@capriz
Well then let's get on the dissecting table with your contribution
Instead of babbling and crying around
I do neither, no idea where you read that. Perhaps the discussion overwhelms you...
if you really suspect fraud get a lawyer involved
For this I still need evidence that I - as already mentioned - do not have. In addition, I have repeatedly explained that I can not exclude a Manipulation and that it is even likely.
and stop with ridiculous Youtube videos here wave to push
I have not posted a video here. Youtube is not my video source of choice anyway except for hardware and programming tutorials. Okay and occasionally times Gronkh :-=
It's pathetic enough that you still put money into casinos despite suspicions of fraud.
Well, I have to but since I earn my money .... but even if, why is that pathetic ?
You are welcome to turn your back on Online Casinos and go to the arcade.
Nah, I don't like Spielos. I prefer to decide for myself what I can and cannot do. Why should I leave the decision to you?
You can accuse online casinos of a lot of things like "keeping payouts pending" to entice the player to gamble, refusing payouts due to unclear Bonuses, but explicitly making such harsh accusations because you saw a Youtube video somewhere just shows how bitter you and many others are about their losses.
Oh dear ... again : My assumptions are not based on Youtube videos but on my own observations as well as the posts of various forum participants (these are real people - I assume anyway ) here ...as well as some other sources
I am also not bitter and my losses are in relation to my earnings rather in the pocket money range.
Maybe you can answer me how you think that I am bitter? I hope not only because you do not fit my opinion in the stuff...
The casinos have in no way it necessary to manipulate the games, because they make profit anyway.
This has been said about various car manufacturers, banks, etc. and the truth you get every day in the news around the ears. And these are actually subject to German law and not a loose legislation in a "tax optimization state". Or not ???
The "bank" has an advantage in all respects and you should finally be clear about it.
I am only clear about one thing: You can not be suspicious enough and should - especially when it comes to money - quite critically question. Or would you also trust a troop of Romanian shell players who are "regulated" by a small group of Nigerians so that you give them your money just because they do not need to take advantage of you?
(At this point I apologize to all Romanians and Nigerians that they would have to serve for the example)
Mathematically the casinos make profit anyway and you can see that in the immense growth of this sector
Growth does not exclude fraud and manipulation. Growth is driven by consumer interest. Fraud and manipulation would even generate more growth in terms of profit. Unless fraud/manipulation is (demonstrably) discovered, then the growth for the specific casino goes rapidly into the cellar. One makes halt under other name again...
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capriz wrote on 11/27/2018 at 6:18 pm: hahahahaahahah xD
just too sick what is going on here...
I can't take any posts here seriously anymore what goes in the direction of scam.
@Capritz
I see you have just registered. And immediately you move like the elephant in the china store here in the forum. What do you work?
Unlike you, our reasoning is supported by evidence. If you disagree, feel free to post the basis of your accusations. Even the banks would never have been trusted how cheated, the past taught us the opposite. Why do the honorable game providers all have to move their headquarters to Malta, where the mafia and corrupt politicians have the say? One who can add 1+1 together is already all clear
You can smoke regulators like the MGA, you won't get any help there. They even dare to claim it is also normal when the 0 always comes all day. 😂
Unlike you, our rationale is backed up with evidence.
At this point I would like to distinguish myself. I have no evidence for my contributions, these are based on circumstantial evidence.
Why do the honorable game providers all have to move their headquarters to Malta, where the mafia and corrupt politicians have the say?
Many providers have their headquarters outside Malta. Push Gaming in London - Big Time Gaming in Sidney to name two. I assume you mean the casino operators.
In addition, a company headquarters in Malta is not bad per se - keyword tax optimization. I'm sure every company takes that into consideration, whether highly reputable or not
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So you find it absolutely normal when you log in on the display only random winning results and as soon as you start betting only regular winning patterns come because you start betting such.
I would like to ask someone from the forum to stand up and say that this is the most normal thing in the world. No deviations, side phrases but exactly this fact.
(but only if he is really convinced of it, please no sponsor claims)
Until now, no one in the forum has had the A.... and to say what he honestly recognized in the videos.
Only those who are active only as gamers should make a statement, please no promoters.
I remind you that it will be your teenagers who will be at your door begging for money as they were ripped off by the game providers.
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Latino wrote on 11-28-2018 at 12:19 PM
I remind you that it will be your teenagers who will be at your door begging for money like they were screwed over by the Game Providers.
@capriz:
Would you be so kind not to quote me in someone else's words ?
By the way are still pending the answers to my post ?
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Champion280667 wrote on 28/11/2018 at 16:40: So you find it absolutely normal when you log in on the display only random winning results and as soon as you start to bet only regular winning patterns come because you start to bet such.
I would like to ask someone from the forum to stand up and say that this is the most normal thing in the world. No deviations, side phrases but exactly this fact.
