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Online Casinos in general: Do you get preferential treatment as a new player? (Page 5)

Topic created on 07th Sep. 2018 | Page: 5 of 9 | Answers: 81 | Views: 18,391
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Do you get preferential treatment as a new player?

7th Sep. 2018, at 09:41 pm CEST#41
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Gratler wrote on 07/09/2018 at 21:36


It is mathematically as good as impossible 2-3 months to win only, because the casino has a house advantage in all games
maybe you should do some math instead of accusing other people of "abnormal logic"


In the lottery, the chances of winning are 1:140 million, and yet someone cracks it almost every week.

Since it should be possible that with tens of millions of players throughout Europe, someone wins over a longer period of time
Wins over a longer period. But that doesn't happen.

So much for the mathematics......
It is very possible, calculate again....

You can't necessarily explain everything with mathematics.

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Tropper
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Do you get preferential treatment as a new player?

7th Sep. 2018, at 09:46 pm CEST#42
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Daniel wrote on 07/09/2018 at 21:26
What kind of tour. Do you know how we make money? We make money when a player decides to play through us at a casino. We then get a one time commission per player. Economically, we profit from people who keep switching casinos because they think new players have advantages. I should actually write that it is exactly the same or that I think so too. But I do not, because it is simply not true.

Of course I write that it is normal to lose, because it is normal! With the gambling one loses evenly - except one has luck. Where should I get the examples that players consistently win 2-3 months? There are always cases where a player deposits relatively little money and then wins €50,000+. But this is rare, because the house advantage is on the side of the casinos. You all underestimate the house advantage.

I wouldn't deny that game manufacturers update their games from time to time. There is so much design freedom there. Example:

Let's say I developed Book of Dead, and let's say Book of Dead has an AQ of 95%. Then I could take out some explorer symbols on the reels, but add some small symbols on the reels. I could calculate this so that the probability of 5 explorers is even smaller than it already is, but the game pays out several smaller wins, which the players usually gamble away again. Then the players have the feeling that the AQ of 95% can't be any more. But the AQ remains the same, only now players can play longer than before, but big hits become rarer.

I could also program a slot game where you virtually never win, but lose 5% of your bet with every spin. With this game it would be impossible to get into the plus even for a short time. The game would be very predictable and nobody would play it, because you always win back 95 cents per 1€ spin, i.e. you lose 5 cents. After one hour of play (1,200 spins) EVERY player would have lost exactly 60€ and there would never be a winner.

I hope you understand what I want to say. I mean I'm not advertising gambling here - this is rather relentless education and "anti-advertising".

Especially problem gamblers or gambling addicts have to accept that there are no tricks, no secrets, no conspiracies. Then if there are manipulations, it is also possible to find a loophole. For example, let's say I'm an addicted gambler and I believe in this "new customer winning preference". Then my condition will not get better, but only worse, because I then think I can trick the system via this way.

Let's assume I always play in the arcade on the same machine and think it has swallowed so much so it must soon pay out at least 1,000 €. What is the probability that I will get away from this machine with this mindset? But if I know that every spin has the same probability of a win or loss, and if I then know what I'm most likely to lose in the next hour of play, then at least I'm more likely to stop. Teenagers and young adults in particular are very susceptible to such things and I'm sure that if this target group were better educated, many would not develop a Gambling addiction in the first place, but would just see gambling as a pastime for in between.

And that's exactly what I thought you were basing it on probability. That's why I posted the examples above. It's true what I meant about bugs and J, I was able to test it extensively myself for about 2 months and sure enough as if on cue the free spins always came in. There is more to it, or why do they say "oh this game is on" or "this slot is hot right now"?


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Daniel
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Do you get preferential treatment as a new player?

7th Sep. 2018, at 09:48 pm CEST#43
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stkrie wrote on 07/09/2018 at 21:41

In the lottery, the odds of winning are 1 in 140 million, and yet someone cracks it almost every week.

Since it should be well possible that with tens of millions of players throughout Europe times someone wins over a longer
Wins over a longer period. But that doesn't happen.

So much for the mathematics......
It is very possible, calculate again....

By the way, lotto has the worst AQ of all Games of chance with about 50%. If lotto could be played like Slot machines (20 games a minute), then there would be eating phases that no one has ever experienced before. With Lotto one would lose on the average 600€ per play hour, if one could play Lotto with an employment of only one euro in such a way, like play automats. The loss would be 10 times higher than with Book of Dead & Co.

And if someone hits the Jackpot almost every week, it's because an extremely large number of people play the lottery on a regular basis. Most of them don't just fill in one box, but several. So the 140 million "spins" come together relatively quickly. And yet not every week is a win, because there are deviations and the lottery is based on chance and probability.

