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It's getting ridiculous
10th Jul. 2019, at 01:28 pm CEST#41
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Good day to you all,
i can only agree with the author of this article. For some time now, nothing at all has been going on in the OCs. Especially if you play with smaller deposits, the games close completely. I have not yet dared to Deposit 400 - 500 EUR at once, which is certainly due to my good upbringing. But when I read entries here: "you can not win with so little" or "I zock now also always high" then I somehow different.
But maybe it has to be that way, that you play even more and pay in even more to finally have a reasonable gaming experience and really win something. The streamers also prove that every day, that you can only gamble big to win big. And with free spins they are happy every time like little children. I would certainly do the same with the wins that they receive.
It's just about fleecing the little man as well as possible. If you pay 500 EUR you win, if you pay 10 x 50 EUR, you have already lost everything before the first deposit...
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It's getting ridiculous
10th Jul. 2019, at 04:14 pm CEST#42
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notamused wrote on 07/10/2019 1:28 pm: Good afternoon everyone,
so I can only agree with the post author. It runs for some time in the OCs nothing at all. Especially if you play with smaller deposits, the games close down completely. I have not yet dared to Deposit 400 - 500 EUR at once, which is certainly due to my good upbringing. But when I read entries here: "you can not win with so little" or "I zock now also always high" then I somehow different.
But maybe it has to be that way, that you play even more and pay in even more to finally have a reasonable gaming experience and really win something. The streamers also prove that every day, that you can only gamble big to win big. And with free spins they are happy every time like little children. I would certainly do the same with the wins that they receive.
It's just about fleecing the little man as well as possible. If you pay 500 EUR you win, if you pay 10 x 50 EUR, you have already lost everything before the first deposit...
Hello first,
first of all I have to agree with you that there are users here who act as if you have to "invest" in a slot; it would pay off for once. You can only shake your head.
To the large stakes: In my opinion, you don't need them. Of course, everyone has his own limits. But there are just slots that can pay well even on small stakes.
About the streamers: There are of course fakes among them. The streamers who are legitimate, however, show their deposits and withdrawals. And what a miracle: The vast majority are massively!!! in the red. And no good hit, which yields a solid five-digit win, can change that.
biqbozz77 wrote on 07/10/2019 4:14 PM
Hello first,
first of all I have to agree with you that there are users here who act as if you have to "invest" in a slot; it would pay off for once. There you can only shake mim head.
To the large stakes: In my opinion, you don't need them. Of course, everyone has his own limits. But there are just slots that can pay well even on small stakes.
About the streamers: There are of course fakes among them. The streamers who are legitimate, however, show their deposits and withdrawals. And what a miracle: The vast majority are massively!!! in the red. And no good hit, which yields a solid five-digit win, can change that.
The big streamers more than make up for it with Affiliate income, donations and subscribers on Twitch. So I don't think all of them are fake, but a huge portion of them are. If you want to find real streamers in the evening, you will see how all streamers are fake. You don't have to invest in slots, but they say that with high Variance, a higher budget increases the chances of seeing a feature, etc. and the chance of not being completely fobbed off cold is somewhat higher.
The statement of bone I understand only conditionally, if you Deposit 100 € and on min bet. in 15 minutes without bonus round, without features, without any win over 5-10x to zero arrives feels that just shitty. That there was also earlier something like that is true, the money must be considered lost. But there are more and more Hyper High Variance games with unachievable potentials, some have already mathematically calculated that these wins are only possible in theory. Only a small fraction of games allow the <realistische>achievement of such a win, for example in Book of Dead it is possible (although extremely extremely rare, but it has been seen).
But now look at Moon Princess, I don't know any person who has ever achieved 5000x there and also Pink Elephant and many other games are advertised with extreme potentials that no one ever gets. Netent is so far the only Provider where I am almost sure that the Max. Win is very rare but possible. Unfortunately, I can't say that about many other providers.
notamused wrote on 07/10/2019 1:28 pm: Good afternoon everyone,
so I can only agree with the post author. It runs for some time in the OCs nothing at all. Especially if you play with smaller deposits, the games close down completely. I have not yet dared to Deposit 400 - 500 EUR at once, which is certainly due to my good upbringing. But when I read entries here: "you can not win with so little" or "I zock now also always high" then I somehow different.
