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Online Casinos in general: Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos? (Page 24)

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 06:17 am CEST#244
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sorry verdadellt...so on: constantly two bonus symbols to keep you in line.
and as for the argument: there must be whistleblowers....who knows maybe
employees at slot providers have to sign a confidentiality clause or something like that
and believe it or not i have already read a post like that (i don't know when and in which forum
when and in which forum it was). ex-employee of a Provider has exactly such
described such procedures in the programming of slots as i described above
and believe me, for conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists i usually have
but here it is just too obvious.

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Anonym

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 08:04 am CEST#245
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Skitch22 wrote on 26.07.2020 at 05:45: Of course nothing is certain but so wrong is the theory now not, have last and beginning of this month yes won about 1500€ at Danger, and what is going on for 2 weeks? nothing goes more in the game gives no points big more here, come although still often in the FS but he gives nothing more here 20€ are the maximum, as if the game was pulled the plug, I think I win there again only when the payout ratio is at 96% or so until then eats my money I won again away until the ratio is right again.

That's exactly what I'm trying to explain to these bananas. But they don't want to believe. Endweder are the employees of casinos or but fans of online casinos. So I have since 1 year stopped depositing there. Because I have checked that it is not a coincidence and some manufacturers are really ripping off. The IP addresses are stored by the servers and after a while you can absolutely forget about winning. You can play for months, the operator will first make sure that you lose your money that was paid out to you

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 08:19 am CEST#246
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s1n88 wrote on 07/25/2020 at 10:42 am
I have to agree with you on this one!
I can't believe the story as well, because I have last won wins in the 4 digit range without having deposited anything at all, quasi converted Bonus money and then continued to play.
Even after good x700 - x1000 wins at Playngo came afterwards still good wins.

Besides, let's be honest, Playngo and co couldn't care less how the slot runs. Whether it spits out a lot or collects, because the license/usage costs are paid by the casinos anyway. The casino must also pay out any wins, not the Provider (except for Jackpot slots from Netent, for example)

So therefore I can not quite understand the story above.
This business is called gambling and you should leave it at that. Either you get along with it or leave it alone.

Here as I already said it depends on how much you have lost. If you put a lot of money into play'n go slots you will eventually win a lot. You have not understood what I mean. Of course, in the beginning you can make plus, but after a while you will only lose. Book of Dead will not always pay out something you are certainly aware of I think

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upola
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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 09:55 am CEST#247
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Arab201 wrote on 26.07.2020 at 08:04
This is exactly what I am trying to explain here to these bananas. But they don't want to believe. Endweder are the employees of casinos or but fans of online casinos. So I have stopped depositing there for 1 year. Because I have checked that it is not a coincidence and some manufacturers are really ripping off. The IP addresses are stored by the servers and after a while you can absolutely forget about winning. You can play for months, the operator will first make sure that you lose your money that was paid out to you.

With the contribution you have disqualified yourself for a discussion.
Do not make stupid sayings but bring evidence.

Can not you?
I thought so.

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Butterbrezel
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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 11:06 am CEST#248
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Of course, many things are technically possible today. However, the question of WHY has never been completely clarified in the current fraud theories, but only justified with further theories.

Logically, the Provider does not care whether you win or lose.
The provider makes the game available to the online casino according to the wishes of the online casino and is paid for it by the online casino.
You can play the same slot at many different casinos.

The online casino wants of course that in total more players lose than win, otherwise they make a loss.

Example:
Book of Dead, Troll Hunters, Sticky Joker, Honey Rush, Sabaton. Example Casino X
Let's assume that Play'n'Go has only these 5 slots, which are offered at Casino X. Casino X has no other games from other providers, only the 5 games from Play'n'Go.

That means, before a player A receives a win of 10.000 EUR at Casino X in one of the 5 games, the players B - Z must first have lost this 10.000 EUR + sum X (profit margin of the casino) at this provider in this casino.

Example
Total bets in all 5 games by all players through this casino: 100.000 EUR
Wins in all 5 games from all players via this casino: 70.000 EUR
That means there is volume for a payout. And any of the players in this casino playing on any of the slots will receive a Big Win of 10,000 EUR.

