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Online Casinos in general: StarGames experience (Page 100)

Topic created on 04th Jan. 2022 | Page: 100 of 166 | Answers: 1,650 | Views: 206,106
Iknowyou
Experienced

StarGames experience

29th Nov. 2023, at 03:54 pm CET#994
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I'm curious to see when the discussion about RTP will finally stop and you can just play for fun and not have to question everything

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StarGames_Official
Experienced

StarGames experience

29th Nov. 2023, at 04:44 pm CET#995
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mtorero wrote on 29.11.2023 at 15:47:
Every turn 20cents (bet) + 1cent(tax) is deducted from my balance. No more and no less, but the higher Rtp. This has been the case at Platincasino for the last two years, for example, and the gameplay, playing time and winning opportunities were absolutely not the same as when playing 87-90% Rtp. If this is not the case according to the German license, then the games here apparently do not run randomly like in real casinos and the Rtp is calculated differently. There will also be a reason why these licensed establishments are not allowed to call themselves casinos, but only gaming arcades, because this no longer has much to do with real gambling.

I don't like the apple comparison, I see it more like this:
Politicians, in consultation with all car sellers in the country, decide that Dacia is the only car that can be sold at a fixed price of 100,000 euros. The huge profit margin is shared with the state through a usury tax. However, if a car seller is found who would be satisfied with a smaller win and offers a Ferrari for 100,000 euros, he will be prosecuted and the buyer, who wanted a fairer offer for his hard-earned money, will be prosecuted. Unfortunately, human greed knows no bounds.

Your comments no longer contain facts, only feelings, assumptions, speculation and conspiracy theories. When we can talk about facts again, let us know.

RTP and the configuration with tax deducted separately are mathematical terms that can be calculated and proven. If we present this to you and confirm that the two systems are actually identical, and you argue that it feels like it worked better for casinos, then we can no longer make any arguments here.

At the end of the day, it is gambling and in both cases there is a Random Number Generator in the background. Of course, you can be in the black for years in a casino (even in a German-licensed one with a lower RTP). We also have players like that. And you can also be in a big minus in another casino with 95% RTP + tax per spin.

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CashOut
Experienced

StarGames experience

29th Nov. 2023, at 05:50 pm CET#996
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Iknowyou wrote on 29.11.2023 at 15:54: I'm curious when the discussion about RTP will finally stop and you can just gamble for fun and not have to question everything

Gambling for fun is only guaranteed if you have the chance to win.

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gamble1
Legend

StarGames experience

30th Nov. 2023, at 03:20 am CET#997
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Iknowyou wrote on 29.11.2023 at 15:54: I'm curious when the discussion about RTP will finally stop and you can just gamble for fun and not have to question everything

I would say when you have a reasonable regulation where you don't have to question anything


There are pages and pages of discussion here about two variants that are essentially the same, namely dirt! It should be much more the customers and the providers together to see the essentials, namely how the state coffers are filled here at the expense of all of us and exactly 0.0 interest is shown in the opinion of the people for whom all decision-makers actually work

If the regulation were to be revised sensibly, such issues would take care of themselves, but by the time this thing is fair, we will all have given up gambling and the DE casinos will be insolvent

The casinos are not our enemies in this issue, nor is the regulation in and of itself, but the problem is the outrageous wishful thinking in its implementation

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Stromberg
Legend

StarGames experience

30th Nov. 2023, at 07:52 am CET#998
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gamble1 wrote on 30.11.2023 at 03:20:
I would say if you have a reasonable regulation where you don't have to question anything


There are pages and pages of discussion here about two variants that are essentially completely the same, namely dirt! It should be much more the customers and the providers together to see the essentials, namely how the state coffers are filled here at the expense of all of us and exactly 0.0 interest is shown in the opinion of the people for whom all decision-makers actually work

If the regulation were to be revised sensibly, such issues would take care of themselves, but by the time this thing is fair, we will all have given up gambling and the DE casinos will be insolvent

The casinos are not our enemies in this matter, nor is the regulation in and of itself, but the problem is the outrageous wishful thinking in implementing it

I fear that neither gambling will be abandoned nor will the regulation be seriously changed in the foreseeable future, at least as far as taxation is concerned.
People have never given up gambling in a spielo and I don't think the rtp is any higher.


That's why there's a discussion about 2 possible ways to make it a bit better.
And in my opinion, that seems to be the higher rtp plus tax. Despite all the calculations, I am convinced of this.

