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Online Casinos in general: Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos? (Page 6)

Topic created on 01st Jun. 2018 | Page: 6 of 58 | Answers: 573 | Views: 143,035
Anonym

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 05:17 pm CEST#51
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Ahso... in Curacou cheating is possible, but at the European licensed casinos so not? Why? Because we in Europe are merciless justice fanatics? So who argues in such a way has for me no evidence-bringing argumentation. Corruption or the general greed for power and riches prevails worldwide and unfortunately does not only affect certain parts of this globe.
LABoy90... you ask for patterns... so if you have never noticed any, then you have probably never played in a casino, besides, these so-called patterns have already been explained many times in various threads.
I mention it again... I do not claim that you can not win in OCs, I am also aware that the probability of losing is also higher. But I claim that this does not happen "by chance", probably determined by certain factors and yes, vlt also not by the operators themselves, but by the respective casinos.

Well, what you trust the Curacou casinos, I trust all casinos. Well, why don't you play in Curacou Casinos? Because they cheat in the form of refusal to pay out or because the games there are copies etc.? Or have you experienced a pattern there that shows fraudulent behavior? Please, give me some evidence of that. You can't just come along and accuse all Curacou casinos of fraud. That is a criminal offense. ... There is a presumption of innocence until there is evidence to the contrary.

Long speech short sense... each individual must decide for himself whether he and whom he entrusts his money. It can never be seen behind the scenes, so it is aggravating vlt even impossible to provide evidence. However, common sense is proof enough for me.


Random... my comment was about the bone. I completely agree with you.

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upola
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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 05:35 pm CEST#52
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Samira wrote on 02/06/2018 at 17:17: You can't just come along and accuse all Curacou Casinos of fraud. That is a criminal offense. ...

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You're not serious now,are you? >:O

If you always play in the same casino...are the chances of winning actually worse?

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Knochen
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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 05:41 pm CEST#53
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upola wrote on 02/06/2018 at 17:35
You're not serious now,are you? >:O

If you always play in the same casino...are the chances to win actually worse?

The chances of winning are exactly the same everywhere. It has nothing to do with which (reputable) casino you play in.

@Samira: The reason why Curacao are rather put under general suspicion is I think mainly the payment morality of some casinos from there. Here in the forum you have already read often enough that it is already possible to win a lot of money there. So the casinos with original slots have at least the same chances of winning, but whether the win is paid out is another question and the authority does not necessarily help you there.

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Anonym

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 06:09 pm CEST#54
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Bones... I realize that this is one of the reasons... havs also mentioned. I still mean that not all Curacau casinos act the same. I just wanted to point out that alone the suspicion of fraud is expressed if no European license is given. Which would of course be completely wrong... nevertheless one is skeptical in this respect, it is all pushed into a drawer. Now they could also cry out... because of... Hello, we are wrongly accused... please provide evidence. Would not be possible of course. I just wanted to make it clear that LABoy90 also shoots against casinos without any real basis. I think ultimately everyone must decide for themselves who and what he wants to believe.

Upola... yes I was serious 🙌

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Anonym

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 06:10 pm CEST#55
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What do you want with evidence? Do you want to sue the casinos or what?
If you want to contribute something to the topic, ask yourself why those who warn about the fraud are always long-time and extremely experienced players. While those who so vehemently and selflessly defend themselves against this theory are always young and relatively inexperienced players, who usually do not even have several years of gaming experience under their belt.
Personally, I've been playing poker/slots/betting/blackjack/roulette (in order of frequency - most frequent first) for 20 years (!!), both digital and analog, both online and offline, and have seen enough in my "gaming career" to be able to judge exactly when something is above board and when it is not. And nobody can tell me that everything is clean in OC's! If you're looking for solid scandals and proven cases of fraud, then check out the online Poker scene. You'll find everything from bots used by sites, big-stack collusions to card hacks (players who can see all the cards in the game). Furthermore also cases of tax evasion or embezzlement of the players money or simply not paid jackpots ("system error" ) etc etc etc
here is an old saying from the poker scene: RNG= Rigged Nonsense Generator!
I don't have a complete record of all my gaming activities (I play mainly for fun and not to prove anything to anyone) and I don't have a GoPro implanted on my shoulder for 20 years. Otherwise I could tell you very well how the whole gaming world has changed over the years and is obviously getting more and more "random".
Well, I can't transfer my experience to you. But I assume you have eyes to see. Then please open a live Roulette game and watch the ball in the Pot just before it falls! Sometimes you can just see that it is jammed!
Or just play a few rounds of Blackjack yourself and watch how players to your left (suspected bot) come in, make completely pointless moves, but in the end give the Dealer the 20/21. Over and over again. The only way to prove all the theories in the end is to start a big razzai at OC's and take them completely apart. And no party capable of doing that has any interest in doing so!
On the subject of blackjack fraud, I also once posted in another thread 2 videos that prove fraud. In one, the dealer knows the outcome of the game but forgets to reveal the last card. In another video a case where a dealer pulls the second card from the shoe.