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Gratler
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Do you get preferential treatment as a new player?

7th Sep. 2018, at 09:49 pm CEST#44
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stkrie wrote on 07/09/2018 at 21:41

In the lottery, the odds of winning are 1 in 140 million, and yet someone cracks it almost every week.

Since it should be well possible that with tens of millions of players throughout Europe times someone wins over a longer
Wins over a longer period. But that doesn't happen.

So much for the mathematics......
It is very possible, calculate again....


How do you know that not someone from the tens of millions of players 2 months only won? Maybe there is someone in some English village to which this has happened... but that's 99.9999% not you, that's not me and no one from this forum here (unfortunately ) ...

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Daniel
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Do you get preferential treatment as a new player?

7th Sep. 2018, at 09:55 pm CEST#45
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Tropper wrote on 07/09/2018 at 21:46

And that's what I thought you were basing it on probability. That's why I posted the examples above. It is true what I meant about bugs and J, I was able to test it extensively myself for about 2 months and indeed as if on cue the free games always came in. There is more to it, or why do they say "oh this game is on" or "this slot is hot right now"?

There are no hot slots. There are lucky streaks but how often do you have one if you are honest? If you play long enough and often enough, you will experience a hot streak and many, many unlucky streaks (which is the norm).

This thing with beetles and J I have never tested and I can not form a judgment about it. Does this "trick" still work? If so, I would even test it (if it works in play money mode). I can still play Book of Ra from Malta.

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Daniel
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7th Sep. 2018, at 09:58 pm CEST#46
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Gratler wrote on 07/09/2018 at 21:49

How do you know that someone out of the tens of millions of players didn't just win for 2 months? Maybe there is someone in some English village to whom that happened... but that's 99,9999% not you, that's not me and also no one from this forum here (unfortunately ) ...

It was a few years ago but a woman from England actually hit a Jackpot twice on the same day in an online casino - at least one of them was a million jackpot, maybe both. But don't nail me down on that, I would have to research to find that.

Edit: It even happened to one player twice this year: https://www.casinoeuro.com/de/blog/jackpots/zwei-unwerfende-jackpots-zwei-monaten/

Yeah, it's all just marketing I know. But it could be true and if it is, then something like this happens from time to time.

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Do you get preferential treatment as a new player?

7th Sep. 2018, at 09:59 pm CEST#47
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- with the gambling one loses evenly...... ... except one has evenly luck. Is your own statement . With the transmitter sport 1 you would have to pay at the latest now into Phrasenschwein. But now seriously. Your logic does not work. I read your comments also only with a smile. Until today (once again emailed) I also only read along. It makes mood And the most important! I never pay in thousands of Euro's again . It was an awesome time . Much won (in the early days - there we would be back to the initial topic), and lost an insane amount, while paying in steadily. I pay now per month only 100 euros. Thus I allow myself a little pleasure, make no one rich, and save much of the salary. Life is normal again. I love it

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Do you get preferential treatment as a new player?

7th Sep. 2018, at 10:01 pm CEST#48
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No, not for a long time. Such "constellations" were always different after a few months. I have found only the video with the 3 explorers, which also comes from kingtut. At that time there was one which showed the constellation and with commentary


Have just searched and found:


It was not a fake but the pure truth.
I could not believe it myself but it worked!
Is from Kingtut


greetings

PS: I do not want to encourage anyone to gamble, it is unfortunately old cheese!!!

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Daniel
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Do you get preferential treatment as a new player?

7th Sep. 2018, at 10:07 pm CEST#49
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Sigura43 wrote on 07/09/2018 at 21:59: I never pay in thousands of Euro's again . It was an awesome time . Won a lot ( in the early days - there we are back to the initial topic) , and lost an insane amount , paying in steadily . I pay now per month only 100 euros. Thus I allow myself a little pleasure, make no one rich, and save much of the salary. Life is normal again. I love it

Initial time much won and then much lost. That's how it usually goes, because if you lose a lot in the early days, then you usually do not become a player who deposits thousands. Of course, every lucky streak ends sometimes and you experience the nature of gambling. You just had bad luck by being lucky in the beginning. But in the meantime you are playing sensibly and having fun, and that's how it should be in the best case.

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7th Sep. 2018, at 10:47 pm CEST#50
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Correct ! And with correct I remain that exactly is arranged, who wins how much, or loses. For this I have experienced too much strange in many casinos. Sometimes you come across honest. But actually you are appendage of the Casino's. Have all times an ass in the pants, and be honest with yourself. That is character

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