unicorn wrote on 11.10.2020 at 10:28 am
Exactly that tempts yes not to pay out your balance, because you can only Deposit 500 in the same month, no matter how much win you pay out. If someone deposits directly at the beginning of the month the 1000€ and comes for example on 2000€, he will ask himself the question whether it is now worthwhile to pay out with the condition that one can play the rest of the month no more. Many will therefore rather continue to gamble with the balance and in the end lose everything. There should rather be a 1000€ loss limit as a deposit limit
pay out and then go to a casino. Germany says thank you!
unicorn wrote on 11.10.2020 at 10:28 am
Exactly that tempts yes not to pay out your balance, because you can only Deposit 500 in the same month, no matter how much win you pay out. If someone deposits directly at the beginning of the month the 1000€ and comes for example on 2000€, he will ask himself the question whether it is now worthwhile to pay out with the condition that one can play the rest of the month no more. Many will therefore rather continue to gamble with the balance and in the end lose everything. Therefore, there should rather be a 1000€ loss limit as a deposit limit
And I had understood it once exactly in such a way that this 1000 euro loss limit comes, Casinoüberfreifend. That there is now 1000 euro deposit limit is new to me.
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If anyone has the muse, here is the proposed and possibly next year implemented gambling treaty of the countries,
incl. the requirements for the casinos and the restrictions for the players!
In my eyes, a good template
Too bad that this the responsible persons here did not think it necessary to set him times!
RebellYell wrote on 11.10.2020 at 10:51
And I had once understood it exactly that this 1000 euro loss limit is coming, casino over free. That there is now 1000 euro Deposit limit is new to me.
Some say deposit limit, others loss limit. No idea what comes, but tend to the deposit limit, as this is easier to follow. If the rule is introduced across casinos, then the deposit limit will probably come, because a profit and loss statement across providers hardly makes sense.
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unicorn wrote on 11/10/2020 at 11:02 am
Some say Deposit limit, others say loss limit. No idea which is coming, but lean towards the deposit limit as it is easier to track. Should the rule be introduced across casinos, then probably the deposit limit will come, because a Provider-spanning win and loss statement probably makes little sense.
It's all in the proposed agreement, which has been submitted to the EU:
page 16/17, §6c - Self-limitation
(1) When registering, the player shall set a deposit limit up to a maximum of 1,000 euros. And this across providers! If the cumulative deposits in a calendar month to all organizers of Games of chance on the Internet are reached, a further deposit may not be made.
Page 21, §6h - Parallel gaming
(1) Parallel gaming of games of chance is prohibited
(2) Prevention by blocking file that shows whether a player is grad active
(3) "active" is removed from the file after five minutes. Means that there is a waiting period when a change occurs. After 30 minutes without entering the player, "inactive" is also created.
page 39/40, §22a - Virtual machine games
(1) Offering a slot requires the permission of the competent authority. Each slot is therefore checked
(2) A distinction is made here between the Internet and casinos. Everything Slot, Table games etc., which are in gaming halls, are inadmissible
(3) In addition to the RTP, we then need to get a probability on the maximum win
(4) This is where the auto-play mode is removed. The "declaration" of the player must be made.
(5) Stake and wins only in euros/cents
(6) A game must last 5 seconds on average. It starts with the "declaration" and ends with the display of the result
(7) The stake must not exceed one euro per game. But: The authority can adjust the maximum stake to changed circumstances.
(8) End of jackpots in Germany: A win must consist of a multiple of the stake before the game starts. Nothing may be accumulated to create wins for future games
(9) See §6h. Waiting period of five minutes
(10) Multiple windows and split screens with multiple games in parallel prohibited. Players may only be shown one game at a time
(11) Providers and suppliers may not use the words "casino" and "casino games". This explains the renaming of many casinos.
Page 9, §4c, 1-3 - Bank guarantees
Permission only if there is a bank guarantee in the EU. At least 5 million euros must be deposited. Authority may require up to 50 million collateral depending on expected sales.
Page 10/11, §4d, 4 - Consequences
The Authority may take action in the event of violations of the obligations. Public warning with new deadline, permit suspension for three months, reduction of the permit by one quarter of the term or revocation of the permit. Also applies to companies associated with the owner, which then affects all parties involved.
page 19, §6e - Further provisions for protection
(2) Random number generators shall be tested annually by an independent body at the expense of the license holder
(3) (4) The license holder must offer a ".de" domain for Germany. The license must be visible on the home page. All information must be in German.
