And here the topic of the connection between RTP and stake size was briefly touched upon.
I am of the opinion that this is the only starting point for thinking about manipulation. That's the crux of the matter
The slots must be programmed somehow, no company is so stupid and simply risks that tens of thousands of spins on 20c no wins come and then when someone bets 20€ at once FS come with 3000x
But the Risk would be given if in fact each spin would stand alone with the same probability of winning
So in my opinion, the RTP MUST run extra for each bet amount. And then it can actually no longer be pure chance
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 12.07.2020 at 18:17: Name me a Provider who went bankrupt, please!
I've never heard of a provider going out of business either. Instead, small providers are usually bought out, possibly they will eventually buy out the corner store BTG.
With casinos it looks quite different, see -> {link removed}
Some important factors are missing in the article, namely the tax rate per spin. Because every spin causes costs for the casino. Theoretically, a player can do a lot of damage if he would have a balance of several 10,000€, but has a maximum cashout of 100€. Many Just 4 Fun players gamble away their excess casino funds, unaware that they are incurring massive unnecessary costs.
But if this is such a bearable business and so easy to make millions, why aren't there many more of them ?
And why do you still play when everything is a lie and a scam? Except blackmamba gives no one ne answer to it?
Sorry but I do not get it ?
If you are so convinced, I would not spend a cent
The Online Casinos have been around for so long, and no manager reveals the scandal or gives out information? Why do not the Curacao casinos get a mga license and earn with?
No matter everyone thinks what he wants and plays as much as he wants, but please do not post more pictures with runs and still runs to cry crocodile tears again, because that does not fit together
Blubbo33 wrote on 12/07/2020 at 18:42: But if this is such a tolerable business and so easy to make millions, why are there not many more of them ?
And then why are you still playing when it's all lies and scams? Except blackmamba no one gives ne answer?
Sorry but I do not get it ?
If you are so convinced, I would not spend a cent
The Online Casinos have been around for so long, and no manager reveals the scandal or gives out information?
No matter everyone thinks what he wants and plays as much as he wants, but please do not post more pictures with runs and still runs to cry crocodile tears again, because that does not fit together.
The problem is that everyone always puts it as he would like to. If one loses, it is the bad casinos. If you win, then you were very lucky
I don't blame the discount store around the corner for buying too much chocolate. I also don't blame the pub landlord if I get a drinking problem.
It's too easy in this area to say they're manipulating. Because my money is gone and therefore it must be manipulated. There is no other reason for it. For God's sake, not your own addiction!
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12th Jul. 2020, at 06:56 pm CEST#106
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Royal777 wrote on 12/07/2020 at 18:32
True, some important factors are missing in the article, namely the tax rate per spin. Because every spin causes costs for the casino. Theoretically a player can do a big damage if he would have a balance of several 10,000€ but has a maximum cashout of 100€. Many Just 4 Fun players gamble away their excess casino funds, unaware that they are incurring massive unnecessary costs.
I don't think so. Do you have any info on this?
I think rather the pay in the month a sum X to the Provider to be allowed to offer this
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Jokerboy wrote on 12/07/2020 at 18:56
I don't think so. Do you have any info on that?
I rather think they pay a sum X to the Provider per month to be allowed to offer it.
I will give you a link later. But in principle you are also right, yet the casino itself decides what Deposit offer they offer the player. This results in extra costs that the casino has to bear. There is also a technical term for these "turnover costs" per spin. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with it right now, but I'll give it to you later!
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12th Jul. 2020, at 07:33 pm CEST#108
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Jokerboy wrote on 07/12/2020 at 6:47 pm: I don't blame the pub owner if I get a drinking problem either.
It's too easy in this area to say they're manipulating. Because my money is gone and therefore it must be manipulated. There is no other reason for it. For God's sake, not your own addiction!
But you would make terror with the landlord if he pours you adulterated alcohol. And that's what this thread is about.
