kFkA (short question short answer) about online casinos
29th Jun. 2017, at 02:31 am CEST#11
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But you are also throwing around half-knowledge. I am well aware that professional Poker players who generate regular income from poker have to pay taxes. However, I was referring to Slot machines, Roulette, etc. These, like lotto, are 100% games of chance. There are no professional Slot machine players who have a proven, regular income from a special talent, as is the case with poker. Slot machine games, roulette, etc. are purely Games of chance and no taxes are due on proceeds from games of chance. It does not matter whether it is legal or illegal. Incidentally, there has not yet been a case of a legally binding conviction for participating in "illegal" online gambling. The only conviction so far was overturned in the second instance and the player got his winnings back (tax-free). It has also not yet been conclusively clarified whether the State Treaty on Gambling is compatible with European law. The state is invoking its State Treaty on Gambling and the Online Casinos are invoking the EU's freedom to provide services. Hopefully, it will soon be decided who is right in the end.
The whole story is for players, as well as for providers so far a gray area. In the opinion of my lawyer, however, players who play in online casinos without a gambling license, fake slots & bitcoins are definitely liable to prosecution under §285 StGB.
A report to the tax office is issued only from a cash receipt of 50,000€ or cash deposits from 10,000€ - however, I am not 100% sure about the sums. But with a cash receipt of 30.000€ the tax office gets definitely nothing (on automatic way).
By the way, this 183 days rule does not exist. You are taxed where you have your habitual residence. That means, if you have registered a car and an apartment in Germany, if all telephone and cell phone contracts are made to your German address and if you have most of your social contacts in Germany, then you will be taxed in Germany. It does not matter if you have a vacation home in Malta and spend 200 days a year there. The 183 days is only one of many factors. In case of doubt, it does not bring you anything, even if you live 200 days a year in another country.
To be taxed exclusively in another country you have to deregister everything, residency, cancel health Insurance, deregister car, cancel apartment or rent out if property, etc.
kFkA (short question short answer) about online casinos
29th Jun. 2017, at 02:42 am CEST#12
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Is unfortunately not true what you write here. Could you immediately prove the opposite, but that is then just already an outing and I understandably do not want - so unfortunately the point goes to you
FIFA17 wrote on 29.06.2017 at 02:42: Unfortunately not true what you write here. Could immediately prove you wrong, but that's just an outing and I understandably do not want - so the point unfortunately goes to you
An outing can sometimes also be liberating! What is not right? The gray zone story, the one with the AWV reporting requirement, the tax exemption of gambling (professional Poker players excluded) or the one with the 183 days rule? And why do you have to out yourself to prove that? Surely you are not the only one who knows what you know and you could bring any sources. I like to learn something new and I also let myself be convinced if another opinion makes sense and I gain new knowledge from it.
I wonder why it's so important to you to put these weird unlicensed Bitcoin casinos and fake slots in a positive light? If you want to play there, why not? It's your choice. I wouldn't play there and I advise my community not to for what I consider good reasons. It's okay to say that you think bitcoin casinos are awesome. But you're suggesting here that only these types of casinos are recommended.
I rather think that you advertise the casinos on a large scale on some websites a la bitcoincasinobonusbetrugstestpaypalbookofracasinospiele.org or are possibly a manager or employee at Direx N.V Casinos. A company that certainly operates 80% of bitcoin casinos.
kFkA (short question short answer) about online casinos
29th Jun. 2017, at 01:08 pm CEST#14
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Oje Oje Daniel now Orakelt and come the conspiracy theories with you still in addition. So much I can tell you, I'm a normal player and Affiliate like you too and yes I advertise in contrast to you these casinos mentioned as you advertise your VideoslotlapakakaMalta shed. At which online casino operator do you still work so on the side - if one may ask since you also live in Malta? Because without many Affi sites I imagine the survival with Malta sheds very difficult.
FIFA17 wrote on 29.06.2017 at 13:08 clock: Oje Oje Daniel now Orakelt and come the conspiracy theories with you still in addition. So much I can tell you, am normal player and Affiliate like you too and yes I advertise unlike you these casinos mentioned as you advertise your VideoslotlapakakaMalta shed. At which online casino operator do you still work so on the side - if one may ask since you also live in Malta? Because without many Affi sites I imagine the survival with Malta sheds very difficult.