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 06:12 pm CEST#56
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Yes, you are right, there are certainly Curacao casinos that act correctly. Nevertheless, fraud in the sense of simply not paying out is possible while a casino with a Malta license so loses the license. Since there were even Curacao casinos with fake slots, it is also questionable what the requirements are to get such a license. Probably not much more than paying license fees and that should not be enough for a player. A reasonably strong authority behind a casino should simply be able to show.

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Elite

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 06:16 pm CEST#57
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the3rdscatter wrote on 02/06/2018 at 18:10: What do you want with evidence? Are you going to sue the casinos or what?
If you want to contribute something to the topic, you better ask yourself why those who warn about the scam are always long-time and extremely experienced players. While those who so vehemently and selflessly defend themselves against this theory are always young and relatively inexperienced players, who usually do not even have several years of gaming experience under their belt.
Personally, I've been playing poker/slots/betting/blackjack/roulette (in order of frequency - most frequent first) for 20 years (!!), both digital and analog, both online and offline, and have seen enough in my "gaming career" to be able to judge exactly when something is above board and when it is not. And nobody can tell me that everything is clean in OC's! If you're looking for solid scandals and proven cases of fraud, then check out the online Poker scene. You'll find everything from bots used by sites, big-stack collusions to card hacks (players who can see all the cards in the game). Furthermore also cases of tax evasion or embezzlement of the players money or simply not paid jackpots ("system error" ) etc etc etc
here is an old saying from the poker scene: RNG= Rigged Nonsense Generator!
I don't have a complete record of all my gaming activities (I play mainly for fun and not to prove anything to anyone) and I don't have a GoPro implanted on my shoulder for 20 years. Otherwise I could tell you very well how the whole gaming world has changed over the years and is obviously getting more and more "random".
Well, I can't transfer my experience to you. But I assume you have eyes to see. Then please open a live Roulette game and watch the ball in the Pot just before it falls! Sometimes you can just see that it is jammed!
Or just play a few rounds of Blackjack yourself and watch how players to your left (suspected bot) come in, make completely pointless moves, but in the end give the Dealer the 20/21. Over and over again. The only way to prove all the theories in the end is to start a big razzai at OC's and take them completely apart. And no party capable of doing that has any interest in doing so!
On the subject of blackjack fraud, I also once posted in another thread 2 videos that prove fraud. In one, the dealer knows the outcome of the game but forgets to reveal the last card. In another video a case where a dealer pulls the second card from the shoe.

Yes, I can imagine that there is indeed cheating in the "big game". I'm not denying any of that. I also don't believe that casinos are instances of morality. Basically, these are individual cases that must be treated as such. Personally, I have now a good 7 years of experience behind me and have played 4 years really excessive (almost exclusively offline). I know the thoughts and can also understand that. Nevertheless, as far as online slot play is concerned, I simply lack the proof. Not even someone here can say how such a fraud should look like. What do you think is the fraud? How does it work? Constantly losing speaks more for the fact that slots are just crap and you almost always lose.

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Anonym

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 06:23 pm CEST#58
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LABoy90 wrote on 02.06.2018 at 10:41
This is a curacaocasino, Daniel warns strongly and repeatedly not to play at such sites, in Europe is also not Curacao for this thread so not relevant.

My last two comments were related to this quote.
I personally don't think much of any licensing authority, no matter which one it is.

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Elite

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 06:28 pm CEST#59
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Samira wrote on 02/06/2018 at 18:23
My last two comments were related to this quote.
I personally don't think much of any licensing authority, no matter which one it is.


I think the British one is quite good. They often intervene.

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Anonym

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 06:45 pm CEST#60
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Dear Bone
the answer to your question can be found in my post to which you replied. Meant are the two videos! So it works for example with the Blackjack! You can find them on page 1 in the thread Martingale strategy.

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