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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 12)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 12 of 57 | Answers: 564 | Views: 161,963
Lizzy0805
Experienced

T0uchTheSky wrote on 08/17/2023 at 23:58:

Yes, almost do bad as bootlegs as back then,. They used to show commercials in the theaters all the time before the movie was shown. If you do that you end up in prison for life blah blah, worse than child molesters the pirate copiers were treated.

5 years was all it took, don't get carried away But even though I had buddies who had the complete range of Kino. to on their computers, I don't know anyone who spent even one day in jail for that. You had to program Sasser for that and even he got off lightly. So people, don't panic. Our justice system has much better things to do than to put a few gamblers behind bars, who are for the most part in the red anyway, as far as their gambling record is concerned, and who don't harm anyone but themselves..

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gamble1
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Lizzy0805 wrote on 08/18/2023 at 00:36 PM:

5 years was all it took, let's not get carried away But even though I had buddies who had virtually the full range of Kino. to on their computers, I don't know anyone who sat in jail for even one day because of it. You had to program Sasser for that and even he got off lightly. So people, don't panic. Our justice system has much better things to do than to put a few gamblers behind bars, who are for the most part in the red anyway, as far as their gambling record is concerned, and who don't harm anyone but themselves..

Well you indirectly harm Germany with it would you gamble the coal here it would flow back into the cycle both economically and Steuermäßig so yes haha

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Lizzy0805
Experienced

gamble1 wrote on 08/18/2023 at 00:59 PM:

Well you indirectly harm Germany with it would you gamble the coal here it would flow back into the cycle both economically and taxwise so yes haha

Recently this is also allowed in Germany. Before not. Accordingly, you could not have made it legal at all. Most winners would probably tax their wins immediately and gladly. By criminalizing it, the state makes that impossible. But the legal alternatives are still modest. There is still a lot to be done before they are really competitive.

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gamble1
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Lizzy0805 wrote on 08/18/2023 at 01:23 PM:

Recently this has been allowed in Germany. Before it wasn't. Accordingly, it could not have been done legally at all. Most winners would probably tax their wins immediately and gladly. By criminalizing it, the state makes that impossible. But the legal alternatives are still modest. There is still a lot to be done before they are really competitive.

But you would have always had the possibility to go to a gambling hall or casino as well as to gamble in a kiosk or at some Burger King's (all of the above are more generously regulated as the online boxes)

Thus, it was possible through the gray area and the constant theme avoidance only now just no longer because 100% illegal

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Moerf1994
Moin folks,
I wanted to give you another update regarding my case.
The lawyer had access to the files and contacted the prosecutor's office.
At the moment it looks like the case will be dropped without any conditions or anything else.
This is also my last post in this forum, let the gaming be that can ruin everything for you!!!! I unfortunately lost the love of my life because of this.
I wish all the success who want to stop playing, you can do it!!!

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ramb00
Amateur

Moerf1994 wrote on 08/23/2023 at 11:00: Moin guys,
I wanted to give you guys another update regarding my case.
The lawyer had access to the files and as a result has contacted the prosecutor's office.
Right now it looks like the case will be dropped without any conditions or anything.
This is also my last post in this forum, let the gaming be that can ruin everything for you!!!! I unfortunately lost the love of my life because of this.
I wish all the success that want to stop playing, you can do it!!!!

True words at the end, I can sing a song about it - and it doesn't stop at "lost the love of my life"
You are always the winner only if you keep your hands off - and COMPLETELY!

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Anonym

ramb00 wrote on 08/24/2023 at 2:12 pm:

True words on the endings, I can sing a song about it - and it doesn't stop at "losing the love of my life"
You are only ever the win if you keep your hands off - and COMPLETELY!

That's how it is with a few exceptions that always win. Find it also perfidious that you have to give a reason if you want to close your account by mail and not simply by clicking.

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Cchris1599
Good day, just scrolled through the thread and must honestly say that I'm afraid that something like this happens to me.
I have otherwise always played exclusively at licensed providers with German license until a few days ago, I registered with Stake.com and then once deposited via a crypto wallet 70 €.
The only proof in this regard, the bank would have so the 70 € transfer to the crypto wallet.
From many Germans who play at Stake but I have never heard anything in this regard, but the vast majority are probably not even aware of the legal situation.
How do you assess this?
Is my concern justified?
Thanks a lot!

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Toastbrot
Experienced
Cchris1599 wrote on 14.09.2023 at 06:24: Good day, just scrolled through the thread and must honestly say that I'm afraid that something like this happens to me.
I have otherwise always played exclusively at licensed providers with German license until a few days ago, I registered with Stake.com and then once deposited via a crypto wallet 70€ .
The only proof in this regard, the bank would have so the 70 € transfer to the crypto wallet.
From many Germans who play at Stake but I have never heard anything in this regard, but the vast majority are probably not even aware of the legal situation.
How do you assess this?
Is my concern justified?
Thank you very much!

Since you have not directly deposited in an "unlicensed casino" the concern should be very very unjustified. Since trading is becoming more and more popular I think that if the bank would be interested at all they would first suspect that. Since this is not illegal, the bank is unlikely to be interested in your Deposit to the wallet and ultimately it is the bank that would have to report what they will not do here to 99.9999 percent. It could look different if suddenly very high unusual payments to your bank account from your wallet would come here I would personally probably be a little more careful with casino wins because this could be questioned at some point by the bank.

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Cchris1599
All right, thank you very much for the answer. That calms me down a bit. I have won a five-digit amount with a licensed Provider a few weeks ago and do not dare to withdraw this amount to the bank account because of the reasons already mentioned in the thread. But licensed I should not really worry or?

Have I understood this correctly, if a suspicion quasi exists, the bank notifies the police and they in turn report then ? Because otherwise they do not get such information.

In addition, I wonder what the bank is thinking, if you regularly Deposit over a long period of three-digit amounts at licensed betting providers? Had already considered a conversation with my bank advisor to organize and him about it to clarify, not that it comes at some point to discrepancies.
Thanks!

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