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Online Casinos in general: Hacker attack on Merkur Bets (Page 17)

Topic created on 14th Mar. 2025 | Page: 17 of 22 | Answers: 326 | Views: 26,652
Pneumatic
Top Member

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 11:39 am CET#241
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Today I received this e-mail from Protectra:

it has been a long journey, but we have reached our destination: first the European Court of Justice and now, at the end of last year, the Federal Court of Justice have endorsed our view and affirmed a claim for damages in the event of data leaks. This confirms the argument we have been developing for a good five years, which many higher regional courts had still rejected: You have suffered damage as a result of the loss of control, which must be compensated by a monetary payment.

You had stated in your application that you had legal expenses insurance. In order for us and our cooperation lawyers to be able to work for you, we still need the details of your legal expenses Insurance, which you can provide in this form. If you instruct us with legal expenses insurance, you will not pay a success fee, but will receive 100% of the amount won. We will also cover your excess if you are unsuccessful (if you win, your opponent will have to reimburse you). With the Federal Court of Justice behind you, your claim will then go to court very quickly.

We have compiled the relevant information about your claims in our "Frequently Asked Questions" on our website. You are sure to find what you are looking for here.

We look forward to your cooperation and to helping you achieve success very quickly.

Yours sincerely from Monheim am Rhein

Team Protectra (formerly kleinfee)

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frapi07
Elite

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 11:57 am CET#242
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Pneumatic wrote on 26.03.2025 at 11:39 am: Today I received this mail from Protectra:

it's been a long journey, but we've reached our destination: first the European Court of Justice and now, at the end of last year, the Federal Court of Justice have endorsed our view and affirmed a claim for damages in the event of data leaks. This confirms the argument we have been developing for a good five years, which many higher regional courts had still rejected: You have suffered damage as a result of the loss of control, which must be compensated by a monetary payment.

You had stated in your application that you had legal expenses insurance. In order for us and our cooperation lawyers to be able to work for you, we still need the details of your legal expenses Insurance, which you can provide in this form. If you instruct us with legal expenses insurance, you will not pay a success fee, but will receive 100% of the amount won. We will also cover your excess if you are unsuccessful (if you win, the opponent will have to reimburse you). With the Federal Court of Justice behind you, your claim will then go to court very quickly.

We have compiled the relevant information about your claims in our "Frequently Asked Questions" on our website. You are sure to find what you are looking for here.

We look forward to your cooperation and to helping you achieve success very quickly.

Yours sincerely from Monheim am Rhein

Team Protectra (formerly kleinfee)

Is it possible to register if you don't have legal expenses insurance and what is the difference? Is the potential compensation higher if you have it?

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Pneumatic
Top Member

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 12:37 pm CET#243
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So without Insurance it is also possible, but Protectra then takes 25% success fee, with insurance this is probably not applicable and you get 100% paid out

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upola
Legend

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 01:07 pm CET#244
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A question in the round?

If you really get compensation, will your data be more secure and no one can do anything with it?

Or are you just looking for a quick buck?

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Zockerbernd
Amateur

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 01:28 pm CET#245
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upola wrote on 26.03.2025 at 13:07: A question in the round?

If you really get compensation, will your data be more secure and no one can do anything with it?

Or are you just looking for a quick buck?

Huh, what do you mean? Nobody knows how many people secretly used the data before Wittmann. Why should the data be more secure if you sue Merkur? Can you explain what you mean in more detail?

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GambleMike
Visitor

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 01:29 pm CET#246
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Well, compensation means money In addition, anyone can think about whether they want to claim information. There are plenty of examples.... Incidentally, this is also an option against unsolicited e-mail advertising, as is apparently currently being practiced. From a law firm, of all people, advertising "up to 5,000 euros in compensation". How dubious is that, please? Just take a look at the BGH case law on Facebook to see how unrealistic that has become. It would be interesting to find out where they got the email address from, as this could possibly be an indication that other people had access to the data after all... In any case, as the person affected, you can see more clearly after obtaining information and, if necessary, draw further conclusions to prevent further damage. This could, for example, include claims for erasure.

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frapi07
Elite

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 02:17 pm CET#247
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upola wrote on 26.03.2025 at 13:07: A question in the round?

If you really get compensation, will your data be more secure and no one can do anything with it?

Or are you just looking for a quick buck?