But maybe it has to be that way, that you play even more and pay in even more to finally have a reasonable gaming experience and really win something. The streamers also prove that every day, that you can only gamble big to win big. And with free spins they are happy every time like little children. I would certainly do the same with the wins that they receive.
It's just about fleecing the little man as well as possible. If you pay in 500 EUR you win, if you pay in 10 x 50 EUR, you have already lost everything before the first deposit...
Surely you can also win with small stakes what, of course, not the big hits.
i never deposit more than 30 euros and play max.on 60 cents, usually less.
I was able last week in various casinos 800 euros to withdraw...is not insane much but it's enough to keep playing.
Kleinkariert wrote on 07/10/2019 at 16:47
The big streamers more than make up for it with Affiliate revenue, donations and subscribers on Twitch. So I don't think all of them are fake, but a huge portion just are. If you want to find real streamers in the evening, you will see how all streamers are fake. You don't have to invest in slots, but they say that with high Variance, a higher budget increases the chances of seeing a feature, etc. and the chance of not being completely fobbed off cold is somewhat higher.
The statement of bone I understand only conditionally, if you Deposit 100 € and on min bet. in 15 minutes without bonus round, without features, without any win over 5-10x to zero arrives feels that just shitty. That there was also earlier something like that is true, the money must be considered lost. But there are more and more Hyper High Variance games with unattainable potentials, some have already mathematically calculated that these wins are only possible in theory. Only a small fraction of games allow the <realistische>achievement of such a win, for example in Book of Dead it is possible (although extremely extremely rare, but it has been seen).
But look at Moon Princess now, I don't know any person who has ever achieved 5000x there and also Pink Elephant and many other games are advertised with extreme potentials that no one ever gets. Netent is so far the only Provider where I am almost sure that the Max. Win is very rare but possible. Unfortunately, I can't say that about many other providers.
i think you're absolutely right, thunderkick for example shows the loading of midas touch that you can multiply your stake times 10100 or so, well true but it should be legally required that also dabei stehet how high the probability is to hit the 10100
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It's getting ridiculous
10th Jul. 2019, at 07:11 pm CEST#47
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It's all just making it awesome all the time. I love the games of BTG unfortunately very much, because I find it totally nice when the music of Final Countdown or Gold runs. I know that they have a payout ratio that goes to 0, but if you play smaller, then you don't have much to worry about and if you actually land a big hit, then of course it really pops in the cash register. Unfortunately, I have recently exaggerated a bit with the "big hit" want to land
Because even with these games, there are unfortunately very big promises in the start screens, which you really should not take seriously. In the game WWM alone, I don't think anyone has ever managed to reach the 50 free spins. I would like to claim that it is also rare that someone manages to get over the 20 free spins. And especially in WWM (I had already read here) there is unfortunately always this hurdle to overcome, that you sometimes get wrong information: 92% A rest: B, C, or D and the solution is actually D. You then fall from, for example, 14 free spins down to 10, which completely mocks you as a player in my eyes. Absolutely nothing happens in the free spins and after the free spins you can then watch as even the pitiful remainder of your credit goes to 0
And about the streamers: I am well aware that some disclose what they gamble away and that it is also a lot, but you will not find a single video from them, where they really point out that it is a game with fire and that you might as well open your window and push the money into someone's hand. Instead, only videos of the big wins are shown. Now everyone can interpret for themselves whether they might not be financed. Disclose money ok - but where does the money come from?
