Elcarado: because of 100€ proof of income + perso "selfie"?!?
3rd Nov. 2020, at 11:09 am CET#21
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gamble1 wrote on 02.11.2020 at 21:39: guys I have a completely different guess that just came to me
I would bet that a customer who leaves a lot of money there will not be asked to follow such a chicanery no matter how much he wants to pay out
Because if this person says listen you can kiss my ass they will soon not be well anymore
I think this is under the guise of "we have to" a way to keep players who do not bring much revenue away from the + area
What do you say?
In the meantime I see it exactly the same way. On inquiry it was said on the part of "We are obligated since the new regulation to require these documents" yes no, is clear
Elcarado: because of 100€ proof of income + perso "selfie"?!?
3rd Nov. 2020, at 06:39 pm CET#22
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I think they will want to achieve some kind of quota. For example, if you have ten customers a month, that's what they want. They'll be looking for customers like that:
A) Do not pay in much (a customer who can be forgiven)
Or
B) One who has a high payout (so he gambles it all away again with this long procedure)
Thus, you can prove that you are oh so super OC and act lawfully...
Elcarado: because of 100€ proof of income + perso "selfie"?!?
3rd Nov. 2020, at 08:29 pm CET#23
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moody wrote on 03.11.2020 at 18:39: I think they will want to achieve some kind of quota. For example, at Ten customers a month is required. That's when they pick customers like that:
A) Don't pay in much (a customer who can be forgiven)
Or
B) One who has a high payout (so he gambles it all away again with this long procedure)
Thus, you can prove that you are oh so super OC and act lawfully....
But would still have to be either all or none
I'm really convinced a lot of players with high losses is certainly not prompted to do so would be as you say extreme if the customer evades to alternatives
I can't even tell you if that's what the regulations say.
I was on the phone with an account manager at one of my favorite casinos on Friday and this topic came up as well.
Soon this scenario will be like this everywhere:
Verification with docs as before, plus selfie with ID and website open in the background, proof of salary and credit report.
The casinos can't do anything about that, it comes from above.
It's madness, but everything is regulated in a broken way.
I had to do that already in 2017, even then the full program, but with me it was very large deposits and withdrawals, I could already understand.
But because of 50 or 29 euros, that is more than questionable.
Have a nice Sunday!
Schufa information because of gambling well then good night
If there are two things that can never do anything good together on this planet is it Schufa and gambling
If only a casino makes a request you can forget about a credit anywhere it's like the Blacklist of the bank only overlapping on pretty much everything that comes up with a contract in DE
There is then for me a point reached that can not I let me but not my credit rating messed up because DE drives a rail where they want to destroy everything where they do not earn 100%
Then they would also have to demand from everyone in the casino everything because there it is theoretically without restrictions even more dangerous than online but hey there it's totally ok if you spend 50k in a few hours goes to 100% to Father State who protects us so great
Elcarado: because of 100€ proof of income + perso "selfie"?!?
4th Nov. 2020, at 12:28 pm CET#25
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Give you times copy to make it a little clearer:
DRAFT for a State Treaty on the New Regulation of Gambling in Germany and the Establishment of the Joint State Institute for Gambling Supervision (GLA GlückAuf)
§ Section 32 Player and Youth Protection Concept
(3) In order to participate in a game of chance on the Internet, a player must be registered as a customer with the licensee. The registration must contain at least all data pursuant to Section 14 (3) as well as the payment method by which deposits and withdrawals are made on the virtual gaming account
(4) Participation in gaming must be prevented, as long as the data specified in paragraph 3 has not been verified. This can be done, for example, by checking against 1. databases whose data records have been verified by credit agencies or original face-to-face checks (e.g. Schufa, Post Office, banks),
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Elcarado: because of 100€ proof of income + perso "selfie"?!?
4th Nov. 2020, at 01:25 pm CET#26
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gamble1 wrote on 03.11.2020 at 20:34
Schufa information because of gambling well then good night
If there are two things that can never do anything good together on this planet it is Schufa and gambling
If only a casino makes a request you can forget about a credit anywhere it's like the Blacklist of the bank only overlapping on pretty much everything that comes in DE with a contract
There is then for me a point reached that can not I let me but not my credit rating messed up because DE drives a rail where they want to destroy everything where they do not earn 100%
Then they would also have to demand from everyone in the casino everything because there it is theoretically without restrictions even more dangerous than online but hey there it's totally ok if you spend 50k in a few hours goes to 100% to Father State who protects us so great
DE = only dirt
an inquiry of a casino with the Schufa for the purpose of age and identity check has purely no effect on the credit rating. These inquiries are credit rating neutral, and if you had insight into your Schufa, you would be surprised who has already made an inquiry about it. Even if you register with Netflix or Sky Ticket, a data comparison request is made to Schufa. The inquiries are not transmitted to the banks for the credit decision, because they have no influence on your creditworthiness
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4th Nov. 2020, at 03:11 pm CET#27
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why is it necessary to make another age or identity inquiry with schufa if they already have the identity card and other confirmations? do you have to understand this?