Page 45/46, §27a - Contact person
On July 1, 2021, Saxony-Anhalt will establish an institution under public law. "Joint Gaming Authority of the Federal States" with its own official seal.
Just a brief excerpt from the proposed treaty. If everything goes like this, I think Germany will have the
by far the strongest license!
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gear wrote on 11/10/2020 at 11:25 AM
It's all in the proposed contract, which is before the EU:
page 16/17, §6c - self-limitation
(1) When registering, the player shall set a Deposit limit up to a maximum of 1,000 euros. And this across providers! If the cumulative deposits in a calendar month to all organizers of Games of chance on the Internet are reached, a further deposit may not be made.
Page 21, §6h - Parallel gaming
(1) Parallel gaming of games of chance is prohibited
(2) Prevention by blocking file that shows whether a player is grad active
(3) "active" is removed from the file after five minutes. Means that there is a waiting period when a change occurs. After 30 minutes without entering the player, "inactive" is also created.
page 39/40, §22a - Virtual machine games
(1) Offering a slot requires the permission of the competent authority. Each slot is therefore checked
(2) A distinction is made here between the Internet and casinos. Everything Slot, Table games etc., which are in gaming halls, are inadmissible
(3) In addition to the RTP, we then need to get a probability on the maximum win
(4) This is where the auto-play mode is removed. The "declaration" of the player must be made.
(5) Stake and wins only in euros/cents
(6) A game must last 5 seconds on average. It starts with the "declaration" and ends with the display of the result
(7) The stake must not exceed one euro per game. But: The authority can adjust the maximum stake to changed circumstances.
(8) End of jackpots in Germany: A win must consist of a multiple of the stake before the game starts. Nothing may be accumulated to create wins for future games
(9) See §6h. Waiting period of five minutes
(10) Multiple windows and split screens with multiple games in parallel prohibited. Players may only be shown one game at a time
(11) Providers and suppliers may not use the words "casino" and "casino games". This explains the renaming of many casinos.
Page 9, §4c, 1-3 - Bank guarantees
Permission only if there is a bank guarantee in the EU. At least 5 million euros must be deposited. Authority may require up to 50 million collateral depending on expected sales.
Page 10/11, §4d, 4 - Consequences
The Authority may take action in the event of violations of the obligations. Public warning with new deadline, permit suspension for three months, reduction of the permit by one quarter of the term or revocation of the permit. Also applies to companies associated with the owner, which then affects all parties involved.
page 19, §6e - Further provisions for protection
(2) Random number generators shall be tested annually by an independent body at the expense of the license holder
(3) (4) The license holder must offer a ".de" domain for Germany. The license must be visible on the home page. All information must be in German.
Page 45/46, §27a - Contact person
On July 1, 2021, Saxony-Anhalt will establish an institution under public law. "Joint Gaming Authority of the Federal States" with its own official seal.
Just a brief excerpt from the proposed treaty. If everything goes like this, I think Germany will have the
by far the strongest license!
Mo1985 wrote on 10/10/2020 at 19:01: Btw I find the rules TOP! I have no desire
more on the shit. Because of me they can make limit 500€.
Next it will be Skrill and Co anyway to the collar because of money laundering prevention. Everybody who withdraws money from gambling via wallets bypassing the state with plastic cards is doing money laundering - that's a fact. Actually, taxes would even be due on this, because taxes always have to be paid on illegal income. But it won't come to that, at least not in retrospect
"I don't want to play that shit anymore", such a statement can only come from someone who has gambled beyond his means just before, rip Those who have their gambling behavior under control, also automatically have their limits and do not gamble away your entire existence in one evening. Even the 500€ can break the neck of someone with a 1500€ net income so the set limits are already complete nonsense. A certain protection for the players is important but without self-discipline also the new gambling contract brings nothing, the players will look for your ways. Why is casino advertising still broadcast on TV at all and why do platforms like Twitch tolerate such content ? Hereby one should start quite clearly but so far think the idiots yes not, instead all players are dragged along. I have not lost the connection to the money but the 1000€ go with me in an evening for Oddset (no casino!) drauf and that only because I have built up over the years a good cushion.
If you stick to the T&C`s and play exclusively with reliable providers, you don't have to worry about payouts my dear I have never had such problems. I am aware that in SH other laws prevail but that was not the point at all !?! Why are commercials for casinos on TV at all, if you want to protect the players at the same time. The same applies to social platforms such as Twitch, Youtube & Co, here are many adolescents who are not aware of the risk.
There will certainly be ways, do not forget the crypto casinos
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pay out and then go to a casino. Germany says thank you!
