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Other Casino games: That's it for casinos and streamers (Page 20)

Topic created on 07th Oct. 2018 | Page: 20 of 33 | Answers: 327 | Views: 81,364
pascalst
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That's it for casinos and streamers

12th Oct. 2018, at 09:58 pm CEST#191
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Tropper wrote on 12/10/2018 at 16:33: So, to my thesis that Shirox cooperate with the providers....
He now buys like a madman Dark Vortex, the free spins... before that he played thousands at beeswarm and before that jamming shit with the jams...
He is deliberately promoting the slots!!! He gets paid for it and I can imagine that he also gets sent videos or whatever. Or, that it just goes better, or he plays with money, which he gets back or or...

Are you being intentionally stupid now?
It was about this post of yours. There you claim that Shirox would make common cause with the providers and get paid for playing the new slots.
Or how should I understand that? And he definitely doesn't get any videos sent to him. You can see in each of his videos on YouTube that it's from his stream

He is in the picture and the chat is visible. What kind of brazen crap are you actually claiming here?
If someone should be blocked here, then probably rather those who constantly make impudent claims without even being able to prove anything of it.

On the subject of respect, I can tell you this
You have to earn it and I don't care how long you have been registered here and how many posts you have written.
It's the content that matters, not the amount of posts.

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upola
Legend

That's it for casinos and streamers

12th Oct. 2018, at 10:06 pm CEST#192
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Too bad that skrie is no longer there, that would have been interesting.

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Tropper
Top Member

That's it for casinos and streamers

12th Oct. 2018, at 10:15 pm CEST#193
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pascalst wrote on 10/12/2018 at 9:58 pm
Are you deliberately playing dumb now?
This post of yours was the point. There you claim, Shirox would make common cause with the providers and get paid for playing the new slots.
Or how should I understand that? And he definitely doesn't get any videos sent to him. You can see in each of his videos on YouTube that it's from his stream

He is in the picture and the chat is visible. What kind of brazen crap are you actually claiming here?
If someone should be blocked here, then probably rather those who constantly make impudent claims without even being able to prove anything of it.

On the subject of respect, I can tell you this
You have to earn it and I don't care how long you have been registered here and how many posts you have written.
It's the content that matters, not the amount of posts.

Then read through the entire thread and not just the last 3 pages. This theory did not come from me but from one of the admins.

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pascalst
Rookie

That's it for casinos and streamers

12th Oct. 2018, at 10:21 pm CEST#194
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Tropper wrote on 10/12/2018 at 10:15 pm
Then read through the entire thread and not just the last 3 pages. This theory did not come from me but from one of the admins.

For sure the admins don't claim that streamers are paid by slot providers and slots are manipulated. You are absolutely untrustworthy.
I can't read through this thread anymore, there is too much bullshit here and it gives me a headache.

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Anonym

That's it for casinos and streamers

12th Oct. 2018, at 10:49 pm CEST#195
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pascalst wrote on 12/10/2018 at 22:21
For sure the admins don't claim that streamers are paid by slot providers and slots are manipulated. You have absolutely no credibility.
I can't read through this thread anymore either, there's too much bullshit here by now and it gives me a headache.

Then just stay away from the thread

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K****t

That's it for casinos and streamers

12th Oct. 2018, at 10:59 pm CEST#196
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pascalst, will you please explain to us where you got your foolhardy insights, where your alleged knowledge comes from?
Are you a Streamer, do you know streamers personally, are you somehow active behind the scenes somewhere in this field?
What is it that makes you react so emotionally, as if you are being attacked in your personal honor?
Tell us. Share your evidence with us.
Only by unsubstantiated assertions and insults you will convince nobody in any form.

Also, please read the first two posts of Daniel here. And then insult further.

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Daniel
Elite

That's it for casinos and streamers

12th Oct. 2018, at 11:38 pm CEST#197
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Ankor wrote on 10/12/2018 at 7:05 PM
Casino Daddy: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/317741243
Shirox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12NuwoDRVo

Very interesting I think, the spins before seem to be the same too. But vllt. I didn't pay attention properly.

I watched the videos. Thank God I didn't have to watch a 2 hour stream to get to the crucial part.


So the spins before were completely different. Shirox had a small win just before this and the other combinations before this winning picture were also completely different.

In other words, these slots work on the scratch card principle. There are 1.3 million combinations that are predetermined. Quasi a Pot with 1.3 million lots or possibilities.