(but only if he is really convinced of it, please no sponsor claims)
Until now, no one in the forum has had the A.... and to say what he honestly recognized in the videos.
Only those who are active only as gamers should make a statement, please no promoters.
I remind you that it will be your teenagers who will be at your door begging for money as they were ripped off by the game providers.
I don't see anything, sorry I just think differently than you - that's my opinion. If you see fraud in it ok, unfortunately I don't see it as "clearly" as you do.
Champion280667 wrote on 11/28/2018 at 4:40 pm
I remind you that it will be your teenagers who will be at your door begging for money like they were screwed over by the Game Providers.
Boh, don't get theatrical now.
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Latino wrote on 11/27/2018 at 9:45 pm: @capriz
I do neither, no idea where you read that. You may be overwhelmed by the discussion...
For this I still need proofs which I - as already mentioned - do not have. In addition I explained several times that I cannot exclude a Manipulation and that it is even probable.
Do not feel so attacked. You do not want to seriously deny that here are funny birds on the road, the absurd claims in the world and even talk about evidence and refer to sources from Youtube. I have not meant you personally with my post.
I have never denied that Online Casinos sometimes cheat their customers. However, I exclude this especially with SLOTS, because these codes are spit by the game Provider and not by the online casino. If we are allowed to criticize something obvious and where we should start first are payouts that casinos refuse, delay or declare void due to non-transparent bonus offers. Until these basic FAIR PLAY rules are upheld for the player, it makes less SENSE to speculate about them. Especially for you, as someone who seems to be just putting in his pocket money
The only thing you may have evidence against are Roulette tables. THEN AVOID the Live Casino for f**k's sake. What is the problem?`Report your suspicions to the authorities. Pick another casino where you don't suspect it, but making such a big fuss about it is just sad to watch. Barking dogs that do nothing and senselessly get upset...
You demand FAIRPLAY and suspect fraud on the part of the CASINO, although you know that online casinos are ILLEGAL. A contradiction in itself
I assure you that I do not feel attacked ! Not even if I am called a highly sick, pathetic, babbling, whining, stupid, inconsistent, in need of therapy, bitter, incompetent loser/spinner/frustrated/illuminati/aluminum hat wearer.
You don't want to deny seriously that here are funny birds on the way, which put absurd statements into the world
Nope, on the contrary! There I am fully with you. Even if I assume that the group of the strange birds with me some other names contains than with you (the obviously strange birds times excluded)
I have never denied that Online Casinos also sometimes cheat their customers.
At this point I could now quote your words, but I suggest you simply read again what you have written in your previous posts so.
However, I exclude this especially with SLOTS, because these codes are spit by the game Provider and not by the online casino
As far as slots are concerned, I have not expressed any suspicion towards the casinos - I have even explained my position in great detail. You do read what I write, don't you ?
If we are allowed to criticize something obvious and where we should start first are payouts that casinos refuse, delay or void due to non-transparent bonus offers. Until these basic FAIR PLAY rules for the player are upheld, it makes less SENSE to speculate about them.
It is good to discuss the obvious - so far you are right! But I don't see why the non-obvious things should not be discussed as well. This is certainly not pointless...
Especially for you, as someone who apparently only puts his pocket money.
How do you know what amount my "pocket money" has and why does that have anything to do with the discussion ?
The only thing you might have evidence against are Roulette tables. THEN AVOID the f**king LIVE CASINO. What is the problem?`Report your suspicions to the authorities. Pick another casino where you don't suspect it, but making such a big fuss about it is just sad to watch. Barking dogs that do nothing and senselessly get upset...
You demand FAIRPLAY and suspect fraud on the part of the CASINO, although you know that online casinos are ILLEGAL. A contradiction in itself
I guess that this paragraph is addressed to Champion280667, as said it would be nice to mark appropriate passages.
I emphasize again: I am not particularly keen on an endless "exchange of blows" and I can be convinced gladly of the opposite but in addition it needs a comprehensible explanation
Circumstantial evidence or not - if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .... You know...
I have a big hunch...
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Well then let's get on the dissecting table with your contribution
I do neither, no idea where you read that. Perhaps the discussion overwhelms you...
For this I still need evidence that I - as already mentioned - do not have. In addition, I have repeatedly explained that I can not exclude a Manipulation and that it is even likely.
I have not posted a video here. Youtube is not my video source of choice anyway except for hardware and programming tutorials. Okay and occasionally times Gronkh :-=
Well, I have to but since I earn my money .... but even if, why is that pathetic ?
Nah, I don't like Spielos. I prefer to decide for myself what I can and cannot do. Why should I leave the decision to you?
