places, much more social housing and less vacant real estate owned by foreign investors, better social services and a better education system, less privatization in the public sector then our population might have reacted differently to refugees. My opinion on the subject is honestly rather liberal. I have experienced many refugees, cared for many refugee children and witnessed examples of fabulous integration. The strong desire to learn the language and do well in school. On the other hand, I have also witnessed refugees who refused to attend language classes and were constantly making noise in the collective housing for more pocket money. It's just like any population group in my opinion, put me 1 million people and more than half are assholes. So it is with Germans, with Syrians and with Romanians. It is difficult to check this at the border now, but so far I am still of the opinion that Germany has not had any major problems taking in the refugees who are already there and more are still coming. Individual authorities are of course heavily overloaded and that is certainly a problem, but not one that should lead to not providing initial humanitarian aid.

Edit: I can accept other opinions than my own. I also don't think that being right wing is a bad thing. It needs both wings in a democracy. And both must be able to represent and recognize their opinions. The problem in Germany is that the N**i club is unpacked too quickly when there are justified concerns and the right is basically seen as something bad, but that's nonsense. I say this as an active voter and inactive member of the Left Party.

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28th May. 2018, at 12:53 pm CEST#20
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Guys, please stay on topic.

Political opinions should not be discussed here.

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