Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win
27th Nov. 2017, at 07:45 pm CET#84
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DaTschusch wrote on 27.11.2017 at 19:40: So hello first to all!!!!
Oarg the case and ur much Knedl 200 Killo san net little
I just googled casino cheating and then glei something like this
I can give you a tip
My brother has won 2 years ago at a machine in Lower Austria 17,000 € and the casino wojt a net zojn because gmeint ham that the machine was broken woa
Report to Dr. Thomas Fried is in Vienna but with the sum hüft a there certainly a in Germany
Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win
27th Nov. 2017, at 08:17 pm CET#85
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i did not think that there would be such an upswing now
I will wait for the answer to my question and for the decision of the MGA
I have never and never intended to harm anyone I just wanted to be listened to
I would also ask the admin to delete this topic completely if it is decided for me
And honestly it can not be decided otherwise if everything runs normally
first of all thanks to all and also to the "Dieter" of Adler because he has stood up for his employer today (eh logical) but also understood what it is about me
Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win
27th Nov. 2017, at 10:20 pm CET#86
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Well hopefully that must not be Hello a bottomless impudence because you play for years in hope and then happens to a VL something like that na Hello... I'm going to follow it is already very curious what comes out of it...lg
Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win
28th Nov. 2017, at 07:46 pm CET#90
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Gabriel wrote on 28.11.2017 at 18:35: I have now calculated through if I get so 100€ bonus and 35x must convert at a maximum of 5€ bet then I would actually 700x 5€ play so I get this?
How high is the probability that I have at 700x each 5€ money at all?
+ - 0%!!!!!
So for me quite clear fraud
Why? If Slot machines have an average AQ of 95%, then the casino earns an average of 5 cents on every 1€ spin. At 5€ on average 25 cents. On average 700 spins a 5€ cost about 175€
There are big winners in there and also the ones that lose a lot and everything in between. It is the long term average.
That is, on average, the players lose 175€ when they wager the bonus. So 75€ more than bonus was given. This means that you have to be luckier than average to make the bonus and then still have a good profit left at the end. However, it is not unachievable with a good run.
The €5 rule is therefore absolutely superfluous in my opinion, since 35x turnover is already sufficient and the casinos do not incur excessive losses, calculated on average.
Casinos do not calculate with individual big wins, but on average. Bonus funds are always gifts from the point of view of the casinos, whereby players can win a lot in the worst case. Therefore, casinos can set rules for their money. But these should be fair and not contain pitfalls. Then better increase the turnover requirements to 60x.
Whether playing with real money or bonus money. Sometimes players just win in the casino. That is the business model. In my opinion, this regulation is only there so that casinos do not have to pay out some Big Winners. In practice, this often happens because many players play with bonus and when players win, they put stakes up. Few players read through the terms and conditions.
Incidentally, it would even be advantageous for the casinos if players were allowed to play with more than €5, because the higher you play, the more you lose, of course, and the higher the chance that Big Winner will gamble away their winnings again
This is the only explanation for this rule that makes sense to me is that casinos save some Big Wins. I have asked many managers about this rule and none of them could give me a reasonable answer, so I assume that this is the only reason.
Alright, this case is a little different because a Jackpot was won. If the casino gets it right from the MGA, it will go back into the pot. But at some point another player will win this jackpot (without bonus) and the casino will have to pay out the jackpot in any case. I think it is stupid of the Adler Casino not to pay out the winnings and to Risk a scandal for it. Absolutely stupid!
NetEntertainment has nothing to do with the jackpot. This is a local jackpot that is paid out directly by the casino.
But my opinion about bonus is that casinos should give out Bonuses with smart turnover conditions. And if that is too expensive for individual casinos, then they should just leave it and not offer bonuses at all. This 5€ rule only leads to problems and in the long run this will also damage the reputation of some casinos
This rule did not exist until 1-2 years ago - or only in junk casinos, and previously the casinos with bonuses also made no losses and earned well.
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vivera I think so too but you can dream and hope dies last
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If only Kneddl wan wärs yes neda so bad
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I will wait for the answer to my question and for the decision of the MGA
I have never and never intended to harm anyone I just wanted to be listened to
I would also ask the admin to delete this topic completely if it is decided for me
And honestly it can not be decided otherwise if everything runs normally
first of all thanks to all and also to the "Dieter" of Adler because he has stood up for his employer today (eh logical) but also understood what it is about me
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Well evtl comes yes still what
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How high is the probability that I have at 700x each 5€ money at all?
+ - 0%!!!!!
So for me quite clear fraud
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Why? If Slot machines have an average AQ of 95%, then the casino earns an average of 5 cents on every 1€ spin. At 5€ on average 25 cents. On average 700 spins a 5€ cost about 175€
There are big winners in there and also the ones that lose a lot and everything in between. It is the long term average.
That is, on average, the players lose 175€ when they wager the bonus. So 75€ more than bonus was given. This means that you have to be luckier than average to make the bonus and then still have a good profit left at the end. However, it is not unachievable with a good run.
The €5 rule is therefore absolutely superfluous in my opinion, since 35x turnover is already sufficient and the casinos do not incur excessive losses, calculated on average.
Casinos do not calculate with individual big wins, but on average. Bonus funds are always gifts from the point of view of the casinos, whereby players can win a lot in the worst case. Therefore, casinos can set rules for their money. But these should be fair and not contain pitfalls. Then better increase the turnover requirements to 60x.
Whether playing with real money or bonus money. Sometimes players just win in the casino. That is the business model. In my opinion, this regulation is only there so that casinos do not have to pay out some Big Winners. In practice, this often happens because many players play with bonus and when players win, they put stakes up. Few players read through the terms and conditions.
Incidentally, it would even be advantageous for the casinos if players were allowed to play with more than €5, because the higher you play, the more you lose, of course, and the higher the chance that Big Winner will gamble away their winnings again
This is the only explanation for this rule that makes sense to me is that casinos save some Big Wins. I have asked many managers about this rule and none of them could give me a reasonable answer, so I assume that this is the only reason.
Alright, this case is a little different because a Jackpot was won. If the casino gets it right from the MGA, it will go back into the pot. But at some point another player will win this jackpot (without bonus) and the casino will have to pay out the jackpot in any case. I think it is stupid of the Adler Casino not to pay out the winnings and to Risk a scandal for it. Absolutely stupid!
NetEntertainment has nothing to do with the jackpot. This is a local jackpot that is paid out directly by the casino.
But my opinion about bonus is that casinos should give out Bonuses with smart turnover conditions. And if that is too expensive for individual casinos, then they should just leave it and not offer bonuses at all. This 5€ rule only leads to problems and in the long run this will also damage the reputation of some casinos
This rule did not exist until 1-2 years ago - or only in junk casinos, and previously the casinos with bonuses also made no losses and earned well.
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