Arab201 wrote on 31/10/2020 at 01:25: So I also opened to that my online banking and calculated the losses and wins. So I have suffered a total of 1500€ loss and 1257€ wins. I was not 1 time right in the plus and that says a lot about online casinos. It is not profitable and that is why I quit for good. Rather 1 time a week for 50€ sports betting and that's it. I am one who is in control with the payouts. I usually pay out 3 times the win of the deposit. Despite all this, I have not managed to be 1 time a few thousand € in the plus and I played intensively for 3 months. I recommend everyone really everyone who plays not to play anymore. Because it is stupid when you know that you are constantly 4% or 6% in the red. I can not understand why this is not completely stopped by the German state. Because after all, the shit is illegal. I know among you there will be some who are not of the opinion. But with it you cheat yourselves.
From now on, the "shit" but tolerated so great then jumps soon for the state even what out and you no longer have to open proceedings because of over zealous consultants who are never successful and the state only cost money...... and the great thing is without the state to appear weak because it is not a yielding but a generous toleration
Wake up please and leave this infatuated casino all scam thing
Every company just wants your money it has always been that way and will always be that way a Mc Donalds doesn't care if you are fat and broke sitting in the corner they will still try to sell you their products
A bank does not care if you spend more than you can afford, they earn money from it
A car dealership doesn't care if you have a driver's license they will still sell you a car
Businesses don't care if their products give you an advantage or a disadvantage because every person should be able to use their God given ability to think for themselves
In the same way it has been clear from the beginning that in gambling you can win but most of the time you lose this is a fact that no one can deny and whoever seriously says he did not know this should not have the power to decide his own life either way
Casinos are not saints that's clear but they also do not care if Martin, Hassan, Bernd or Abdul sink your coal because they can not stop the casino gets at the end of the day always your money for it there is the house advantage
And to complain about the RTP which is partly 95-97% is so stupid who should offer this please if it was 100% then no one would be able to pay the server, staff etc...
I am far from plus with the gambling but I was once clearly had I left it there I would have gone out with plus but I have continued because it is simply my decision and I enjoyed it so simple is that
And that games should cheat you what for please? Cheating is usually similar to theft when someone wants what he does not get and another has
Let's assume casinos want money why should they say hey we now track the Arab and make sure that BoD rips him off properly his money we want when already in the nature of the thing "gambling" is firmly anchored that just a casino can never suffer a total loss through slots
I can only emphasize again it is latte where the money comes from whether of 1 or from 1000 people it will always come
I always keep track of my bets and for my part I can say that I have a plus in the game Sakura Fortune of 8k and in BoD of about 5k
In the same way today I got 4 heads for 1€ at BoD and it still doesn't run differently than usual
Your basic thinking is wrong I understand it when you lose money you look for everything possible to explain the loss and to make you feel better you tell yourself you were cheated then at least it is not your own fault because at least in your mind you never had a chance to win
Question it a little bit but always remember for a company you are only one of many and a fraud on such a large scale no one can cover up there would have to be too many people silent manufacturer and the employees, casino employees, authorities and then we are back to a point if so many people are bribed it would be more worthwhile just legally run everything so because you end up as a casino so or so as already mentioned several times in the plus
gamble1 wrote on 31.10.2020 at 07:35
From now on, the "shit" but tolerated so great then jumps soon for the state even what out and you no longer have to open proceedings because of over zealous consultants who are never successful and cost the state only money...... and the great thing is without the state to appear weak because it is not a yielding but a generous toleration
Wake up please and leave this infatuated casino all scam thing
Every company just wants your money it has always been that way and will always be that way a Mc Donalds doesn't care if you are fat and broke sitting in the corner they will still try to sell you their products
A bank does not care if you spend more than you can afford, they earn money from it
A car dealership doesn't care if you have a driver's license they will still sell you a car
Businesses don't care if their products give you an advantage or a disadvantage because every person should be able to use their God given ability to think for themselves
Likewise it has been clear from the beginning that in gambling you can win but most of the time you lose this is a fact that no one can deny and whoever seriously says he did not know this should not have the power to decide his own life either way
Casinos are not saints that's clear but they also do not care if Martin, Hassan, Bernd or Abdul sink your coal because they can not stop the casino gets at the end of the day always your money for it there is the house advantage
And to complain about the RTP which is partly 95-97% is so stupid who should offer this please if it was 100% then no one would be able to pay the server, staff etc...