Several gamblers here, some of them old hands, have had the same symptoms/mistakes and therefore doubt the authenticity of the processes.
What exactly makes you so sure that Manipulation is not possible?
Why do you categorically exclude fraud?
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12th Jul. 2020, at 07:38 pm CEST#109
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Blubbo33 wrote on 12/07/2020 at 18:42
So why are you still playing when it's all lies and cheating?
Sorry but I don't get it ?
If you are so convinced I would not spend a cent
You are just stuck
Why do you think the doubters pay in so much???
Probably because one can say only after several deposits that there is something wrong.
I'll even leave out the addiction/greed factor.
Tribeholz wrote on 12.07.2020 at 19:33
But you would make terror at the landlord if he pours you adulterated alcohol. And that's what this thread is about.
Several gamblers here, some of them old hands, have had the same symptoms/mistakes and therefore doubt the authenticity of the procedures.
What exactly makes you so sure that Manipulation is not possible?
Why do you categorically exclude fraud?
I think that nobody here categorically excludes fraud. In the meantime, however, fraud is categorically assumed here and the whole thing is built only and exclusively on bogus correlations.
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I am of the opinion that this is the only starting point for thinking about manipulation. That's the crux of the matter
The slots must be programmed somehow, no company is so stupid and simply risks that tens of thousands of spins on 20c no wins come and then when someone bets 20€ at once FS come with 3000x
But the Risk would be given if in fact each spin would stand alone with the same probability of winning
So in my opinion, the RTP MUST run extra for each bet amount. And then it can actually no longer be pure chance
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I've never heard of a provider going out of business either. Instead, small providers are usually bought out, possibly they will eventually buy out the corner store BTG.
With casinos it looks quite different, see -> {link removed}
Some important factors are missing in the article, namely the tax rate per spin. Because every spin causes costs for the casino. Theoretically, a player can do a lot of damage if he would have a balance of several 10,000€, but has a maximum cashout of 100€. Many Just 4 Fun players gamble away their excess casino funds, unaware that they are incurring massive unnecessary costs.
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That makes sense!
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And why do you still play when everything is a lie and a scam? Except blackmamba gives no one ne answer to it?
Sorry but I do not get it ?
If you are so convinced, I would not spend a cent
The Online Casinos have been around for so long, and no manager reveals the scandal or gives out information? Why do not the Curacao casinos get a mga license and earn with?
No matter everyone thinks what he wants and plays as much as he wants, but please do not post more pictures with runs and still runs to cry crocodile tears again, because that does not fit together
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The problem is that everyone always puts it as he would like to. If one loses, it is the bad casinos. If you win, then you were very lucky
I don't blame the discount store around the corner for buying too much chocolate. I also don't blame the pub landlord if I get a drinking problem.
It's too easy in this area to say they're manipulating. Because my money is gone and therefore it must be manipulated. There is no other reason for it. For God's sake, not your own addiction!
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I don't think so. Do you have any info on this?
I think rather the pay in the month a sum X to the Provider to be allowed to offer this
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I will give you a link later. But in principle you are also right, yet the casino itself decides what Deposit offer they offer the player. This results in extra costs that the casino has to bear. There is also a technical term for these "turnover costs" per spin. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with it right now, but I'll give it to you later!
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But you would make terror with the landlord if he pours you adulterated alcohol. And that's what this thread is about.
Several gamblers here, some of them old hands, have had the same symptoms/mistakes and therefore doubt the authenticity of the processes.
What exactly makes you so sure that Manipulation is not possible?
Why do you categorically exclude fraud?
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You are just stuck
Why do you think the doubters pay in so much???
Probably because one can say only after several deposits that there is something wrong.
I'll even leave out the addiction/greed factor.
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I think that nobody here categorically excludes fraud. In the meantime, however, fraud is categorically assumed here and the whole thing is built only and exclusively on bogus correlations.
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