blackmamba wrote on 28.07.2020 at 02:33: Correctly expressed. Ultimately, the only question is, can basically anyone win, are there
only certain time windows, is it certain at the beginning of a session what your maximum profit will be etc.?
So in other words, do you have a fair luck and bad luck based round in front of you at all,
or is everything more or less fixed beforehand. Of course I don't mean the individual
Spin. That yes the crucial question, in which casinos in silence cover themselves, and/or the thesis
spread, it is really alls Zufallsabhängig. A few proofs would be already appropriate.
The more transparent the whole thing, the less talk...
Against this thesis speaks, that players notice, that some machines are closed, that on certain
Days (payment of wages/salary/Hartz4) usually goes less than on other days, that until before the
Bonus, and then it goes rapidly to zero, that with lucky streaks, up to a certain point
up to a certain point at some point nothing more goes. Is it then randomly based?
That casinos sometimes do not pay out, then but, or the player as a gesture of goodwill,
can be a simple advertising strategy.
The customer wins 30,000€, and is not paid out due to a violation of the bonus.
Customer turns to GJ, Askgambler etc., the casino can count on that. People today are not
so shy as before, and write faster a complaint. Casino gives in and/or shows itself cooperatively and
accommodates the player at least a part. Community is enthusiastic, and registers possibly also there.
The accommodating of the casino remains in the head of the players!
With little effort and almost no cost, an effective advertising.
I would also bet my left leg that it used to be a different playing. Of course also with loss, also
with vieeeeel loss, but you got something offered. It was often free spins, you had with 100€ deposit
80% a lot of fun, and played longer, even if you lost everything
lost everything. Just before I quit, it was still felt 20% gaming fun
100€ just rattled through without any significant win.
This has little to do with luck and bad luck, chance or fun.
I suspect that at that time not everything was as mature and perfected as today.
Of course, this is not proof, but at least a good reason to stop!
My opinion, of course, everyone can feel or see differently.
You know, with many of your thoughts I am with you.
What bothers me is that Arab sees his thoughts as the only true truth.
That here constantly "fraud" is called.
That you complain that you win 5000 and then no more.
It is now times Slot machines, and not winning machines.
Whether manipulated or not, I do not know.
But if I am of the opinion it is manipulated, I would no longer play.
Begbie wrote on 28.07.2020 at 08:17: It seems to have been overlooked as it is still being discussed. The slots (from German manufacturers) are approved by the PTB. If they do not comply with the rules, there would be no approval and the game would not be allowed on the market.
Yes but did you ever think that games can still be manipulated after they have been approved? This is common practice in politics and legislation ...
Ultimately, no one can say with absolute certainty what is right now. In the end, as always, the truth will lie in the middle ...
Leni0809 wrote on 28/07/2020 at 15:53
Yes but ever thought that after games are approved they can still be rigged? This is commonplace in politics and legislation ...
Ultimately, no one can say with absolute certainty what is right now. In the end, as always, the truth will probably lie in the middle ...
Exactly and that's where the transparency of the MGA is lacking. What annoys me even more is that games are sometimes updated and you never know what there geupdated. Sure bugs like in some BTG slots are fixed with it, but it was I think also once at BoD something more geupdated at the initial time of the slot it should have been different. About the game versions and what was always adapted in each case, it is difficult to find information.
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You know, with many of your thoughts I am with you.
What bothers me is that Arab sees his thoughts as the only true truth.
That here constantly "fraud" is called.
That you complain that you win 5000 and then no more.
It is now times Slot machines, and not winning machines.
Whether manipulated or not, I do not know.
But if I am of the opinion it is manipulated, I would no longer play.
I still have a prosthesis for your left leg.
You are right, of course. Regardless of whether there is a suspicion or not, you can use multiple
losing the prosthesis cannot be considered as an indication of fraud, as this is well within the normal range
That's why I had written somewhere that you have to differentiate whether someone is dealing with
constructive criticism or fraud possibilities to word, or whether only someone screams that is cheated because
he has lost
But you can usually recognize that quite quickly. I keep my leg!
I can hardly imagine that my memory is so deceiving.
Well, maybe we'll find out sometime how it really is
And until then I try not to play consistently.
Even if my fingers itch, because I really love to gamble.
But the consequences, as you rightly say, you should already draw if you suspect fraud.
So, I'll just change, and come back as driftwood to answer myself!
Leni0809 wrote on 28/07/2020 at 15:53
Yes but ever thought that games can still be rigged after they are approved? This is commonplace in politics and legislation ...
Ultimately, no one can say with absolute certainty what is now right. In the end, as always, the truth will probably lie in the middle ...
They certainly have their natural level settings in the software,
which are also approved. I'm right there with you. They can regulate spot on,
regulate legally. Or should they let themselves be robbed ? That is profit protection
and profit optimization, not fraud or manipulation. All earn on it, only one
can also exaggerate the 'level' and there we have great casinos that do not know the word
do not know the word 'fairness' until today. That's how I see it. M.M.
From a legal point of view, it may not be fraud or Manipulation, because the legislator creates the appropriate framework. However, if the casinos regulate the payouts and thus deprive the players of the chances to get maximum wins, then this is of course fraud, regardless of the regulations
I'm not saying that you can't win. This also happened to me and I had a 2000x hit on Bonanza in November last year. However, that was also only one of 5 ( about 1000 x ) notable hits in three years and I played a lot
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May I tell you my personal opinion on this subject, they can do what they want in Malta, it itches absolutely no one, and you also notice zb. As a High Roller that you get after 5000 Deposit without free spins sometime something, but this is not nearly as much as you have deposited, there are exceptions where you suddenly get out of nowhere fat sums, but in my opinion, the whole online casino thing which takes place in such small offices in Malta just lug and fraud, I think there just wash many criminals their money as owners of so-called online casinos. You see here constantly also high winning pictures but if you do not get out in time, your life is f**ked.