notamused wrote on 07/10/2019 at 19:11: It's all make awesome all the time. I love BTG's games unfortunately because I totally love it when the Final Countdown or Gold music is playing. I know that they have a payout ratio that goes towards 0, but if you play smaller, then you don't have much to worry about and if you actually land a big hit, then of course it really pops in the cash register. Unfortunately, I have recently exaggerated a bit with the "big hit" want to land
Because even with these games, there are unfortunately very big promises in the start screens, which you really should not take seriously. In the game WWM alone, I don't think anyone has ever managed to reach the 50 free spins. I would like to claim that it is also rare that someone manages to get over the 20 free spins. And especially with WWM (I had already read here) there is unfortunately always this hurdle to overcome, that you sometimes get wrong information: 92% A rest: B, C, or D and the solution is really D. You then fall from, for example, 14 free spins down to 10, which completely mocks you as a player in my eyes. Absolutely nothing happens in the free spins and after the free spins you can then watch as even the pitiful remainder of your balance goes to 0
And about the streamers: I am well aware that some disclose what they gamble away and that it is also a lot, but you will not find a single video from them, where they really point out that it is a game with fire and that you might as well open your window and push the money into someone's hand. Instead, only videos of the big wins are shown. Now everyone can interpret for themselves whether they might not be financed. Disclose money ok - but where does the money come from?
it does not matter whether you take the 8 games or zockst to 50 games, your win has long been fixed, you win 20 euros then you win the 8 and also with 50 you win 500 euros you win just as with 8 or 50, with 8 you get just re-triggering and right at the first spins nen 10 times multiplier
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It's getting ridiculous
10th Jul. 2019, at 08:51 pm CEST#49
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notamused wrote on 07/10/2019 at 19:11: It's all make awesome all the time. I love BTG's games unfortunately because I totally love it when the Final Countdown or Gold music is playing. I know that they have a payout ratio that goes towards 0, but if you play smaller, then you don't have much to worry about and if you actually land a big hit, then of course it really pops in the cash register. Unfortunately, I have recently exaggerated a bit with the "big hit" want to land
Because even with these games, there are unfortunately very big promises in the start screens, which you really should not take seriously. In the game WWM alone, I don't think anyone has ever managed to reach the 50 free spins. I would like to claim that it is also rare that someone manages to get over the 20 free spins. And especially in WWM (I had already read here) there is unfortunately always this hurdle to overcome, that you sometimes get wrong information: 92% A rest: B, C, or D and the solution is actually D. You then fall from, for example, 14 free spins down to 10, which completely mocks you as a player in my eyes. Absolutely nothing happens in the free spins and after the free spins you can then watch as even the pitiful remainder of your balance goes to 0
And to the streamers: It is well known to me that some disclose what they gamble away and that it is also a lot, but you will not find a single video of those where they really point out that it is a game with fire and that you might as well open your window and push the money into someone's hand. Instead, only videos of the big wins are shown. Now everyone can interpret for themselves whether they might not be financed. Disclose money ok - but where does the money come from?
That's not true, a Finn has made the 50, there is a video about it on YT
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It's getting ridiculous
10th Jul. 2019, at 08:55 pm CEST#50
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Dbac79 wrote on 07/10/2019 8:28 PM
it does not matter whether you take the 8 games or zockst to 50 games, your win is already long fixed, you win 20 euros then you win the 8 and also with 50 you win 500 euros you win just as with 8 or 50, with 8 you get just re-triggering and immediately at the first spins nen 10 times multiplier
Who says that? Games like Extra Chilli or WWM have an increased RTP when you gamble and reach a certain level. An increased RTP also means a different programming and therefore the free spin results are determined by the RNG only after the gambles, then they are also fixed before but not before the gambles.
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i can only agree with the author of this article. For some time now, nothing at all has been going on in the OCs. Especially if you play with smaller deposits, the games close completely. I have not yet dared to Deposit 400 - 500 EUR at once, which is certainly due to my good upbringing. But when I read entries here: "you can not win with so little" or "I zock now also always high" then I somehow different.