N1 Casino etc. have also applied this taxation and I am relatively sure that they have done better there than in a casino with 87 /90 percent rtp...

But I also see it this way, the casino is not the enemy... Even if it would be nice to be a bit more in competition with each other in terms of rtp... 😄But most players just don't seem to mind, thinking 1 or 2 percent doesn't matter. Otherwise I can't explain why Tipico Games offers 84 percent at playngo.

If at least the normal savings mentality would come into play and such stores would be completely avoided and only the ones with the best AQ would be played... 😄

In principle, however, I agree with you that only a change in taxation could solve the problem...

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Toastbrot
Amateur

StarGames experience

1st Dec. 2023, at 12:51 am CET#999
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Is there actually a reason why Captain Venture now has a minimum stake of 20 cents and no longer 10? It feels like there are now many free spins without extension, which was quite different last week. at least I personally felt there was a clear difference.

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T0uchTheSky
Elite

StarGames experience

1st Dec. 2023, at 01:12 am CET#1000
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Regulation has nothing at all to do with Player protection, because because of the regulation many people are now running to the Curacao booths where they don't know whether they will get their money.

The best casinos such as Videoslots, Betsson and co. have disappeared from the German market, at these casinos you never had to worry about not getting your wins. I never used to gamble at Curacao casinos, except for the first online casino where I was scammed, since then only casinos with an MGA license and almost never had a problem. And now I am forced to gamble almost exclusively at the Curacao booths or I would have to stop gambling.

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Tigerbaby2004
Rookie

StarGames experience

1st Dec. 2023, at 08:52 am CET#1001
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I'm really annoyed with the store. I've already had several smaller withdrawals of 50-100 euros. The money was always there within 5 minutes via Neteller. I assume the payout process is automated.
Now it's 300, which is really not a large sum. Now the chat support says it has to be checked first. In the meantime I've been waiting 24 hours. There is also no answer to email inquiries.
What do they suddenly have to check? Whether their account is covered for the transfer, or what is this? I can't stand such business practices at all. I attach great importance to everything being processed quickly and reliably, especially when making payments.

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evopower140
Expert

StarGames experience

1st Dec. 2023, at 09:41 am CET#1002
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Tigerbaby2004 wrote on 01.12.2023 at 08:52: I'm really annoyed about this store. Already had several smaller payouts of 50-100 euros. The money was always there within 5 minutes via Neteller. I assume the payout process is automated.
Now it's 300, which is really not a large sum. Now the chat support says it has to be checked first. In the meantime I've been waiting 24 hours. There is also no answer to email inquiries.
What do they suddenly have to check? Whether their account is covered for the transfer, or what is this? I can't stand such business practices at all. I attach great importance to everything being processed quickly and reliably, especially when making payments.

I agree with you!


Especially when it comes to payouts, I'm very picky, no matter how good the bonus offer is, and if the payout isn't processed in at least 3 hours, I won't play anymore because there's no chance - that's the point that stands above all others in the OC world for me.

Oh, how dare those days with Rizk, Mrgreen, Videoslots, Mrvegas, you didn't even have a second's doubt, no matter what the amount.

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StarGames_Official
Experienced

StarGames experience

1st Dec. 2023, at 11:22 am CET#1003
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Tigerbaby2004 wrote on 01.12.2023 at 08:52: I'm really annoyed about this store. Already had several smaller payouts of 50-100 euros. The money was always there within 5 minutes via Neteller. I assume the payout process is automated.
Now it's 300, which is really not a large sum. Now the chat support says it has to be checked first. In the meantime I've been waiting 24 hours. There is also no answer to email inquiries.
What do they suddenly have to check? Whether their account is covered for the transfer, or what is this? I can't stand such business practices at all. I attach great importance to everything being processed quickly and reliably, especially when it comes to payouts.

We already answered this for another player 2 days ago in this thread, but I'd be happy to do it again.

We have an automated system that releases the payouts. Most payouts are released automatically.

However, there are some rules set here that forward certain payouts for manual review. These are either required for us by law, or are in your and our interest (protection against fraud, money laundering etc.). We cannot and may not publish which rules these are in a forum.

As these manual checks are carried out by our agents, they can take up to 48 hours. As a rule, the times are of course shorter and we transfer the payouts the following day, but our official communication is 48 hours.

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