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Manipulation?! What do you think?
5th May. 2018, at 10:43 am CEST#21
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A casino worker at a casino I know well always tells me which slots are doing well,
or in which slots a lot of money has just flowed.
This is not a guarantee, but it increases the chance of winning.
In return, he gets more tips with a call attendant.
And he does that for sure not only with me.
So if you think casino employees are as straightforward as their terms and conditions, you are wrong.
No matter whether real, telephone, chat or email. Of course there are such and such, like everywhere.
On the subject of fraud or this strange incident.
This is exactly what I have been saying for years. None of us have ever seen a server.
How it is built etc. The masses don't know anything about it.
They can tell us a lot, but whether it's true is another matter.
I have also never seen a printout, whether everything is really right.
And whether the RTP is really true to the advertised, or whether it is significantly less.
Percentages make a lot of money. And every percent less brings money.
That's what I meant by transparency. We have to rely on some statements without ever having any
ever have any proof. We complain to the MGA, but we don't know what kind of documents are
documents are flying back and forth. Whether they are falsified, what kind of documents they are in the first place, etc.
We have no insight into anything at all. And in such cases, the door is always open to fraud
Is always open to fraud. In principle, they do whatever they want with us.
And that's why I'm so extremely critical of OC.
Zero transparency, and we rely on alleged RTP`s, that everything has to do with chance and luck,
and that everything is safe. Has anyone ever seen any proof of this?
Above all, it is the most ingenious rip-off system of all time. If someone complains, then he has just
Had bad luck. That's it...
And strangely enough, everyone is satisfied with that statement.
In the real world, prices are compared thousands of times to see if you can get an item in real life or on the Internet for
a few euros cheaper gets. Every cent is looked at.
But if in the online slot 100 euros rattle down without free spins, then you just had bad luck.
Ingenious!
When I get the property tax from the municipality, it's broken down exactly how the bill comes about
comes about. It's still a rip-off, but it's understandable.
With the casino, I have the feeling of being ripped off without being able to understand it.
And instead of providing more transparency, they are even more silent, which of course feeds the suspicion of fraud
the fraud suspicion nourishes. But the casinos themselves are to blame for this.
Maybe they really are cheating, and that's exactly why everything should remain so nebulous....
No one knows.
stkrie wrote on 05/05/2018 at 10:43: A casino worker at a casino I know well always tells me which slots are doing well,
or rather in which slots a lot of money has just flowed.
It's not a guarantee, but it increases the chance of winning.
In return, he gets more tips with a call attendant.
And he does that for sure not only with me.
So if you think casino employees are as straightforward as their terms and conditions, you are wrong.
No matter whether real, telephone, chat or email. Of course there are such and such, like everywhere.
On the subject of fraud or this strange incident.
This is exactly what I have been saying for years. None of us have ever seen a server.
How it is built etc. The masses don't know anything about it.
They can tell us a lot, but whether it's true is another matter.
I have also never seen a printout, whether everything is really right.
And whether the RTP is really true to the advertised, or whether it is significantly less.
Percentages make a lot of money. And every percent less brings money.
That's what I meant by transparency. We have to rely on some statements without ever having any
ever have any proof. We complain to the MGA, but we don't know what kind of documents are
documents are flying back and forth. Whether they are falsified, what kind of documents they are in the first place, etc.
We have no insight into anything at all. And in such cases, the door is always open to fraud
Is always open to fraud. In principle, they do whatever they want with us.
And that's why I'm so extremely critical of OC.
Zero transparency, and we rely on alleged RTP`s, that everything has to do with chance and luck,
and that everything is safe. Has anyone ever seen any proof of this?
Above all, it is the most ingenious rip-off system of all time. If someone complains, then he has just
Had bad luck. That's it...
And strangely enough, everyone is satisfied with that statement.
In the real world, prices are compared thousands of times to see if you can get an item in real life or on the Internet for
a few euros cheaper gets. Every cent is looked at.
But if in the online slot 100 euros rattle down without free spins, then you just had bad luck.
Ingenious!
When I get the property tax from the municipality, it's broken down exactly how the bill comes about
comes about. It's still a rip-off, but it's understandable.
With the casino, I have the feeling of being ripped off without being able to understand it.
And instead of providing more transparency, they are even more silent, which of course feeds the suspicion of fraud
the fraud suspicion nourishes. But the casinos themselves are to blame for this.
Maybe they really are cheating, and that's exactly why everything should remain so nebulous....
No one knows.
Really good text.
Especially the one about buying in the real world.
Since you really look and think carefully, whether you need it.
And when gambling because you hit a 50 after the other away and still 100ni and another.
Stop saying that the streamers are always lucky that's not true at all. You just have to watch the streams longer. If you pay 500-1000 euros every day then you would have just as many big hits.