Let the fingers of the whole shit then you're better off.
Peace
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Ajajme wrote on 29.07.2020 at 12:22 pm: , there are also exceptions where you suddenly get fat sums out of nowhere,
Leni0809 wrote on 28/07/2020 at 15:53
Yes but ever thought that games can still be rigged after they are approved? This is commonplace in politics and legislation ...
Ultimately, no one can say with absolute certainty what is now right. In the end, as always, the truth will lie in the middle ...
no, it's not that simple. Keyword checksums.
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Begbie wrote on 07/29/2020 at 1:00 pm
nope it's not that simple. Keyword checksums.
So in VW's case, the car's software detected whether it was in a testing situation and
and then followed the American emission limits accordingly. You have to imagine this
Cleverness and also criminal energy on the course melt let.
During the journey it looked completely different. So it came out rather by chance, because it was checked during the
Which is absolutely uncommon. Therefore, the software also did not recognize the test situation.
So if a car manufacturer manages to do this, and it only comes to light by chance, then it will be a provider/casino,
which in principle only work virtually or with software, will be able to do it easily.
So a certification is everything, but not safe. I don't think there is 100% security anywhere anymore, otherwise
you would have to stand next to it day and night. And even then they would still manage to cheat.
Katharina is not so wrong. Why don't providers run a casino or several directly?
I believe that the more people and institutions are involved, the more difficult it is to prove possible fraud
Fraud, because everyone shifts the blame to others, and so a completely opaque network comes to light
comes to light. And of course, no one wants to have known anything about it. The casinos say that they get the data from the
Providers, and have nothing else to do with it. The providers say that everything is clean as far as we are concerned. If, the casino does
does some bad things. Then the documents are gone, and some poor b*****d has to take the fall.
Who is not familiar with this in fraud cases?
I remember darkly that the TÜV, knows only no more which federal state, a bridge in believe Brazil
has accepted and released, which collapsed shortly thereafter. May simply not happen. And if it happens, are presumably funds
flowed......
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You know, with many of your thoughts I am with you.
What bothers me is that Arab sees his thoughts as the only true truth.
That here constantly "fraud" is called.
That you complain that you win 5000 and then no more.
It is now times Slot machines, and not winning machines.
Whether manipulated or not, I do not know.
But if I am of the opinion it is manipulated, I would no longer play.
I still have a prosthesis for your left leg.
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Yes but did you ever think that games can still be manipulated after they have been approved? This is common practice in politics and legislation ...
Ultimately, no one can say with absolute certainty what is right now. In the end, as always, the truth will lie in the middle ...
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Exactly and that's where the transparency of the MGA is lacking. What annoys me even more is that games are sometimes updated and you never know what there geupdated. Sure bugs like in some BTG slots are fixed with it, but it was I think also once at BoD something more geupdated at the initial time of the slot it should have been different. About the game versions and what was always adapted in each case, it is difficult to find information.
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You are right, of course. Regardless of whether there is a suspicion or not, you can use multiple
losing the prosthesis cannot be considered as an indication of fraud, as this is well within the normal range
That's why I had written somewhere that you have to differentiate whether someone is dealing with
constructive criticism or fraud possibilities to word, or whether only someone screams that is cheated because
he has lost
But you can usually recognize that quite quickly. I keep my leg!
I can hardly imagine that my memory is so deceiving.
Well, maybe we'll find out sometime how it really is
And until then I try not to play consistently.
Even if my fingers itch, because I really love to gamble.
But the consequences, as you rightly say, you should already draw if you suspect fraud.
So, I'll just change, and come back as driftwood to answer myself!
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They certainly have their natural level settings in the software,
which are also approved. I'm right there with you. They can regulate spot on,
regulate legally. Or should they let themselves be robbed ? That is profit protection
and profit optimization, not fraud or manipulation. All earn on it, only one
can also exaggerate the 'level' and there we have great casinos that do not know the word
do not know the word 'fairness' until today. That's how I see it. M.M.
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I'm not saying that you can't win. This also happened to me and I had a 2000x hit on Bonanza in November last year. However, that was also only one of 5 ( about 1000 x ) notable hits in three years and I played a lot
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Let the fingers of the whole shit then you're better off.
Peace
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Welcome to gambling
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no, it's not that simple. Keyword checksums.
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So in VW's case, the car's software detected whether it was in a testing situation and
and then followed the American emission limits accordingly. You have to imagine this
Cleverness and also criminal energy on the course melt let.
During the journey it looked completely different. So it came out rather by chance, because it was checked during the
Which is absolutely uncommon. Therefore, the software also did not recognize the test situation.
So if a car manufacturer manages to do this, and it only comes to light by chance, then it will be a provider/casino,
which in principle only work virtually or with software, will be able to do it easily.
So a certification is everything, but not safe. I don't think there is 100% security anywhere anymore, otherwise
you would have to stand next to it day and night. And even then they would still manage to cheat.
Katharina is not so wrong. Why don't providers run a casino or several directly?
I believe that the more people and institutions are involved, the more difficult it is to prove possible fraud
Fraud, because everyone shifts the blame to others, and so a completely opaque network comes to light
comes to light. And of course, no one wants to have known anything about it. The casinos say that they get the data from the
Providers, and have nothing else to do with it. The providers say that everything is clean as far as we are concerned. If, the casino does
does some bad things. Then the documents are gone, and some poor b*****d has to take the fall.
Who is not familiar with this in fraud cases?
I remember darkly that the TÜV, knows only no more which federal state, a bridge in believe Brazil
has accepted and released, which collapsed shortly thereafter. May simply not happen. And if it happens, are presumably funds
flowed......
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