Now, when a player clicks the start button, a number is drawn (randomly) from the Random Number Generator and the result appears regardless of the bet. Logically, because otherwise the winning picture could not have come on different high stakes. And logically, each spin is random, because otherwise the spins before would have been exactly the same.

So far, everything is good and the game can be called fair. However, the whole thing has a bitter aftertaste and that is that the slot suggests far higher wins than are actually achievable. And here again, there is a lack of transparency on the part of the game manufacturer

I can buy online Scratch cards, but I know exactly what I can expect in the best case for maximum wins. This is not the case with games like Jamin Jars, Moon Princess, etc., even though they work on the same principle.

The only question that remains open is, how can it happen that two people, who are also both streamers, get the same winning picture, when the chances of getting the same winning picture are 1:1.3 million. One would have to play 45 days continuously. I had written 450 days at the beginning, as I assumed 1:13 million and with those odds it would have actually been impossible. But even so, the chances of getting the same winning picture are relatively low but not as impossible as I thought at the beginning.

In any case, the Youtuber Risikocasino was fed winning videos from OVO Casino or Quasar Gaming at the time (that's a fact) - winning videos of other players' scores.

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K****t

That's it for casinos and streamers

13th Oct. 2018, at 12:06 am CEST#198
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Daniel wrote on 10/12/2018 at 11:38 pm


Anyway (that's a fact) winning videos from OVO Casino or Quasar Gaming were leaked to the Youtuber Risk Casino at the time - winning videos of other players' scores.

And why are all assumptions that OCs cheat always shot down by you here?
Probably on the grounds that a player has won this amount before, right?
How do you know that? It could have been a win with play money. It could also have been set by the provider.
How is it possible that a Streamer clicks on Spin and actually plays a video, not the slot itself, if it is a winning video of another player?
They always say providers and/or OCs can't cheat and manipulate.
It has been proven that they can.

It is still so unlikely that two streamers have the same, identical winning picture that it is no longer possible to speak of coincidence. Moreover, within one week.
There is also nothing to see or to gloss over

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Anonym

That's it for casinos and streamers

13th Oct. 2018, at 12:21 am CEST#199
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Coffee Light wrote on 10/13/2018 at 00:06 AM
And why then all the assumptions that OCs cheat are always shot down by you guys here?
Probably on the grounds that yes, a player may well have won that amount before, right?
How do you know that? It could have been a win with play money. It could also have been set by the provider.
How is it possible that a Streamer clicks on Spin and actually plays a video, not the slot itself, if it is a winning video of another player?
They always say providers and/or OCs can't cheat and manipulate.
It has been proven that they can.

It is still so unlikely that two streamers have the same, identical winning picture that it is no longer possible to speak of coincidence. Moreover, within one week.
There is also nothing to see or to gloss over.

Is it not almost 2 weeks? On October 3 Casino Daddy and on September 22 Shirox.

They already play the slots extremely often and also spin a lot. It is not impossible. I am totally with you when you say that Manipulation is possible. But, if you have such great concerns why are you still playing there?

It is a matter of trust, isn't it? So far I have not found any casino to be particularly conspicuous. Everywhere after about 2000 spins the RTP is at least over 70% and often in the 90% range. Even if streamers cheat - it does not have to have an effect on us. Many say Videoslots never runs or "differently", but it is certain that our opinion is mainly formed by how much the casino returns.

There is no clear evidence of cheating, because everything can be explained with the word "coincidence". It is important to write to the supervisory authority, which can check assumptions correctly and turn them into facts. The problem is that most of them are not interested in changes in the sense of the players and like to avoid work. It would be important to see which licenses have an authority that have more than copy paste answers or more than copied terms and conditions. MGA is highly praised, but they are very lax in terms of controls.

What you have to say is that durcv this video nothing has changed. The casinos do not run or run exactly as before!

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pascalst
Rookie

That's it for casinos and streamers

13th Oct. 2018, at 01:25 am CEST#200
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The two videos, Dreamcatcher and Jammin Jars, provide no evidence of fraud. That's a fact, even if many here would like to pin something on the casinos.
The streamers, in this case Shirox and CasinoDaddy, have played tens of thousands of spins in turbo mode in Jammin Jars since its release.
Taking that into account, it's also not that unlikely anymore that both streamers would get the same winning pictures with the way the slot works as described by Daniel.
There's not much to say about Dreamcatcher and ChapMad's video either. There is a malfunction, the wheel is not slowed down and the round is canceled.

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