I also do not only gambling sites, but am also in other serious or normal topics at the start (DSL, Webhosting, etc.). Also Matthias does not only make GambleJoe. That's why I can afford not to list any Bitcoin casinos and still be viable. Why I am on Malta has several reasons, which I have already mentioned many times:
1. I decided to expand GambleJoe together with Matthias. Of course I would like to have legal security then, because running gambling sites in Germany could lead to legal problems. (This is the main reason)
2. I had debts (taxes / health insurance) due to gambling addiction. In Malta you save taxes and so I was able to pay back these debts in a reasonable time. (This was the second most important reason, at that time ...)
3. Player protection is better implemented. If you get yourself banned in a casino in Malta, then you are either banned for 6 months, 1 year or forever on the whole island for any kind of gambling. Since, unlike in Germany, there are no rip-off machines in gambling houses, pubs & Co. here, the player protection is also effective. That was the third most important reason. I always lock myself for half a year, then gamble for 1-2 days and then get another lock. Unfortunately, that doesn't work in the online area and that was also a bit of a problem in 2017, but I've currently solved it relatively well.
4. I suffer from chronic depression and the climate has a positive effect on this disease.
5. I have now settled in Malta and I like it here. I have found a nice wife here and made a few contacts. Not with casino managers, I was only 2x with two managers of LeoVegas eat. And those were so far the only personal contacts with employees of online casinos. (This has become the second most important, maybe even the most important reason for me today)
Incidentally, most people who work in casinos or run casinos are rather unsympathetic to me and I can well do without personal meetings. There are few managers who are sympathetic to me. That would be Alexander Knopf from sunmaker / sunnyplayer Casino. Maxim from Mr. Green, now unfortunately at DrückGlück and Melanie and Stefan from LeoVegas.
kFkA (short question short answer) about online casinos
29th Jun. 2017, at 02:25 pm CEST#16
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OK, thank you for your open and honest answer. I like it very much! But with the sympathy in the very very special industry I have to agree with you.
I hope that remains so good for you and can fully enjoy it there
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kFkA (short question short answer) about online casinos
29th Jun. 2017, at 08:17 pm CEST#17
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FIFA17 wrote on 06/29/2017 at 14:25: OK, thank you for your open and honest answer. I like it very much! But I have to agree with you about the sympathy in the very very special industry.
I hope it stays that good for you and you can fully enjoy it there
That's exactly what I mean. What's the point of something like that? Do you even read through your own texts and then think to yourself: Yeah man. I gave it argumentatively correctly! or how does something like that come about?
Daniel writes you a huge text in which he explains everything and argues factually and you bang out some nonsense about because the point goes to you or I hope that remains so good for you and can fully enjoy it there
I mean now once hand on heart...... What is all this crap?
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8th Aug. 2017, at 04:50 pm CEST#18
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Bwin (Bet and Win) is the only Provider that offers "Lucky Pharaoh"(Merkur). A game with high addiction potential Other providers I could not find and you?
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kFkA (short question short answer) about online casinos
22nd Aug. 2017, at 10:31 pm CEST#19
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Are there any progressive Jackpot games that make sense and where anyone here has won anything? It's always appealing when you see them, but somehow I think the odds are like playing the lottery. Or am I wrong there?
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23rd Aug. 2017, at 01:10 am CEST#20
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Avantgarde83 wrote on 22/08/2017 at 22:31: Are there any progressive Jackpot games that make sense and where anyone here has won anything before? Is always appealing to see those, but somehow I think the odds resemble playing the lottery. Or am I wrong about that?
So I like Divine Fortune by NetEnt The game has a high addictiveness factor (for me anyway). There is basically only one progressive jackpot which is mostly between 30.000€ and 120.000€ (varies between the casinos partly). The slot gives the impression that it is feasible to hit the jackpot and I think it is also easier to hit it in practice than for example the jackpot at Hall of Gods where the chances are really similar to a 6 in the lottery.
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The whole story is for players, as well as for providers so far a gray area. In the opinion of my lawyer, however, players who play in online casinos without a gambling license, fake slots & bitcoins are definitely liable to prosecution under §285 StGB.