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And I had understood it once exactly in such a way that this 1000 euro loss limit comes, Casinoüberfreifend. That there is now 1000 euro deposit limit is new to me.
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incl. the requirements for the casinos and the restrictions for the players!
In my eyes, a good template
Too bad that this the responsible persons here did not think it necessary to set him times!
https://www.automatenmarkt.de/fileadmin/Allg._Bilder/GlueStV_2021_Entwurf_EU_Notifizierung.pdf
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Some say deposit limit, others loss limit. No idea what comes, but tend to the deposit limit, as this is easier to follow. If the rule is introduced across casinos, then the deposit limit will probably come, because a profit and loss statement across providers hardly makes sense.
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It's all in the proposed agreement, which has been submitted to the EU:
page 16/17, §6c - Self-limitation
(1) When registering, the player shall set a deposit limit up to a maximum of 1,000 euros. And this across providers! If the cumulative deposits in a calendar month to all organizers of Games of chance on the Internet are reached, a further deposit may not be made.
Page 21, §6h - Parallel gaming
(1) Parallel gaming of games of chance is prohibited
(2) Prevention by blocking file that shows whether a player is grad active
(3) "active" is removed from the file after five minutes. Means that there is a waiting period when a change occurs. After 30 minutes without entering the player, "inactive" is also created.
page 39/40, §22a - Virtual machine games
(1) Offering a slot requires the permission of the competent authority. Each slot is therefore checked
(2) A distinction is made here between the Internet and casinos. Everything Slot, Table games etc., which are in gaming halls, are inadmissible
(3) In addition to the RTP, we then need to get a probability on the maximum win
(4) This is where the auto-play mode is removed. The "declaration" of the player must be made.
(5) Stake and wins only in euros/cents
(6) A game must last 5 seconds on average. It starts with the "declaration" and ends with the display of the result
(7) The stake must not exceed one euro per game. But: The authority can adjust the maximum stake to changed circumstances.
(8) End of jackpots in Germany: A win must consist of a multiple of the stake before the game starts. Nothing may be accumulated to create wins for future games
(9) See §6h. Waiting period of five minutes
(10) Multiple windows and split screens with multiple games in parallel prohibited. Players may only be shown one game at a time
(11) Providers and suppliers may not use the words "casino" and "casino games". This explains the renaming of many casinos.
Page 9, §4c, 1-3 - Bank guarantees
Permission only if there is a bank guarantee in the EU. At least 5 million euros must be deposited. Authority may require up to 50 million collateral depending on expected sales.
Page 10/11, §4d, 4 - Consequences
The Authority may take action in the event of violations of the obligations. Public warning with new deadline, permit suspension for three months, reduction of the permit by one quarter of the term or revocation of the permit. Also applies to companies associated with the owner, which then affects all parties involved.
page 19, §6e - Further provisions for protection
(2) Random number generators shall be tested annually by an independent body at the expense of the license holder
(3) (4) The license holder must offer a ".de" domain for Germany. The license must be visible on the home page. All information must be in German.
Page 45/46, §27a - Contact person
On July 1, 2021, Saxony-Anhalt will establish an institution under public law. "Joint Gaming Authority of the Federal States" with its own official seal.
Just a brief excerpt from the proposed treaty. If everything goes like this, I think Germany will have the
by far the strongest license!
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so cross-provider deposit limit of 1000 euros
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"I don't want to play that shit anymore", such a statement can only come from someone who has gambled beyond his means just before, rip Those who have their gambling behavior under control, also automatically have their limits and do not gamble away your entire existence in one evening. Even the 500€ can break the neck of someone with a 1500€ net income so the set limits are already complete nonsense. A certain protection for the players is important but without self-discipline also the new gambling contract brings nothing, the players will look for your ways. Why is casino advertising still broadcast on TV at all and why do platforms like Twitch tolerate such content ? Hereby one should start quite clearly but so far think the idiots yes not, instead all players are dragged along. I have not lost the connection to the money but the 1000€ go with me in an evening for Oddset (no casino!) drauf and that only because I have built up over the years a good cushion.
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If you stick to the T&C`s and play exclusively with reliable providers, you don't have to worry about payouts my dear I have never had such problems. I am aware that in SH other laws prevail but that was not the point at all !?! Why are commercials for casinos on TV at all, if you want to protect the players at the same time. The same applies to social platforms such as Twitch, Youtube & Co, here are many adolescents who are not aware of the risk.
There will certainly be ways, do not forget the crypto casinos
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