I am far from plus with the gambling but I was once clearly had I left it there I would have gone out with plus but I have continued because it is simply my decision and I enjoyed it so simple is that
And that games should cheat you what for please? Cheating is usually similar to theft when someone wants something he does not get and another has
Let's assume casinos want money why should they say hey we now track the Arab and make sure that BoD rips him off properly his money we want when already in the nature of the thing "gambling" is firmly anchored that just a casino can never suffer a total loss through slots
I can only emphasize again it is latte where the money comes whether from 1 or from 1000 people it will always come
I always keep track of my bets and for my part I can say that I have a plus in the game Sakura Fortune of 8k and in BoD of about 5k
In the same way today I got 4 heads for 1€ at BoD and it still doesn't run differently than usual
Your basic thinking is wrong I understand it when you lose money you look for everything possible to explain the loss and to make you feel better you tell yourself you were cheated then at least it's not your own fault because at least in your mind you never had a chance to win
Question it a little bit but always remember for a company you are only one of many and a fraud on such a large scale no one can cover up there would have to be too many people silent manufacturer and the employees, casino employees, authorities and then we are back to a point if so many people are bribed it would be more worthwhile just legally run everything so because you end up as a casino so or so as already mentioned several times in the plus
The casino would have no added value
Best contribution I have ever read on this subject
One could, as with everything, discuss each individual aspect with his personal opinion, the experiences made etc. but that does not change the fact that it is as the Mr. Gamble has discussed to our all understanding quite excellent 👏
I would have put son "in your face, bitch" under it... but only to keep the level a bit in the balance😉
So I can not speak for all casinos, just at the casino and especially sports betting Provider with the T, I had desöfteren times the feeling that cheat quite beautiful.
Nue high wins, always only lower 100s range and after such wins went nothing more.
BUT!
At a casino (L.V), where I started last year with the Slotten....I won on different days within a very short time at the slots Who wants to be a millionaire and Razor Shark times 400 €, 500 €, 600 € and even 1000 €. With stakes of 0,20 € - max. 1 €. Mostly between 21 and 22 o'clock.
For the most part, however, 0.20 - 0.40 € at WWM.
My total deposits made were just over 100 €.
If I had stopped, I would have made a huge profit. You know what comes now - I did not stop.
I haven't taken stock since then, but should I be in the red by now, it's entirely my fault, as the casino has really given me some big wins. That they are rather rare is somehow also logical.
This may not apply to all casinos, but I have also had positive experiences and was previously a gaaaanz other opinion towards casinos and Slot machines
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gamble1 wrote on 31.10.2020 at 07:35: Every company just wants your money that has always been so and will always remain so a Mc Donalds does not care if you fat and broke in the corner squatting they will still try to sell you their products
A bank does not care if you spend more than you can afford, they earn money from it
A car dealership doesn't care if you have a driver's license they will still sell you a car
Somehow you are throwing together different stuff as you need it to prove the competence of OC's.
I mean, of course they all want to earn money.
But if, for example, McDonalds does a €1 promotion for the SuperMegaBurger, then you get it immediately after the payment process
You don't have to bring your pay slip or a photo of you grinning into the lens with your ID card.
It's the same at the car dealership. You pay for the car and then it's yours. There are no hidden ABG's that say that you have to buy another car first, because of moving and so on.
" And to complain about the RTP which is partly 95-97% is so stupid who should offer that please if it was 100% then no one would be able to pay the servers, employees etc... "
No one knows what value the RTP refers to. ! Because of 3% profit margin nobody opens an OC. I would rather calculate the RTP after deducting all costs + win. Probably the true RTP is somewhere around 60%
I think most boxes run clean except for one which is my theory.
The lower the bet the higher the chance of a monster hit.
That doesn't mean you have a higher RTP on, say, 20 eurocents. Only the Variance is not the same within all bet levels.
Thus, the Provider casinos protect against "horror hits"
Just a theory
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2nd Nov. 2020, at 01:20 am CET#434
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Goeki72 wrote on 01/11/2020 at 15:19: Isn't an RTP below 100% basically cheating? Lol
I think most boxes run clean except for one which is my theory.
The lower the bet the higher the chance of a monster hit.
That doesn't mean you have a higher RTP on, say, 20 eurocents. Only the Variance is not the same within all bet levels.
Thus, the Provider casinos protect against "horror hits"
Just a theory
I think that all levels run separately and each level is equal in its value.
There are just as well horror hits on high stakes. But make times 100 thousand spins on 5 euros bet. Just not everyone can afford...
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So guys and gals I am now finally convinced Online Casinos and their providers cheat. Have tonight 2.50 € free spins received in the game John Hunter and the Book Of Tut. Now everyone can guess what I won in the free spins. I deposited a total of 150€ and the slot ate it all. Then I Deposit another 50€ and what happens the slot pays me completely outrageous 32€ out in the 10 2.50 times free spins. May be normal at Pracmatik play but usually there is then always at least a consolation prize after such actions. But this time snotty nothing.
