danny005 wrote on 13.06.2020 at 05:45
At any ATM where a withdrawal by MasterCard is possible. Some banks (eg Sparkasse) take extra fees for this, but is then clearly displayed beforehand. With the ATMs in the supermarket or at the gas station I have so far made good experiences, there you only have to pay the MuchBetter fee (about 1%).
this sounds like a perfect solution to avoid the banks' knowledge about OC.
I also pay by Paysafe Card and buy them online (WKV Wertkartenverkauf) so that many transactions of Paysafecards are in the account statement, but you can use that - if you ask the bank - for anything.
I have the last time nothing high won what would have been worthwhile to pay out but after the one now more and more hears that all savings banks (where I am also a customer) close the accounts, is for me a direct booking of CasinoUmsätzen on the bank account no longer came into question.
Through the MuchBetter alternative, the problem would be completely solved.
Especially since I would not even have to go to a savings bank ATM to pay out.
Then you just have a lot of cash at home what you either have to spend so or but really times at nem Bigwin (1000 € +) would have to Deposit back to the account... but hey : birthday, weihanchten, etc blabla are always good reasons for it
Is there a difference between Neteller and MuchBetter?
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ZuIR4m wrote on 06/13/2020 at 12:23 PM
Although I also pay by Paysafe Card and buy them online ( WKV Wertkartenverkauf) so that many transactions of Paysafecards in the account statement, but that can be used - when asking the bank - yes for anything.
You should always be aware that a bank may cancel an account at any time and the bank is not exactly "Hein Blöd".
Of course, you could also use a Paysafecard for GOG or Steam, but both of these providers also allow payment via Klarna etc....
With a possible demand, it would be funny to explain why you throw money out the window on purpose (service fee of WKV + price at GOG/Steam does not correspond to 100% of the value of the Paysafecard).
Is of course only a theoretical example, but I would not be so sure about this.
If you want to keep the bank out, then you have to buy the PSC offline.
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Royal777 wrote on 12.06.2020 at 20:00
By the way, even if it comes to the reform, it is still possible to play in MGA licensed casinos
However, that should then only be possible in casinos that will not have a German license.
The players in Schleswig-Holstein, for example, can not play on the sites with MGA license, if the casino also has a SH license.
Then the player is forced to play on the SH site.
Why should it be different with an all-German solution?
Ceryoas wrote on 13.06.2020 at 13:02
One should always be aware that a bank may cancel an account at any time and the bank is not exactly "Hein Blöd" now.
Of course, you could use a Paysafecard for GOG or Steam, but both of these providers also allow payment via Klarna etc....
With a possible demand, it would be funny to explain why you throw money out the window on purpose (service fee of WKV + price at GOG/Steam does not correspond to 100% of the value of the Paysafecard).
Is of course only a theoretical example, but I would not be so sure about this.
If you want to keep the bank out, then you have to buy the PSC offline.
But you can also give away PSC, buy for your friends without online banking, etc etc
so clearly the bank is not stupid
but generally it is of course more inconspicuous than bookings directly to the casino
but yes
you're right: To be really 100% safe, you should buy the PSC only at a gas station etc..
which is probably also the best because you can not always buy again PSC on the internet if it does not run so
MalerMeister0815 wrote on 06/12/2020 at 10:30 am: Hi all, I had a conversation with my account manager on Monday, during the conversation the Stellv Fialleiter came in.
i was given the choice, either removal of my Dispos and cancellation of my account or I conclude a "savings contract". Reason I have used my account for illegal gambling activities and if I do not stop you (Haspa) would have to separate from me as a customer. I should show you that I can save my money more instead of sending it to Malta.
My brother (customer of another Haspa branch) is expecting a similar conversation next week. Order via online banking has been deleted and will not be reactivated for the time being.
I felt as if I were sitting in front of a mother who caught her child stealing chocolate cookies.
i puke, regardless of gambling I currently pay in the community eh 3/4 there is not much air again sum X to save
lol the account I would have canceled directly on the spot. Without discussion.
The statement from the branch manager actually only confirms that there is no order from the top, but always in the discretion of the employees on site. If you're dealing with a dweeb, bad luck for you. The vast majority of local employees, however, are more likely to look at the economic merit than at the moral finger.
/It's awesome how some people here are afraid of having their bank account canceled. There are dozens of banks that will accept someone with a regular salary with a kiss
There I give Begbie absolutely right, if a bank puts you so the gun on the chest then that was it, even if it would make trouble if necessary in the business, us private traffic (or of course also in the casinos) the Bankverbindung zu korrigien.
I would proceed as follows (assuming you do not currently need a Dispo):
I would agree that I no longer play from the account, but also do not conclude the contract.
Then I would create a 2nd account.
If the account is operable I would change all my payment methods to the account.
Lastly, cancel the account, because who knows what else they will come up with to push you into any contracts.
If I wanted to gamble in the meantime I would do this via an e-wallet (Skrill & Co).
But even if you are not able to cancel the account, e.g. due to a used overdraft facility, this should still be your goal in the medium term - as Begbie already wrote, there are enough alternatives.