To your half-knowledge:
This AWV reporting requirement from 12,500€ has nothing to do with taxes or criminal prosecution. This is only for statistical purposes. See: https://www.gamblejoe.com/news/awv-meldepflicht/
A report to the tax office is issued only from a cash receipt of 50,000€ or cash deposits from 10,000€ - however, I am not 100% sure about the sums. But with a cash receipt of 30.000€ the tax office gets definitely nothing (on automatic way).
By the way, this 183 days rule does not exist. You are taxed where you have your habitual residence. That means, if you have registered a car and an apartment in Germany, if all telephone and cell phone contracts are made to your German address and if you have most of your social contacts in Germany, then you will be taxed in Germany. It does not matter if you have a vacation home in Malta and spend 200 days a year there. The 183 days is only one of many factors. In case of doubt, it does not bring you anything, even if you live 200 days a year in another country.
To be taxed exclusively in another country you have to deregister everything, residency, cancel health Insurance, deregister car, cancel apartment or rent out if property, etc.
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An outing can sometimes also be liberating! What is not right? The gray zone story, the one with the AWV reporting requirement, the tax exemption of gambling (professional Poker players excluded) or the one with the 183 days rule? And why do you have to out yourself to prove that? Surely you are not the only one who knows what you know and you could bring any sources. I like to learn something new and I also let myself be convinced if another opinion makes sense and I gain new knowledge from it.
I wonder why it's so important to you to put these weird unlicensed Bitcoin casinos and fake slots in a positive light? If you want to play there, why not? It's your choice. I wouldn't play there and I advise my community not to for what I consider good reasons. It's okay to say that you think bitcoin casinos are awesome. But you're suggesting here that only these types of casinos are recommended.
I rather think that you advertise the casinos on a large scale on some websites a la bitcoincasinobonusbetrugstestpaypalbookofracasinospiele.org or are possibly a manager or employee at Direx N.V Casinos. A company that certainly operates 80% of bitcoin casinos.
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I also do not only gambling sites, but am also in other serious or normal topics at the start (DSL, Webhosting, etc.). Also Matthias does not only make GambleJoe. That's why I can afford not to list any Bitcoin casinos and still be viable. Why I am on Malta has several reasons, which I have already mentioned many times:
1. I decided to expand GambleJoe together with Matthias. Of course I would like to have legal security then, because running gambling sites in Germany could lead to legal problems. (This is the main reason)
2. I had debts (taxes / health insurance) due to gambling addiction. In Malta you save taxes and so I was able to pay back these debts in a reasonable time. (This was the second most important reason, at that time ...)
3. Player protection is better implemented. If you get yourself banned in a casino in Malta, then you are either banned for 6 months, 1 year or forever on the whole island for any kind of gambling. Since, unlike in Germany, there are no rip-off machines in gambling houses, pubs & Co. here, the player protection is also effective. That was the third most important reason. I always lock myself for half a year, then gamble for 1-2 days and then get another lock. Unfortunately, that doesn't work in the online area and that was also a bit of a problem in 2017, but I've currently solved it relatively well.
4. I suffer from chronic depression and the climate has a positive effect on this disease.
5. I have now settled in Malta and I like it here. I have found a nice wife here and made a few contacts. Not with casino managers, I was only 2x with two managers of LeoVegas eat. And those were so far the only personal contacts with employees of online casinos. (This has become the second most important, maybe even the most important reason for me today)
Incidentally, most people who work in casinos or run casinos are rather unsympathetic to me and I can well do without personal meetings. There are few managers who are sympathetic to me. That would be Alexander Knopf from sunmaker / sunnyplayer Casino. Maxim from Mr. Green, now unfortunately at DrückGlück and Melanie and Stefan from LeoVegas.
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I hope that remains so good for you and can fully enjoy it there
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That's exactly what I mean. What's the point of something like that? Do you even read through your own texts and then think to yourself: Yeah man. I gave it argumentatively correctly! or how does something like that come about?
Daniel writes you a huge text in which he explains everything and argues factually and you bang out some nonsense about because the point goes to you or I hope that remains so good for you and can fully enjoy it there
I mean now once hand on heart...... What is all this crap?
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So I like Divine Fortune by NetEnt The game has a high addictiveness factor (for me anyway). There is basically only one progressive jackpot which is mostly between 30.000€ and 120.000€ (varies between the casinos partly). The slot gives the impression that it is feasible to hit the jackpot and I think it is also easier to hit it in practice than for example the jackpot at Hall of Gods where the chances are really similar to a 6 in the lottery.
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