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From now on, the "shit" but tolerated so great then jumps soon for the state even what out and you no longer have to open proceedings because of over zealous consultants who are never successful and the state only cost money...... and the great thing is without the state to appear weak because it is not a yielding but a generous toleration
Wake up please and leave this infatuated casino all scam thing
Every company just wants your money it has always been that way and will always be that way a Mc Donalds doesn't care if you are fat and broke sitting in the corner they will still try to sell you their products
A bank does not care if you spend more than you can afford, they earn money from it
A car dealership doesn't care if you have a driver's license they will still sell you a car
Businesses don't care if their products give you an advantage or a disadvantage because every person should be able to use their God given ability to think for themselves
In the same way it has been clear from the beginning that in gambling you can win but most of the time you lose this is a fact that no one can deny and whoever seriously says he did not know this should not have the power to decide his own life either way
Casinos are not saints that's clear but they also do not care if Martin, Hassan, Bernd or Abdul sink your coal because they can not stop the casino gets at the end of the day always your money for it there is the house advantage
And to complain about the RTP which is partly 95-97% is so stupid who should offer this please if it was 100% then no one would be able to pay the server, staff etc...
I am far from plus with the gambling but I was once clearly had I left it there I would have gone out with plus but I have continued because it is simply my decision and I enjoyed it so simple is that
And that games should cheat you what for please? Cheating is usually similar to theft when someone wants what he does not get and another has
Let's assume casinos want money why should they say hey we now track the Arab and make sure that BoD rips him off properly his money we want when already in the nature of the thing "gambling" is firmly anchored that just a casino can never suffer a total loss through slots
I can only emphasize again it is latte where the money comes from whether of 1 or from 1000 people it will always come
I always keep track of my bets and for my part I can say that I have a plus in the game Sakura Fortune of 8k and in BoD of about 5k
In the same way today I got 4 heads for 1€ at BoD and it still doesn't run differently than usual
Your basic thinking is wrong I understand it when you lose money you look for everything possible to explain the loss and to make you feel better you tell yourself you were cheated then at least it is not your own fault because at least in your mind you never had a chance to win
Question it a little bit but always remember for a company you are only one of many and a fraud on such a large scale no one can cover up there would have to be too many people silent manufacturer and the employees, casino employees, authorities and then we are back to a point if so many people are bribed it would be more worthwhile just legally run everything so because you end up as a casino so or so as already mentioned several times in the plus
The casino would have no added value from it
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One could, as with everything, discuss each individual aspect with his personal opinion, the experiences made etc. but that does not change the fact that it is as the Mr. Gamble has discussed to our all understanding quite excellent 👏
I would have put son "in your face, bitch" under it... but only to keep the level a bit in the balance😉
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Nue high wins, always only lower 100s range and after such wins went nothing more.
BUT!
At a casino (L.V), where I started last year with the Slotten....I won on different days within a very short time at the slots Who wants to be a millionaire and Razor Shark times 400 €, 500 €, 600 € and even 1000 €. With stakes of 0,20 € - max. 1 €. Mostly between 21 and 22 o'clock.
For the most part, however, 0.20 - 0.40 € at WWM.
My total deposits made were just over 100 €.
If I had stopped, I would have made a huge profit. You know what comes now - I did not stop.
I haven't taken stock since then, but should I be in the red by now, it's entirely my fault, as the casino has really given me some big wins. That they are rather rare is somehow also logical.
This may not apply to all casinos, but I have also had positive experiences and was previously a gaaaanz other opinion towards casinos and Slot machines
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Somehow you are throwing together different stuff as you need it to prove the competence of OC's.
I mean, of course they all want to earn money.
But if, for example, McDonalds does a €1 promotion for the SuperMegaBurger, then you get it immediately after the payment process
You don't have to bring your pay slip or a photo of you grinning into the lens with your ID card.
It's the same at the car dealership. You pay for the car and then it's yours. There are no hidden ABG's that say that you have to buy another car first, because of moving and so on.
So your comparison is a bit lame here...
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" And to complain about the RTP which is partly 95-97% is so stupid who should offer that please if it was 100% then no one would be able to pay the servers, employees etc... "
No one knows what value the RTP refers to. ! Because of 3% profit margin nobody opens an OC. I would rather calculate the RTP after deducting all costs + win. Probably the true RTP is somewhere around 60%
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somehow no wins come it runs only down from time to time 5 or 10 € on 1 € bet and that's it then already
can the rtp somehow hochballern? so somehow influence so that there is more payout?
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Best not to play at all, that is the best rtp .
The profit factors are sometimes worse than in any gambling house
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I think most boxes run clean except for one which is my theory.
The lower the bet the higher the chance of a monster hit.
That doesn't mean you have a higher RTP on, say, 20 eurocents. Only the Variance is not the same within all bet levels.
Thus, the Provider casinos protect against "horror hits"
Just a theory
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I think that all levels run separately and each level is equal in its value.
There are just as well horror hits on high stakes. But make times 100 thousand spins on 5 euros bet. Just not everyone can afford...
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