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Conspiracy theories: The truth about Roshtein and Trainwreckstv ?

Topic created on 27th Dec. 2021 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 13 | Views: 6,135
table1
Rookie
Hello all,

Roshtein is a well-known name in the gambling scene
There are also videos where he has played with gambling money in the past

So far so good BUT, since he started playing at Stake, he has muted all the "haters".
You can always tell it's his Real Money. It is definitely real money.
You can also look up the BTC transactions where some bitcoins are transferred.

So my question now is, what is the truth now?
Does he really have such a fortune or how can he fake the whole thing?

Why doesn't he retire?
I follow him very closely and he has landed some big hits in recent weeks like 4 million win or even a 7 million win

What I find a bit strange are the bonus distributions between Roshtein and TrainWrecksTV
TrainWrecksTV gets a maximum of 200x-300x wins, while Roshtein gets at least 500x in almost EVERY STREAM
Somehow there can be something wrong, right? Can the casino really influence that the session of Roshtein suddenly gives a win?

I would be so happy to get some clarification
I love both streamers, they entertain me but the moral is also somewhere important whereas I think Train is very honest and Roshtein is hiding something from us.....

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zocker0815
Top Member
my friend so easy

all this can be controlled


and besides once I do not know how the name, a big German Streamer who has always streamed Wildz, openly spoken in the stream that he just gets so 1000-2000€ free money and must then also implement but still 1000-2000€ just for free to play?

he then also said if he then manages to convert the eg he can pay out 10% of the final sum

eg his viewers see he has created at the end 10k he may pay out 1k


so table do not worry they get the casino may then mostly only a small % rate pay out or maybe nothing you do not really believe rohstein pays out such huge amounts?

because then you would have to take yourself to the head if rohstein such 5mio hits lands who pays the one??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

exactly no one, he said himself in an interview rohstein that his streams should serve the entertainment, what that means exactly can think of anyone


it has once a casino owner said in a documentary you can control wins and say who wins what, which is not forbidden as long as RTP is respected


And because always all say the slots are controlled by providers......

such a bullshit the slots are controlled by the casinos, you see it yourself every time you open a slot:

This Play'n GO game is operated by Mr Vegas Ltd, a company incorporated in Malta and regulated by the MGA.


I can of course imagine that it is different with the Jackpot slots of course but with the normal games it is so, wearum the casinos have their own RTP ?




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table1
Rookie

zocker0815 wrote on 12/27/2021 at 13:22: my friend so easy

you can control all this


and besides once I do not know how the name, a big German Streamer who has always streamed Wildz, openly spoken in the stream that he just gets so 1000-2000€ free money and must then also implement but still 1000-2000€ just for free to play?

he then also said if he then manages to convert the eg he can pay out 10% of the final amount

eg his viewers see he has created at the end 10k he may pay out 1k


so table do not worry they get the casino may then mostly only a small % rate pay out or maybe nothing you do not really believe rohstein pays out such huge amounts?

because then you would have to take yourself to the head if rohstein such 5mio hits lands who pays the one??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

exactly no one, he said himself in an interview rohstein that his streams should serve the entertainment, what that means exactly can think of everyone


it has once a casino owner said in a documentary you can control wins and say who wins what, which is not forbidden as long as RTP is respected


And because everyone always say the slots are controlled by providers......

such a bullshit the slots are controlled by the casinos, you see it yourself every time you open a slot:

This Play'n GO game is operated by Mr Vegas Ltd, a company incorporated in Malta and regulated by the MGA.


I can of course imagine that it is different with the Jackpot slots of course but with the normal games it is so, wearum the casinos have their own RTP ?





I have to disagree with you on one point. Someone HAS to trigger these transactions in millions. You can even see this in Train's stream, as he simply pays out 500k, 600k, etc... to his wallet, which he also uses for his giveaway

With Rosh you don't see it but while he is doing that in the background the transaction is done on his wallet. The seconds are pretty much the same

Someone has to explain to me how you can fake something like that.... especially with Train it is IMPOSSIBLE, because you can see it live

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ramb00
Amateur
zocker0815 wrote on 12/27/2021 at 13:22: my friend so easy

you can control all this


and besides once I do not know how the name, a big German Streamer who has always streamed Wildz, openly spoken in the stream that he just gets so 1000-2000€ free money and must then also implement but still 1000-2000€ just for free to play?

he then also said if he then manages to implement the eg he can pay out 10% of the final sum

eg his viewers see he has created at the end 10k he may pay out 1k


so table do not worry they get the casino may then pay out mostly only a small % rate or maybe nothing you do not really believe rohstein pays out such huge amounts?

because then you would have to take yourself to the head if rohstein such 5mio hits lands who pays the one??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

exactly no one, he said himself in an interview rohstein that his streams should serve the entertainment, what that means exactly can think of everyone


it has once a casino owner said in a documentary you can control wins and say who wins what, which is not forbidden as long as RTP is respected


And because everyone always say the slots are controlled by providers......

such a bullshit the slots are controlled by the casinos, you see it yourself every time you open a slot:

This Play'n GO game is operated by Mr Vegas Ltd, a company incorporated in Malta and regulated by the MGA.