No, the data is not more secure. The data must be protected from third parties. This is regulated by law to prevent misuse. But the data has been lost (regardless of whether it was a good hacker or not). The data was analyzed and evaluated. Without your consent. Companies are not allowed to do this, which is why you are entitled to compensation.

That is already a fact.

However, as you have already read several times, even the hacker cannot rule out the possibility that others have used it before her. She can't know, it's logical. So you don't know: a) how often a data theft has taken place and b) how long this "security gap" existed. There is also a claim here because you could theoretically be affected.

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Danny0815
Visitor

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 02:42 pm CET#248
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I have now also joined the potential class action or registered for it (Protectra).
Earlier in the thread, someone had mentioned problems with sending the form, which I also had.
Closing the page(s) and then reloading it or opening it in a different browser was the solution for me.
upola wrote on 26.03.2025 at 13:07: A question in the round?

If you really get compensation, is your data more secure and no one can do anything with it?

Or are you just looking for a quick buck?

Of course the data won't be more secure.
However, it might have a certain indirect effect on the rest of the industry, some of whom might then be more concerned about data security...
Making a quick buck is actually not my motivation here. Firstly, because this story could possibly take years to conclude & secondly, because in my case it will probably amount to a very small sum, as my personal data is significantly less affected than that of many others.

I'm actually 99% concerned with the principle here. They screwed up and are now trying everything they can to get out as cheaply as possible.
You don't have to make it extra easy for them and forego the available and appropriate legal process in my opinion.

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upola
Legend

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 04:54 pm CET#249
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frapi07 wrote on March 26th, 2025 at 2:17 pm:

No, this does not make the data more secure.

That was exactly my question.

So it's all about collecting money.

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Justus34
Visitor

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 05:35 pm CET#250
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upola wrote on March 26th, 2025 at 4:54 pm:

That was exactly my question.

So it's all about collecting money.

If someone drives the bumper off your car, don't you want compensation? I think that's legitimate and that's why I'm involved in the Protectra class action. It's not as if we could all buy a house out of it, but I think compensation for the fact that my data, and such sensitive data at that, is being handled carelessly is justified.

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Justus34
Visitor

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 05:39 pm CET#251
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Kapykapy wrote on 26.03.2025 at 09:03: I received an email from lawyers today. They are not allowed to have my e-mail either. Was therefore never active.


Can it get any bolder? Unbelievable.

But it would be really interesting to know how they got the data and what data they still have.

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frapi07
Elite

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 06:03 pm CET#252
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upola wrote on March 26th, 2025 at 4:54 pm:

That was exactly my question.

So it's all about collecting money.

Justus has already written it. You don't get much in the way of compensation. I think a few hundred euros (since ID photos are part of the data). I mean, without a guarantee that no one other than this hacker has your ID as a picture, these few hundred euros (if any) are only a minimal compensation that you get. The potential damage is worth much more.

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DieWunderharke5000
Expert

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 06:28 pm CET#253
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In addition to the possible compensation, I also think it is important that the whole story has consequences for Merkur.

This is such an incredible treasure trove of data that, according to Lilith Wittmann, was lying around unencrypted and more or less publicly. And Merkur is acting as if it's nothing. In almost 2 weeks, they still haven't managed to answer which of my data is affected.

It's also exciting that Wittmann has also uncovered connections to illegal casinos. That would be a task for GGL and the public prosecutor's office.

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Justus34
Visitor

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

26th Mar. 2025, at 06:35 pm CET#254
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frapi07 wrote on March 26th, 2025 at 6:03 pm:

Justus has already written it. You don't get much in the way of compensation. I think a few hundred euros (since ID pictures are part of the data). I mean, without a guarantee that no one other than this hacker has your ID as a picture, these few hundred euros (if any) are only a minimal compensation that you get. The potential damage is worth much more.

Especially as the email from the alleged lawyers indicates that data has been leaked.

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Zockerbernd
Amateur

Hacker attack on Merkur Bets

27th Mar. 2025, at 08:06 am CET#255
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upola wrote on March 26th, 2025 at 4:54 pm:

That was exactly my question.

So it's all about collecting money.

Why don't you explain what you're getting at? You're somehow acting as if it's about claiming your losses? How are the data supposed to be safe after the indictment if it has already been lost beforehand and you don't know how many people "exploited the gap" before Wittmann?

There should definitely be really tough consequences for Merkur, but everything so far indicates that once again nothing will happen.

Merkur hasn't even apologized, put it that way.

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