Oh dear ... again : My assumptions are not based on Youtube videos but on my own observations as well as the posts of various forum participants (these are real people - I assume anyway ) here ...as well as some other sources
I am also not bitter and my losses are in relation to my earnings rather in the pocket money range.
Maybe you can answer me how you think that I am bitter? I hope not only because you do not fit my opinion in the stuff...
This has been said about various car manufacturers, banks, etc. and the truth you get every day in the news around the ears. And these are actually subject to German law and not a loose legislation in a "tax optimization state". Or not ???
I am only clear about one thing: You can not be suspicious enough and should - especially when it comes to money - quite critically question. Or would you also trust a troop of Romanian shell players who are "regulated" by a small group of Nigerians so that you give them your money just because they do not need to take advantage of you?
(At this point I apologize to all Romanians and Nigerians that they would have to serve for the example)
Growth does not exclude fraud and manipulation. Growth is driven by consumer interest. Fraud and manipulation would even generate more growth in terms of profit. Unless fraud/manipulation is (demonstrably) discovered, then the growth for the specific casino goes rapidly into the cellar. One makes halt under other name again...
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@Capritz
I see you have just registered. And immediately you move like the elephant in the china store here in the forum. What do you work?
Unlike you, our reasoning is supported by evidence. If you disagree, feel free to post the basis of your accusations. Even the banks would never have been trusted how cheated, the past taught us the opposite. Why do the honorable game providers all have to move their headquarters to Malta, where the mafia and corrupt politicians have the say? One who can add 1+1 together is already all clear
You can smoke regulators like the MGA, you won't get any help there. They even dare to claim it is also normal when the 0 always comes all day. 😂
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At this point I would like to distinguish myself. I have no evidence for my contributions, these are based on circumstantial evidence.
Many providers have their headquarters outside Malta. Push Gaming in London - Big Time Gaming in Sidney to name two. I assume you mean the casino operators.
In addition, a company headquarters in Malta is not bad per se - keyword tax optimization. I'm sure every company takes that into consideration, whether highly reputable or not
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I would like to ask someone from the forum to stand up and say that this is the most normal thing in the world. No deviations, side phrases but exactly this fact.
(but only if he is really convinced of it, please no sponsor claims)
Until now, no one in the forum has had the A.... and to say what he honestly recognized in the videos.
Only those who are active only as gamers should make a statement, please no promoters.
I remind you that it will be your teenagers who will be at your door begging for money as they were ripped off by the game providers.
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Would you be so kind not to quote me in someone else's words ?
By the way are still pending the answers to my post ?
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I don't see anything, sorry I just think differently than you - that's my opinion. If you see fraud in it ok, unfortunately I don't see it as "clearly" as you do.
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Boh, don't get theatrical now.
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Do not feel so attacked. You do not want to seriously deny that here are funny birds on the road, the absurd claims in the world and even talk about evidence and refer to sources from Youtube. I have not meant you personally with my post.
I have never denied that Online Casinos sometimes cheat their customers. However, I exclude this especially with SLOTS, because these codes are spit by the game Provider and not by the online casino. If we are allowed to criticize something obvious and where we should start first are payouts that casinos refuse, delay or declare void due to non-transparent bonus offers. Until these basic FAIR PLAY rules are upheld for the player, it makes less SENSE to speculate about them. Especially for you, as someone who seems to be just putting in his pocket money
The only thing you may have evidence against are Roulette tables. THEN AVOID the Live Casino for f**k's sake. What is the problem?`Report your suspicions to the authorities. Pick another casino where you don't suspect it, but making such a big fuss about it is just sad to watch. Barking dogs that do nothing and senselessly get upset...
You demand FAIRPLAY and suspect fraud on the part of the CASINO, although you know that online casinos are ILLEGAL. A contradiction in itself
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I assure you that I do not feel attacked ! Not even if I am called a highly sick, pathetic, babbling, whining, stupid, inconsistent, in need of therapy, bitter, incompetent loser/spinner/frustrated/illuminati/aluminum hat wearer.
Nope, on the contrary! There I am fully with you. Even if I assume that the group of the strange birds with me some other names contains than with you (the obviously strange birds times excluded)
At this point I could now quote your words, but I suggest you simply read again what you have written in your previous posts so.
As far as slots are concerned, I have not expressed any suspicion towards the casinos - I have even explained my position in great detail. You do read what I write, don't you ?
It is good to discuss the obvious - so far you are right! But I don't see why the non-obvious things should not be discussed as well. This is certainly not pointless...
How do you know what amount my "pocket money" has and why does that have anything to do with the discussion ?
I guess that this paragraph is addressed to Champion280667, as said it would be nice to mark appropriate passages.
I emphasize again: I am not particularly keen on an endless "exchange of blows" and I can be convinced gladly of the opposite but in addition it needs a comprehensible explanation
Circumstantial evidence or not - if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .... You know...
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