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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 18)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 18 of 25 | Answers: 240 | Views: 68,907
KayRONALDOne
Rookie
Which bank are you with and was your account closed beforehand?
What period of time is specified?

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Johnny54

KayRONALDOne wrote on 25.03.2024 at 20:14: Which bank are you with and was your account closed before?
What date range is specified?

I had a credit card from another bank (not my house bank) that was canceled last year, probably because of the unusual bookings. Period is given from 2019 to 2023

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Telsos

Johnny54 wrote on March 25th, 2024 at 8:05 pm:

Of course you're right about what you say, but it can still make you feel queasy if you've never had anything to do with the police and suddenly a letter like this flutters into your house.


So you're saying that in the worst case it would only be a fine of a few hundred euros?
That reassures me a little that I wouldn't have to worry anymore..

I think I'll wait a little longer before contacting the lawyer and I won't answer the questionnaire.

So I didn't just put it away, of course I also had to fight with it internally for 2-3 days, as it's also my first contact with the police/public prosecutor's office. And that's precisely why doing nothing and waiting was out of the question for me, so I went to a lawyer. That's my daily bread and butter and I trust a lawyer more, even if he's out to make a bit of money out of it.

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Solos1995
Rookie

Johnny54 wrote on March 25th, 2024 at 8:20 pm:

I had a credit card from another bank (not my house bank) that was canceled last year, probably because of the unusual bookings. Period is from 2019 to 2023

Until 2023? In my case they talk about "since June 2021"

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mtorero
Rookie

Johnny54 wrote on March 25th, 2024 at 8:05 pm:

Of course you're right about what you say, but it can still make you queasy if you've never had anything to do with the police and suddenly a letter like this flutters into your house.


So you're saying that in the worst case it would only be a fine of a few hundred euros?
That reassures me a little that I wouldn't have to worry anymore..

I think I'll wait a little longer before contacting the lawyer and I won't answer the questionnaire.

If you feel a bit queasy about it, that's understandable, but don't stress about it any more because you can't change it anyway. You are not the only one, hundreds of thousands of other criminal online casino players are being and have been reported by their bank. (By the way, my bank has only made a lot of money from gambling transaction fees over the years lol)

As I said, you will almost certainly receive a letter from the public prosecutor's office at some point with a dismissal of the case but at the same time a threat to continue your gambling activities only with Novomatic&Merkur (GGL whitelist), otherwise you will not be punished next time.
Thanks be to corruption 🙏

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mtorero
Rookie

Telsos wrote on March 25th, 2024 at 8:30 pm:

Well, I didn't just put it away either, of course I also had to fight with it internally for 2-3 days, as it is also my first contact with the police / public prosecutor's office. And that's precisely why doing nothing and waiting was out of the question for me, so I went to a lawyer. That's my daily bread and butter and I trust a lawyer more, even if he's out to make a bit of money out of it.

Keyword lawyer. Don't forget that you're just a banknote with two legs to the nice lawyer, and here in the Gamblejoe News there was a recent report of a case where a trainee ended up in court because of an online casino payout and was punished 100 times more severely than the Remmo clan members together for their century-long robbery in the Green Vault.


The poor trainee probably made the mistake of making a statement to the police, who were probably able to turn it into an investigation into money laundering, which of course had lawyers and judges rubbing their hands raw 😈

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Anonymus
Rookie
More and more people are reporting these letters... and if you look at the calls for this forum, then you know exactly how many people read along here and are perhaps also afraid of being confronted with something like this.

55.000 views in this forum, wow
I think that all people who have had experience of this in any way should post here so that we can help each other.

It's so awesome that gamblers, who are usually in the red for gambling anyway, should be punished for it.

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frapi07
Expert

Anonymous wrote on 25.03.2024 at 22:32: More and more people are reporting these letters... and if you look at the calls for this forum, then you know exactly how many people read along here and are perhaps also afraid of being confronted with something like this.

55.000 views in this forum, wow
I think that all people who have had experience of this in any way should post here so that we can help each other.

It's so awesome that gamblers, who are usually in the red anyway because of gambling, should be punished for it.

I wouldn't pay much attention to that 55k. You can artificially inflate the number by going to the thread several times. Still, I think the number of people affected could be high. If you think about how many played Platin and co. after July 1, 2021....

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Donnie
Expert
"Ignorance is no defense against punishment". That sentence makes me want to explode and go completely berserk. But the greedy rip-off state seems to apply this to some people in an attempt to squeeze money out of citizens. Just like with the GEZ compulsory fee and other stories. Sometimes the dirty world is simply unfair in many ways. The only halfway positive thing is that the possible penalties are very mild and there are very few who are convicted. The trainee or other victims can buy nothing from it, I know😡

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frapi07
Expert

Donnie wrote on March 25, 2024 at 10:56 pm: "Ignorance is no defense". That sentence makes me want to explode and go completely berserk. But the greedy rip-off state seems to use this with some to try to squeeze money out of the citizen. Just like with the GEZ compulsory fee and other stories. Sometimes the dirty world is simply unfair in many ways. The only halfway positive thing is that the possible penalties are very mild and there are very few who are convicted. The trainee or other victims can't buy anything from it, I know😡

In itself, the sentence is correct, but I understand your point. We are being forced to play in a market that is unattractive. On top of that, it's the purest rip-off. I asked here months ago why Online Casinos are not offered and now Bavaria has actually done it. But I definitely won't be gambling there, as the offer is no good to me. There is only live Roulette, the maximum bet here is 1k/round. Blackjack/roulette/Texas hold em is available as a slot or as a "virtual casino" and there is a max bet of €100 at the BJ. Anyone who has ever played such slots knows what a rip-off it is. The offer is there now, but it's just not attractive to me.

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