Is this fraud?

I don't think so. It is preprogrammed that the casino wins and most of the players lose.
But there is also the possibility that you as a player win more than you lose - for this you just have to spin at the right casino at the right time.
Thus, the online casino basically does not care who wins, because the casino has won in any case.

This is called gambling.

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26th Jul. 2020, at 12:23 pm CEST#249
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Please try to stay on topic and refrain from private arguments here in the forum.

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 01:08 pm CEST#250
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Julian wrote on 07/25/2020 at 11:58 AM

Right, no matter from which casino you start the slot, you will always be redirected to the servers of the Provider, which ultimately proves that at least the casinos have no influence on the game.





Oops...... the question arises why there are OC 's ?
Providers can then do the 'business' and not be content with a comparatively low monthly rent
comparatively, mickrigen monthly rent content. Why do you need
OC employees ? Strange......

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b****a

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 02:05 pm CEST#251
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Katharina2 wrote on 26.07.2020 at 13:08
Oops...... there raises the question why there are OC 's ?
Providers can then make the 'business' and not with a eg
comparatively, mickrigen monthly rent content. Why do you need
OC employees ? Strange......


Also interesting. Can actually only 2 possibilities. Either I need an excuse when times

somehow what comes out, so I can say that is the casino his thing. I verwurstel the whole
so much that no one sees through - see VW

Or it can be made with the system much more money. I let myself pay lower RTP`s, maybe even the possibility
even the possibility to grant access to the casinos to a certain extent. One has a white vest....

By the way VW - there the swindle was noticed by an American test. Of it knew with security also
quite a few, but never came out. That answers the question, I think.

Motivation is as always more money. That also motivates you to keep playing. Most people only start to
Start to gamble properly after a Big Win. Why do you think that is? So it will go to the rovidern and casinos. Once they have licked
licked......

@upola

Bring some proof that they are not manipulating! You always just repeat what the casinos themselves say.
Or you scream for proofs. Try to think how this could happen.
And it is not even noticeable. Do you seriously believe that no one is itching to earn more?
Do you really believe that?

@FuryMaennchen

Maybe the Provider doesn't care. You don't know all the contracts of them with the casinos!
not! Do you know what clauses and agreements come in there?

And nobody knows why Gauselmann has withdrawn. Of course, they say that they want to have a clean slate, in case
if this is ever legalized in Germany. In my eyes nonsense. They have participated for years and
and just because they were abstinent for 2 years, they don't forget their participation. The authorities are not stupid.
Maybe someone told them that it will be more unpleasant in Germany.

Maybe it got too hot for them, too. You can see it in account terminations, payment bans or inquiries. Maybe it was
it was simply too shaky for them in Germany. No one knows, but strangely enough, only the positive is always assumed.

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b****a

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 02:21 pm CEST#252
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I am not someone who blindly cries fraud because he once lost. All theses,
which I have set up, can be carried out without much effort.
And that Malta and the supervisory authorities close their eyes, we have seen in the
we have seen with the Papers and the involvement of the Mafia.

I hardly believe that they have now simply packed up and gone.
And what interests them is profit maximization, not fairness.

If it were fairness, one could directly because of me gladly at deposited
100 € 3 euros for the casino deduct. But then I also always have the
Chance on wins. And not, the machine is closed, you have just won,
on 01. you do not need to play...... .alone the statements of yourselves say
nevertheless already everything! With the luck no automat can be to. Each spin is new and independent.
No matter whether you have previously won fat, is the 1st, or the machine is "closed", or because of
the famous RTP, which of course explains everything.

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

26th Jul. 2020, at 02:34 pm CEST#253
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Katharina2 wrote on 26.07.2020 at 13:08
Oops...... there raises the question why there are OC 's ?
Providers can then make the 'business' and not with a eg
comparatively, mickrigen monthly rent content. Why do you need
OC employees ? Strange......


But then there would be no game selection for the players, only Playngo, or only BTG in a casino. Would also be boring

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