I can of course imagine that it is different with the Jackpot slots of course but with the normal games it is so, wearum the casinos have their own RTP ?





I love Roshtein, he entertains so well! I wouldn't care if it's fake or real money, you have to give him credits for his stream either way.

To your concerns "someone has to pay in the 5million" I think that a LOT is paid in daily. Stake is a giant, they just had a stadium built for ~$800m? Or am I wrong?

Think about it, if only 5k people (and there are many times more) pay in "only" 1k, it is 5mio

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zocker0815
Top Member
table1 wrote on 12/27/2021 at 1:33 pm

I have to disagree with you on one point. Someone HAS to trigger these transactions in millions. In Train's case you can even see it in the stream, how he simply pays out 500k, 600k, etc... to his wallet himself, which he also uses to do his giveaway

With Rosh you don't see it but while he is doing that in the background the transaction is done on his wallet. The seconds are pretty much the same

Someone has to explain to me how you can fake something like that.... especially with Train it is IMPOSSIBLE, because you can see it live.

i say anything is possible

maybe it is also partly real money that he always sends back and forth


but that he wins eg monthly let's say now times 10mio € calculate times?

then would have to be paid in at least times 20mio€ from other people whereby presumably then 10mio go to rosh and 10mio€ to the casino?


and the people who have paid in the 20mio€ in one month are left empty-handed?

does not make sense or?

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zocker0815
Top Member
ramb00 wrote on 12/27/2021 at 1:39 pm
I love Roshtein, he just entertains incredibly well! I wouldn't care if it's fake or real money, you have to give him credits for his stream either way.

To your concerns "someone has to Deposit the 5million" I think a LOT is deposited daily. Stake is a giant, they just had a stadium built for ~$800m? Or am I wrong?

Think about it, if only 5k people (although there are many times more) pay "only" 1k, it is 5mio

but it is also a fact that most players are 0,10€ to 0,50€ players and do not pay in 1k

you only need to look at the win pictures here minds. 80% under 1€ stake if not merh

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table1
Rookie

zocker0815 wrote on 27.12.2021 at 13:45
but the fact is that most players are 0,10€ to 0,50€ players and do not Deposit 1k

you only need to look at the win pictures here minds. 80% under 1€ stake if not merh

also this is not quite right...

on Stake there is a kind of "RENN-Highscore list". There you can clearly see that place 1 and place 2 are Rosh and Train.
But after that there are still some players who play at least 100-400 € stakes

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zocker0815
Top Member
table1 wrote on 12/27/2021 at 1:47 pm

this is also not quite correct...

on Stake there is a kind of "RENN highscore list". There you can clearly see that place 1 and place 2 are Rosh and Train.
But after that there are still some players who play at least 100-400 € stakes.

yes sure maybe a few other Streamer and will also be a few "normal" yes but still

you have ne other opinion you want to put the just so right that maybe it is not cheating, in my eyes but already


alone the young people is shown by rohstein how easy it is to win with casino and that's where the fraud starts with me


who thinks wow I'm about to pay in, to 90% I garntier if this is his first Deposit wins the already times thick


and then the fever has you


because that's exactly what happened to me



PS: look occasionally myself raw stone but, in my case now I know how the reality looks, the stupid only another just not xD

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ramb00
Amateur
zocker0815 wrote on 27.12.2021 at 13:53
yes sure maybe a few other streamers and will also be a few "normal" yes but still

you have ne other opinion you want to put you just so right that it is perhaps not cheating, in my eyes but already


alone the young people is shown by rohstein how easy you can win with casino and that's where the fraud starts with me


who thinks wow I'm about to pay in, to 90% I garntier if this is his first Deposit wins the already times thick


and then the fever has you


because that's exactly what happened to me



PS: look occasionally myself rohstein but, in my case now I know how the reality looks, the stupid only another just not xD

Then you are naive, sorry. I always pay in because I have fun to gambeln and certainly also addicted but know that I will lose my money possibly. I have never been triggered by Streamer wins to play.

You're always just comparing the forum here. Yanks are much crazier and I'm not just talking about streamers, they play such sick stakes too.

Especially since Train says I think at least 40x in the stream that Online Casinos are the biggest rip-off and you will lose in any case if you pay. I'm not defending anything here and I'm not saying that this is realmoney. My only that the numbers with which you handle mMn. are far from reality ( more )

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zocker0815
Top Member
mhhh... naive ?


i admit yes, i have been triggered by streamers where they won, as i was also signed up to the same casino and then just tried the same slots, what was the Streamer continuous free spins with over 300x wins and many in between counters

with me exactly garnix


so from such mistakes you learn, I at least

i also watch generally no streamer, except as I said roshtein when I'm on twitch times briefly purely



where I have to say play for several years online, but have also not once played beyond my means...

how is it with you ramb00 ?


i say so you have to learn, namely what is best for you, as with me eg when I already 50 or 100 Deposit 1-2 € spins make and not with 0.10 or 0.20 herumumeiern I did in the beginning, and there I can guarantee you what I had more loss than now


because if he does not give you at the 1-2 € spins then 100-200 more deposits also do not help so I would there in the case 1-2 weeks later maybe deposit again

i have won in the spring a lot, and now at the beginning of november can even be that I am this year a little in the plus

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