But maybe it has to be that way, that you play even more and pay in even more to finally have a reasonable gaming experience and really win something. The streamers also prove that every day, that you can only gamble big to win big. And with free spins they are happy every time like little children. I would certainly do the same with the wins that they receive.
It's just about fleecing the little man as well as possible. If you pay 500 EUR you win, if you pay 10 x 50 EUR, you have already lost everything before the first deposit...
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Hello first,
first of all I have to agree with you that there are users here who act as if you have to "invest" in a slot; it would pay off for once. You can only shake your head.
To the large stakes: In my opinion, you don't need them. Of course, everyone has his own limits. But there are just slots that can pay well even on small stakes.
About the streamers: There are of course fakes among them. The streamers who are legitimate, however, show their deposits and withdrawals. And what a miracle: The vast majority are massively!!! in the red. And no good hit, which yields a solid five-digit win, can change that.
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The big streamers more than make up for it with Affiliate income, donations and subscribers on Twitch. So I don't think all of them are fake, but a huge portion of them are. If you want to find real streamers in the evening, you will see how all streamers are fake. You don't have to invest in slots, but they say that with high Variance, a higher budget increases the chances of seeing a feature, etc. and the chance of not being completely fobbed off cold is somewhat higher.
The statement of bone I understand only conditionally, if you Deposit 100 € and on min bet. in 15 minutes without bonus round, without features, without any win over 5-10x to zero arrives feels that just shitty. That there was also earlier something like that is true, the money must be considered lost. But there are more and more Hyper High Variance games with unachievable potentials, some have already mathematically calculated that these wins are only possible in theory. Only a small fraction of games allow the <realistische>achievement of such a win, for example in Book of Dead it is possible (although extremely extremely rare, but it has been seen).
But now look at Moon Princess, I don't know any person who has ever achieved 5000x there and also Pink Elephant and many other games are advertised with extreme potentials that no one ever gets. Netent is so far the only Provider where I am almost sure that the Max. Win is very rare but possible. Unfortunately, I can't say that about many other providers.
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Surely you can also win with small stakes what, of course, not the big hits.
i never deposit more than 30 euros and play max.on 60 cents, usually less.
I was able last week in various casinos 800 euros to withdraw...is not insane much but it's enough to keep playing.
Maybe there will be a big win.
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well not me, i always have the upper hand
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i think you're absolutely right, thunderkick for example shows the loading of midas touch that you can multiply your stake times 10100 or so, well true but it should be legally required that also dabei stehet how high the probability is to hit the 10100
</realistische>
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Because even with these games, there are unfortunately very big promises in the start screens, which you really should not take seriously. In the game WWM alone, I don't think anyone has ever managed to reach the 50 free spins. I would like to claim that it is also rare that someone manages to get over the 20 free spins. And especially in WWM (I had already read here) there is unfortunately always this hurdle to overcome, that you sometimes get wrong information: 92% A rest: B, C, or D and the solution is actually D. You then fall from, for example, 14 free spins down to 10, which completely mocks you as a player in my eyes. Absolutely nothing happens in the free spins and after the free spins you can then watch as even the pitiful remainder of your credit goes to 0
And about the streamers: I am well aware that some disclose what they gamble away and that it is also a lot, but you will not find a single video from them, where they really point out that it is a game with fire and that you might as well open your window and push the money into someone's hand. Instead, only videos of the big wins are shown. Now everyone can interpret for themselves whether they might not be financed. Disclose money ok - but where does the money come from?
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it does not matter whether you take the 8 games or zockst to 50 games, your win has long been fixed, you win 20 euros then you win the 8 and also with 50 you win 500 euros you win just as with 8 or 50, with 8 you get just re-triggering and right at the first spins nen 10 times multiplier
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That's not true, a Finn has made the 50, there is a video about it on YT
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Who says that? Games like Extra Chilli or WWM have an increased RTP when you gamble and reach a certain level. An increased RTP also means a different programming and therefore the free spin results are determined by the RNG only after the gambles, then they are also fixed before but not before the gambles.
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