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Online Casinos in general: Bank cancels account! Casino payments at fault? (Page 4)

Topic created on 22nd Jan. 2022 | Page: 4 of 7 | Answers: 66 | Views: 17,153
Anonym
the glass man becomes real and more real
In 2030 according to Soros, Schwab and consorts you will quote: "own nothing more and be happy"
well, that are 8 years but at the latest with the coal exit 2033. one must read the double clear and recognize

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Tonkabohne
Top Member
So I got a call from my VoBa once.

It was about a payment I had made.

However, this was on my credit card account, which I use as a small savings account and they have their headquarters in Luxembourg.

Said it was for a purchase that you can only pay with credit card.

But casino deposits - or withdrawals have never complained 🤷♀️

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t****o

Katharina2 wrote on 24/01/2022 at 14:08
Yes, of course the money comes from account to account or direct deposit.
I had already excluded high amounts, they are always extra
checked. I already wrote. And then I do not have a dream world, but
rather those who get their account notice. Who not yet, has only
a little longer time. From 1 July 2022, the gambling supervision begins with the
Review of illegal casinos. According to your understanding: all garbage.
Unbelievable.

The Joint Gambling Authority of the Länder will take over responsibility for combating illegal gambling on July 1, 2022.

© dpa-infocom, dpa:220102-99-563950/3
Source: DPA

https://www.rtl.de/cms/gluecksspiel-rund-22-400-spieler-neu-gesperrt-4892725.html

None of this has anything to do with your tax loophole.

I don't know if we are talking past each other. The authority is under construction, and not ready for work for quite some time.

Nevertheless, it will start working at some point.

Many here say how stupid you can be to play in a regulated casino (5 sec rule, no autostart etc)

I am convinced that all those will have to pay a high price at some point. >Anyone who knows the German state
rudimentarily knows, will know that it will plug the loopholes a la Curacao, Krypto and Co.
And that is nothing else than tax evasion, once everything is in place

Otherwise, the whole action would make no sense at all, and they should know that

Even without the authority, we already have the effects such as account cancellations, Paysafecard, Skrill, Neteller......

Deposited today 1000€ in cash. That still went halfway. From 2.500€ the bank was obligated to present a proof
of the funds. How should one gamble there in the future still halfway. Except in licensed casinos!

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LittleFu
Amateur
Always with the calm... there are 12 people currently working. For all of Germany!
At the earliest, in the middle of next year, they will be able to take a closer look
the situation times more exactly to look at.

They usually don't have a plan themselves.
Or do you think they pay in and check every slot Provider?

Probably all casinos will lose interest in the German gambling contract
lose. The requirements are too great, and the turnover (then) low.

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Debra2805
Rookie
Hi guys 🙋🏻♂️

For info with Platin it is no longer possible to Deposit if you have an account with TARGOBANK. Is not me personally I know because a buddy of mine had also tried to deposit. Is anyone else here with TARGOBANK and has the problem????? At the same time it is no longer possible to deposit Paysafe cards online via Guthaben.de and Dundle.Com. Had it now since last week daily once tried each time the error message. The bank you have chosen is currently not authorized to perform transactions. No idea what is going on. Account is by the way sufficiently Gedeckt.

Edit from Sabine: font color adjusted

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Chiyo
Rookie
Debra2805 wrote on 01/24/2022 at 8:32 PM: Hi guys 🙋🏻♂️

For info at Platin it is no longer possible to Deposit if you have an account with TARGOBANK. Is not me personally I know because a buddy of mine had also tried to deposit. Is anyone else here with TARGOBANK and has the problem????? At the same time it is no longer possible to deposit Paysafe cards online via Guthaben.de and Dundle.Com. Had it now since last week daily once tried each time the error message. The bank you have chosen is currently not authorized to perform transactions. No idea what is going on. Account is sufficiently covered.

I have also experienced this - various payment providers no longer work. It seems to me that filtering is taking place.

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R3hab
Expert
But why do they close accounts, we send all these documents to the casinos because of the money laundering set
So in the end it's all legitimate because you can trace it....
The bank is doing too well if it cancels people because of this

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Falko
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Peter8 wrote on 24.01.2022 at 23:24: The bank is doing too well if the people therefore terminates

No bank is doing well in Germany anymore. They all have to pay negative interest to the ECB for positive balances of their customers. Banks used to earn money from the credit of their customers, nowadays they only earn money from customers who are in the negative or take out loans there. This is the reason why banks react like this. They are now looking for every little thing to somehow get rid of customers.

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BenOssi123
Rookie
I just think it's a shame that none of the crypto experts here take the 30 minutes to clear up the money flow/transfer from fiat to crypto to crypto casino and the tax law stories for once.

Or to put it simply: How can I simply still play in peace and without fear of criminal consequences in this day and age?

This is such a shame because zb. Stake or Roobet are actually better alternatives to almost all other casinos. Almost all game providers, great RtP, great bonus offers and transactions within seconds, without verification. Imagine a big hit, something like 10k and it's virtually directly on your wallet with the push of a button. No fuss, no drama for days and no stalling tactics from the supposedly reputable casino.

In addition, the crucial question that still no crypto crack has answered: What happens if crypto winnings are converted into fiat at some point and you suddenly transfer €30,000 (apparently pocket money for some here) to the German bank account?

I know that you can disguise some things with crypto, but the bottom line is that any profit ends up back in the bank account at some point and therefore the tax office also receives notification

It's mainly about the conversion and for that you need a bank account.

This whole crypto structure collapses at the latest with higher transactions

Of course, you can also do it naively via 3-4 different stations, transfer smaller sums at most every now and then and hope that the bank or the FA doesn't make a fuss. But that is very naive with the coming tightening and not thought through to the end.

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DrGambling95
Rookie
BenOssi123 wrote on 01/25/2022 at 05:16: I just think it's a shame that no one from the crypto experts here will take the 30 minutes and clear up the money flow/transfer from fiat to crypto to crypto casino and the tax law stories for once.

Or to put it simply: How can I simply still play in peace and without fear of criminal consequences in this day and age?

This is such a shame because zb. Stake or Roobet are actually better alternatives to almost all other casinos. Almost all game providers, great RtP, great bonus offers and transactions within seconds, without verification. Imagine a big hit, something like 10k and it's virtually directly on your wallet with the push of a button. No fuss, no drama for days and no stalling tactics from the supposedly reputable casino.

In addition, the crucial question that still no crypto crack has answered: What happens if crypto winnings are converted into fiat at some point and you suddenly transfer €30,000 (apparently pocket money for some here) to the German bank account?

I know that you can disguise some things with crypto, but the bottom line is that any profit ends up back in the bank account at some point and therefore the tax office also receives notification

It's mainly about the conversion and for that you need a bank account.

This whole crypto structure collapses at the latest with higher transactions

Of course, you can also do it naively via 3-4 different stations, transfer smaller sums at most every now and then and hope that the bank or the FA doesn't make a fuss. But that is very naive with the coming tightening and not thought through to the end.

It happens neither with 30,000€ nor with 200,000€ something. Gambling income is still tax free even if converted to fiat. BUT if you leave e.g. your Bitcoins for 6 months and your 30.000 become 35.000 you have to tax the 5000 plus. BUT only if the 30.000 remain less than 12 months on your wallet (e.g. payout by Stake on 24.12.2021, within one year 200% plus made=payout in fiat on 25.12.2022 on the account = tax free)

In addition, playing at unlisted or unregulated casinos is neither illegal nor legal, but nothing happens. At least not yet. And if it ever does, I leave the casino winnings on Crypto, which I already do anyway, and pay my shit with the debit card of the respective provider. Done.

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