Elcarado: because of 100€ proof of income + perso "selfie"?!?
4th Nov. 2020, at 04:40 pm CET#28
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 04.11.2020 at 15:11: why must be made at the schufa again an age or identity request if the but already have the ID and other confirmations are available? do you have to understand?
Well, an ID card can theoretically falsify the records at the Schufe rather not and if there suddenly appears what was not there in advance, everyone would also be skeptical
@unicorn
Why on earth could my bank then ask me why I wanted to open an account with another bank the message about it was only in the Schufa
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4th Nov. 2020, at 04:43 pm CET#29
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Was with me the days even the case. I can view my credit data online and check it every now and then. Has the company - Play Cherry Limited - made a request for identity or age verification. So can only have been sunmaker, sunnyplayer or Cherrycasino. At Sunmaker and Sunnyplayer I am already verified for years and Cherry I have deposited so far only 1-2x
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4th Nov. 2020, at 05:04 pm CET#30
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gamble1 wrote on 04/11/2020 at 16:40
@unicorn
Why on earth could my bank then ask me why I wanted to open an account at another bank the message about it was only in the Schufa
Because opening a bank account has nothing to do with an age or identity check and does affect your credit rating. Especially if you want to open an account with an overdraft facility, a credit inquiry is made to Schufa, which of course also affects your credit rating. The more such inquiries, the lower your credit rating. And of course, your bank also gets an insight into it. Because no one will give you an (overdraft) loan if you already have 10 other checking cards, because your credit rating is then usually very poor.
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In the meantime I see it exactly the same way. On inquiry it was said on the part of "We are obligated since the new regulation to require these documents" yes no, is clear
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A) Do not pay in much (a customer who can be forgiven)
Or
B) One who has a high payout (so he gambles it all away again with this long procedure)
Thus, you can prove that you are oh so super OC and act lawfully...
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But would still have to be either all or none
I'm really convinced a lot of players with high losses is certainly not prompted to do so would be as you say extreme if the customer evades to alternatives
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Schufa information because of gambling well then good night
If there are two things that can never do anything good together on this planet is it Schufa and gambling
If only a casino makes a request you can forget about a credit anywhere it's like the Blacklist of the bank only overlapping on pretty much everything that comes up with a contract in DE
There is then for me a point reached that can not I let me but not my credit rating messed up because DE drives a rail where they want to destroy everything where they do not earn 100%
Then they would also have to demand from everyone in the casino everything because there it is theoretically without restrictions even more dangerous than online but hey there it's totally ok if you spend 50k in a few hours goes to 100% to Father State who protects us so great
DE = Only dirt
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DRAFT for a State Treaty on the New Regulation of Gambling in Germany and the Establishment of the Joint State Institute for Gambling Supervision (GLA GlückAuf)
§ Section 32 Player and Youth Protection Concept
(3) In order to participate in a game of chance on the Internet, a player must be registered as a customer with the licensee. The registration must contain at least all data pursuant to Section 14 (3) as well as the payment method by which deposits and withdrawals are made on the virtual gaming account
(4) Participation in gaming must be prevented, as long as the data specified in paragraph 3 has not been verified. This can be done, for example, by checking against 1. databases whose data records have been verified by credit agencies or original face-to-face checks (e.g. Schufa, Post Office, banks),
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an inquiry of a casino with the Schufa for the purpose of age and identity check has purely no effect on the credit rating. These inquiries are credit rating neutral, and if you had insight into your Schufa, you would be surprised who has already made an inquiry about it. Even if you register with Netflix or Sky Ticket, a data comparison request is made to Schufa. The inquiries are not transmitted to the banks for the credit decision, because they have no influence on your creditworthiness
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Well, an ID card can theoretically falsify the records at the Schufe rather not and if there suddenly appears what was not there in advance, everyone would also be skeptical
@unicorn
Why on earth could my bank then ask me why I wanted to open an account with another bank the message about it was only in the Schufa
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Because opening a bank account has nothing to do with an age or identity check and does affect your credit rating. Especially if you want to open an account with an overdraft facility, a credit inquiry is made to Schufa, which of course also affects your credit rating. The more such inquiries, the lower your credit rating. And of course, your bank also gets an insight into it. Because no one will give you an (overdraft) loan if you already have 10 other checking cards, because your credit rating is then usually very poor.
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