PS: In my dutiful way I would still call the customer service representative and ask for time because I would like to inform me in several financial forums about the case, then at the end of the conversation then ask again for the name of the consultant.
PSS: When I think about it, I would already visit the appropriate forums.
Begbie wrote on 06/13/2020 at 2:11 pm
lol i would have cancelled the account right there on the spot. Without discussion.
The statement from the branch manager actually only confirms that there is just no order from the top, but always in the discretion of the employees on site. If you're dealing with a dweeb, bad luck for you. The vast majority of local employees, however, are more likely to look at the economic merit than at the moral finger.
/It's awesome how some people here are afraid of having their bank account canceled. There are dozens of banks that will accept someone with a regular salary with a kiss.
That may be true, but often it is also so that the Dispo is exhausted and you may still have nen
Installment loan running. Sometimes the Schufa is still so shitty that another bank will not take you. And to change with an overdrawn account is not always pleasant...
bruffl wrote on 13.06.2020 at 14:58
That may be correct, but it is often the case that the overdraft is exhausted and you may still have nen
Installment credit on the run. Tlw. is the Schufa then still so shitty that another bank does not take. And to change with an overdrawn account is not always pleasant...
fortunately, I've never had a negative overdraft with my 29 years, let alone any credit.
on the contrary: I have a monthly standing order of 1000€ savings on my money market account which I can also usually fully serve.
But nevertheless I would like that the bank does not come to me on it... already alone because of credit for house construction
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this sounds like a perfect solution to avoid the banks' knowledge about OC.
I also pay by Paysafe Card and buy them online (WKV Wertkartenverkauf) so that many transactions of Paysafecards are in the account statement, but you can use that - if you ask the bank - for anything.
I have the last time nothing high won what would have been worthwhile to pay out but after the one now more and more hears that all savings banks (where I am also a customer) close the accounts, is for me a direct booking of CasinoUmsätzen on the bank account no longer came into question.
Through the MuchBetter alternative, the problem would be completely solved.
Especially since I would not even have to go to a savings bank ATM to pay out.
Then you just have a lot of cash at home what you either have to spend so or but really times at nem Bigwin (1000 € +) would have to Deposit back to the account... but hey : birthday, weihanchten, etc blabla are always good reasons for it
Is there a difference between Neteller and MuchBetter?
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You should always be aware that a bank may cancel an account at any time and the bank is not exactly "Hein Blöd".
Of course, you could also use a Paysafecard for GOG or Steam, but both of these providers also allow payment via Klarna etc....
With a possible demand, it would be funny to explain why you throw money out the window on purpose (service fee of WKV + price at GOG/Steam does not correspond to 100% of the value of the Paysafecard).
Is of course only a theoretical example, but I would not be so sure about this.
If you want to keep the bank out, then you have to buy the PSC offline.
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However, that should then only be possible in casinos that will not have a German license.
The players in Schleswig-Holstein, for example, can not play on the sites with MGA license, if the casino also has a SH license.
Then the player is forced to play on the SH site.
Why should it be different with an all-German solution?
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But you can also give away PSC, buy for your friends without online banking, etc etc
so clearly the bank is not stupid
but generally it is of course more inconspicuous than bookings directly to the casino
but yes
you're right: To be really 100% safe, you should buy the PSC only at a gas station etc..
which is probably also the best because you can not always buy again PSC on the internet if it does not run so
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also not bad
Ultimately, but I do not care if I save 10 or 20 € if I throw the money to the casinos in the throat
The main thing is that the bank gets nothing with
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lol the account I would have canceled directly on the spot. Without discussion.
The statement from the branch manager actually only confirms that there is no order from the top, but always in the discretion of the employees on site. If you're dealing with a dweeb, bad luck for you. The vast majority of local employees, however, are more likely to look at the economic merit than at the moral finger.
/It's awesome how some people here are afraid of having their bank account canceled. There are dozens of banks that will accept someone with a regular salary with a kiss
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I would proceed as follows (assuming you do not currently need a Dispo):
I would agree that I no longer play from the account, but also do not conclude the contract.
Then I would create a 2nd account.
If the account is operable I would change all my payment methods to the account.
Lastly, cancel the account, because who knows what else they will come up with to push you into any contracts.
If I wanted to gamble in the meantime I would do this via an e-wallet (Skrill & Co).
But even if you are not able to cancel the account, e.g. due to a used overdraft facility, this should still be your goal in the medium term - as Begbie already wrote, there are enough alternatives.
PS: In my dutiful way I would still call the customer service representative and ask for time because I would like to inform me in several financial forums about the case, then at the end of the conversation then ask again for the name of the consultant.
PSS: When I think about it, I would already visit the appropriate forums.
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That may be true, but often it is also so that the Dispo is exhausted and you may still have nen
Installment loan running. Sometimes the Schufa is still so shitty that another bank will not take you. And to change with an overdrawn account is not always pleasant...
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fortunately, I've never had a negative overdraft with my 29 years, let alone any credit.
on the contrary: I have a monthly standing order of 1000€ savings on my money market account which I can also usually fully serve.
But nevertheless I would like that the bank does not come to me on it... already alone because of credit for house construction
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