To enlighten a bit about the RTP, I'll quote myself from this post: https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/es-wird-langsam-lacherlich-95589/8/
It is almost unbelievable how much half-knowledge and disoriented assumptions are made about the RTP, even though you are on the Internet...
A RTP also does not "level off" or so...
Here are some facts about the topic that you can find in the Return to Player - Directive from 2016.
46A.(1) A licensee offering games using repetitivelygenerated random selection for determining winning combinationsto players shall ensure that, in accordance with the way in whichthe game is designed, the licensee shall pay out on average a prizeamounting to ninety two per centum (92%) or more of the money ormoney's worth wagered, or any such higher percentage as may be stipulated through a condition of the licence.
The licensee of games that use a (simply put) Random Number Generator must ensure that the player's win AVERAGE is 92% of the single bet placed. Since the MGA speaks of an average value, related to the individual bet, we also need the Y-axis... or a time period to which this average refers (logically, then only the average of all staked values of the bets is to be taken)
The Authority may, in determining whether a licensee is compliant with the average percentage returned to the players as prizes as set out in regulation 46A of the Regulations:a. in the case where a licensee offers a number of applicable gameswhich can be classified into categories by virtue of their similarity or use of the same random number or symbol generator, take an average across a category of such applicable games offered by the licensee , provided that the classification of a number of games into a category for the purposes of this section shall be subject to the Authority's approval;andb.determine the particular period of time or a particular number of actual or simulated plays through which to calculate the average percentage returned to the players as prizes, provided that unless specified otherwiseby the Authority, a period of one calendar year shall be used to determine the average percentage returned to the players as prizes.
The calculation of the RTP refers to a period of one year! And not on a single game... but the average payout ALL offered games with the same category of the random generator (to what extent the slots are categorized can not be traced). And what is still very very important. This RTP... that refers to a licensee and not to the website!
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15th Oct. 2019, at 11:45 pm CEST#12
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well, I can only say the exact opposite about VS. For me it is the only OC where I am in the plus for over 2 years and an average RTP of ü 100% - even if you may not believe it. Nevertheless, I also have long dry spells - often more than 30-40 deposits - and then always came unexpectedly again somewhere a hit. Despite this experience I use VS only partially - I know meanwhile that the feeding phases can drag on well over months if not up to a year. I have mostly won after a longer CoolDown time - not directly - but mostly so with the 4-5th Deposit afterwards. That I have me times in my deposit - payout statistics rausklabüstert. It seems to me just like a lure. Currently again at 3 month break until Christmas - and as long as it remains dense.
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16th Oct. 2019, at 12:15 am CEST#13
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So the thread and the claim with the Blacklist is times absolutely off. I also criticize VS, because of the story with the RTP...OK that's one thing. But the OC is absolutely serious and one of the best stores there is. Also at VS the games are only hosted and the OC has ZERO influence on the game outcome.
If you lose for a while, it can happen, then you just play somewhere else or make a break and that's it!
1MillBankRoll wrote on 10/15/2019 at 10:28 pm
For people who don't go to work and get "kept" 14 k is a lot, I totally agree! Others get 15k net Bonuses a year which they also like to spend so stop blathering something about "unsalvageable" here.
Generally I would "recommend" you to choose a young casino with MGA license. With these mentioned deposits you are directly classified as "VIP" and withdrawals go out faster (after first verification) than with non-VIPs, and possible withdrawal limits or times do not affect VIPs.
With all the players here, I often can't understand why the big casinos are always chosen. RTP is often lower on popular slots and "you" are a small number. At new casinos "you" are a big number with your deposits, while "you" are considered average at the big casinos.
That's my "recommendation", don't necessarily go with the wave here. Believe me, when a VIP is unhappy, the hut burns at young casinos and that comes your way.
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16th Oct. 2019, at 12:23 am CEST#15
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So I can absolutely understand your frustration, I was exactly the same, had not a single Auszhalung in the period where I played there, the only casino which erased me even more, was Leo Vegas. I got permanently banned from both. Wish you good luck, that soon times what good can pay out.
illmnzi wrote on 10/15/2019 at 10:53 pm: To educate a bit about the RTP I'll quote myself from this post: https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/es-wird-langsam-lacherlich-95589/8/
Whereas the post has already been answered and it is not 100% correct. The 92% is what should be paid out to players on average and not what a player has to get paid out on average. If you have an RTP of 87% in the casino then the casino will not transfer money after a year to bring you to 92%.
The TE has a RTP of 90+% as he mentions himself, he confuses it with the payout ratio and that is significantly lower for many and the 20% can fit there under certain circumstances. For this you can compare deposits and withdrawals and can also check with the account statements of your own bank if you do not want to believe it.
The long time nothing goes is not impossible, somewhere have to be financed even the big wins. Therefore, it makes sense to have a limit, otherwise you often try to get something out to the last cent. Now you should realize how bad the online game can be, believe me you are not the only one with the vast sums there without anything flowed through. The money sometimes flows through so fast with extremely many dead spins and free spins giving almost nothing. It's like all the winning systems have been turned off.
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If you lose for a while, it can happen, then you just play somewhere else or make a break and that's it!
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Generally I would "recommend" you to choose a young casino with MGA license. With these mentioned deposits you are directly classified as "VIP" and withdrawals go out faster (after first verification) than with non-VIPs, and possible withdrawal limits or times do not affect VIPs.
With all the players here, I often can't understand why the big casinos are always chosen. RTP is often lower on popular slots and "you" are a small number. At new casinos "you" are a big number with your deposits, while "you" are considered average at the big casinos.
That's my "recommendation", don't necessarily go with the wave here. Believe me, when a VIP is unhappy, the hut burns at young casinos and that comes your way.
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And once again Videoslots...
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And once again Videoslots...
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Whereas the post has already been answered and it is not 100% correct. The 92% is what should be paid out to players on average and not what a player has to get paid out on average. If you have an RTP of 87% in the casino then the casino will not transfer money after a year to bring you to 92%.
The TE has a RTP of 90+% as he mentions himself, he confuses it with the payout ratio and that is significantly lower for many and the 20% can fit there under certain circumstances. For this you can compare deposits and withdrawals and can also check with the account statements of your own bank if you do not want to believe it.
The long time nothing goes is not impossible, somewhere have to be financed even the big wins. Therefore, it makes sense to have a limit, otherwise you often try to get something out to the last cent. Now you should realize how bad the online game can be, believe me you are not the only one with the vast sums there without anything flowed through. The money sometimes flows through so fast with extremely many dead spins and free spins giving almost nothing. It's like all the winning systems have been turned off.
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