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5th May. 2018, at 11:29 am CEST#24
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I have a question about this. The MGA distributes the licenses and monitors the casinos, so to speak. But who supervises the doings of the MGA? Is there a state authority that has an eye on it or can the MGA do what it wants?
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Manipulation?! What do you think?
5th May. 2018, at 11:41 am CEST#25
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@Marqes
I always compare the prices
I always compare it with a guy you don't know and you give him 100 euros.
He bets your money on e.g. soccer bets.
After some time you meet again
Sometimes he has more money with him, most of the time he says that the money is gone.
Then it just went badly. Bad luck, he says then.
Sometimes he says, you won big, but he bet too big, and you can't do that, so the money you won is gone
the money you won is gone.
Sometimes he says that it takes longer with the payment, I must first give him my ID card
first. Then he comes back and says they didn't accept it.
They need other documents. We can continue betting with the money we have won
with the money we won. They allow us to do that, even though they didn't accept the documents.
Instead of freezing the money, because the documents for whatever reason do not fit, and thus
the initial suspicion of the offence against the AGB`s exists,
we are allowed to continue gambling with the money. Very nice.
He never shows you a betting slip. You actually do not know what he
what he's doing. You have no receipts, no proof, nothing.
Would you put up with something like that? Wouldn't you report the guy?
That's what we do every day!
With our money!
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Manipulation?! What do you think?
5th May. 2018, at 11:46 am CEST#26
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Thanks for the numerous opinions on this... think that speaks for my decision. For my part, I'm out of the machine for now.
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5th May. 2018, at 11:46 am CEST#27
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5th May. 2018, at 02:25 pm CEST#28
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Samira wrote on 05/05/2018 at 11:46 am: Thanks for the numerous opinions on this... think that speaks for my decision. I for one am out of the machine for now.
Is also the only thing that remains for you. I do not care if it is a scam or not...
Wins of several thousand Euros speak another language. Besides, no one knows anything here anyway - as always speculation and babble.
There remains only one thing: Play or do not play, period!
Whether now of the casino employees someone what knows or not, changes nevertheless nothing at all.
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Manipulation?! What do you think?
5th May. 2018, at 03:02 pm CEST#29
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Wins of several thousand euros do not speak at all.
Of course, there are people who win, otherwise there would be too much
negative reports, and the casinos could close down.
That you don't care if people cheat or not is of course clever.
One of the best and most intelligent statements I have ever heard.
Just because you won?
The one has nothing to do with the other, that you should know in your age!
Know that at your age!
In addition, it is a question of character, whether one lets this hang out here in such a way
or not
If it is true at all.
But sooner or later you too will end up in the red or quit.
Will you still care then?
Incidentally, the whole forum is speculation to the mass!
Only times to the info!
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5th May. 2018, at 05:01 pm CEST#30
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stkrie wrote on 05/05/2018 at 15:02: Wins of several thousand euros do not speak at all.
Of course there are Mneschen who win, otherwise there would be too much
negative reports, and the casinos could close down.
That you don't care if people cheat or not is of course clever.
One of the best and most intelligent statements I have ever heard.
Just because you won?
The one has nothing to do with the other, that you should know in your age!
Know that at your age!
In addition, it is a question of character, whether one lets this hang out here in such a way
or not
If it is true at all.
But sooner or later you too will end up in the red or quit.
Will you still care then?
Incidentally, the whole forum is speculation to the mass!
Only times to the info!
Then tell me, you wise guy, what you want to do about it except stop playing?
The whole world is full of rip-offs, corruption and so on. You can kind of draw your own conclusion about what you can do about it.
For me there are more important things than to worry about rip-offs in the casino especially when I can't even prove it 100 per cent and also had big wins more often...what's the point?
Since we are all old enough, we play (win vll now and then also large sums) or do not play (lose also nothing and do not upset us). It's up to everyone, isn't it?
If everything would be 100% balanced in the casinos, they would certainly not make millions...that's just the way it is. Gamblers are just stupid and put their money in there. Casinos only make the most of it and may be morally attacked for possible tactics, as they do.
Vw (and probably many other car companies) have also cheated and manipulated. Is that why you don't see Vws on the roads anymore? It just doesn't itch...and even that I personally find more awesome than this casino story.
If you think it's a rip-off, don't play anymore and that's it. There is hardly any other way.
Manipulation?! What do you think?
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or in which slots a lot of money has just flowed.
This is not a guarantee, but it increases the chance of winning.
In return, he gets more tips with a call attendant.
And he does that for sure not only with me.
So if you think casino employees are as straightforward as their terms and conditions, you are wrong.
No matter whether real, telephone, chat or email. Of course there are such and such, like everywhere.
On the subject of fraud or this strange incident.
This is exactly what I have been saying for years. None of us have ever seen a server.
How it is built etc. The masses don't know anything about it.
They can tell us a lot, but whether it's true is another matter.
I have also never seen a printout, whether everything is really right.
And whether the RTP is really true to the advertised, or whether it is significantly less.
Percentages make a lot of money. And every percent less brings money.
That's what I meant by transparency. We have to rely on some statements without ever having any
ever have any proof. We complain to the MGA, but we don't know what kind of documents are
documents are flying back and forth. Whether they are falsified, what kind of documents they are in the first place, etc.
We have no insight into anything at all. And in such cases, the door is always open to fraud
Is always open to fraud. In principle, they do whatever they want with us.
And that's why I'm so extremely critical of OC.
Zero transparency, and we rely on alleged RTP`s, that everything has to do with chance and luck,
and that everything is safe. Has anyone ever seen any proof of this?
Above all, it is the most ingenious rip-off system of all time. If someone complains, then he has just
Had bad luck. That's it...
And strangely enough, everyone is satisfied with that statement.
In the real world, prices are compared thousands of times to see if you can get an item in real life or on the Internet for
a few euros cheaper gets. Every cent is looked at.
But if in the online slot 100 euros rattle down without free spins, then you just had bad luck.
Ingenious!
When I get the property tax from the municipality, it's broken down exactly how the bill comes about
comes about. It's still a rip-off, but it's understandable.
With the casino, I have the feeling of being ripped off without being able to understand it.
And instead of providing more transparency, they are even more silent, which of course feeds the suspicion of fraud
the fraud suspicion nourishes. But the casinos themselves are to blame for this.
Maybe they really are cheating, and that's exactly why everything should remain so nebulous....
No one knows.
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Really good text.
Especially the one about buying in the real world.
Since you really look and think carefully, whether you need it.
And when gambling because you hit a 50 after the other away and still 100ni and another.
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I always compare the prices
I always compare it with a guy you don't know and you give him 100 euros.
He bets your money on e.g. soccer bets.
After some time you meet again
Sometimes he has more money with him, most of the time he says that the money is gone.
Then it just went badly. Bad luck, he says then.
Sometimes he says, you won big, but he bet too big, and you can't do that, so the money you won is gone
the money you won is gone.
Sometimes he says that it takes longer with the payment, I must first give him my ID card
first. Then he comes back and says they didn't accept it.
They need other documents. We can continue betting with the money we have won
with the money we won. They allow us to do that, even though they didn't accept the documents.
Instead of freezing the money, because the documents for whatever reason do not fit, and thus
the initial suspicion of the offence against the AGB`s exists,
we are allowed to continue gambling with the money. Very nice.
He never shows you a betting slip. You actually do not know what he
what he's doing. You have no receipts, no proof, nothing.
Would you put up with something like that? Wouldn't you report the guy?
That's what we do every day!
With our money!
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Is also the only thing that remains for you. I do not care if it is a scam or not...
Wins of several thousand Euros speak another language. Besides, no one knows anything here anyway - as always speculation and babble.
There remains only one thing: Play or do not play, period!
Whether now of the casino employees someone what knows or not, changes nevertheless nothing at all.
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Manipulation?! What do you think?
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Of course, there are people who win, otherwise there would be too much
negative reports, and the casinos could close down.
That you don't care if people cheat or not is of course clever.
One of the best and most intelligent statements I have ever heard.
Just because you won?
The one has nothing to do with the other, that you should know in your age!
Know that at your age!
In addition, it is a question of character, whether one lets this hang out here in such a way
or not
If it is true at all.
But sooner or later you too will end up in the red or quit.
Will you still care then?
Incidentally, the whole forum is speculation to the mass!
Only times to the info!
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Then tell me, you wise guy, what you want to do about it except stop playing?
The whole world is full of rip-offs, corruption and so on. You can kind of draw your own conclusion about what you can do about it.
For me there are more important things than to worry about rip-offs in the casino especially when I can't even prove it 100 per cent and also had big wins more often...what's the point?
Since we are all old enough, we play (win vll now and then also large sums) or do not play (lose also nothing and do not upset us). It's up to everyone, isn't it?
If everything would be 100% balanced in the casinos, they would certainly not make millions...that's just the way it is. Gamblers are just stupid and put their money in there. Casinos only make the most of it and may be morally attacked for possible tactics, as they do.
Vw (and probably many other car companies) have also cheated and manipulated. Is that why you don't see Vws on the roads anymore? It just doesn't itch...and even that I personally find more awesome than this casino story.
If you think it's a rip-off, don't play anymore and that's it. There is hardly any other way.
Have a nice day.
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