frapi07 wrote on 15.04.2024 at 14:51:
Lump sum. You know for sure how long he was in there. You can put in 60€ per hour per machine. It's only about one day or one time, not several times. So it will be manageable how much the guy gambled away.
If the hall owner really does press charges against the "customer", then he's reporting himself and won't be doing himself any favors.
Assuming, of course, that everything is true.
So I usually have a good 100 -120 away in 60 minutes if you don't always play the boxes until the booking break and change often, more can come together, especially since they all book the 2.30 with turbo booking directly at the beginning
So I usually have a good 100 -120 away in 60 minutes if you don't always play the boxes until the booking break and change often, more can come together, especially since they all book the 2.30 with turbo booking directly at the beginning
Yes, that's just an estimate. Estimates are not uncommon in negotiations and it can happen that the estimate is sometimes more or sometimes less.
With estimated values and maximum hourly losses, you will never be compensated for any damage. And of course the arcade operator will only report it if it becomes public anyway. Why else would he report it? This report is just a threatening gesture anyway and is intended to scare people off. Nothing comes of it.
today I had an appointment with the arcade operator where I was told that I would get the money back, but I didn't. He just said that the supervisor who let me play was a Polish woman and in the next few days Russian people will come to break me, so I filed a complaint with the police and the next thing is that I called the trade office and the public order office to report the violation of the OASIS, which doesn't interest them at all cool Germany.
Extra_Leiner wrote on 19.04.2024 at 16:57: had an appointment today with the arcade operator where it was said that I get the money back but I did not he just said that the supervisor who let me play was a Polish woman and in the next few days Russian people come who want to break me on it I have made a complaint to the police and the next thing is I have called the trade office and the public order office reported the violation of the OASIS that does not interest them at all cool Germany.
Ok now it's getting a bit unbelievable
As if an owner first wants to report you for fraud and now threatens you when he earns a golden nose through his loose company policy
No one would Risk such a goldmine because of one person and let it be 1000 € through investigations by authorities
PS: Violations of OASIS must be investigated! The same applies if you have been threatened!
Extra_Leiner wrote on 19.04.2024 at 16:57: had an appointment today with the arcade operator where it was said that I would get the money back but I didn't. He just said that the supervisor who let me play was a Polish woman and in the next few days Russian people will come to break me. I then reported it to the police and the next thing is I called the trade office and the public order office to report the violation of the OASIS that doesn't interest them at all cool Germany.
gamble1 wrote on 19.04.2024 at 17:18:
Ok now it's getting a bit unbelievable
As if an owner first wants to report you for fraud and now threatens you when he earns a golden nose through his loose company policy
No one would Risk such a goldmine because of one person and let it be 1000 € through investigations by authorities
PS: Violations of OASIS must be investigated! The same applies if you have been threatened!
Troll or not, but you do know that in Germany the protection of the perpetrator comes before the protection of the victim?
Do you think, for example, that an authority would dare to carry out any serious investigations against a clan-run gambling establishment?
Not even the robbery of the century in the Green Vault was properly investigated and punished, despite massive pressure from the public.
The justice system here needs the capacity to hunt down real criminals like online casino players.
Troll or not, but you do know that in Germany the protection of perpetrators comes before the protection of victims?
Do you think, for example, that an authority would dare to conduct any serious investigations against a clan-run casino?
Not even the robbery of the century in the Green Vault was properly investigated and punished, despite massive pressure from the public.
The justice system here needs the capacity to hunt down real criminals like online casino players.
It's logical that small people like OC players are punished more severely - they don't suddenly turn up at the prosecutor's front door at night with 20 men
What I'm wondering right now: did you only like the name of the Twich Streamer "Extraleinerlol" so much or is that you yourself?
"Greetings euch👋🏻. I'm Extraleinerlol and I'm 29 years old. I like playing the panpipe and laughing with others. It's hard to say exactly what I stream, as there's always something new and I'm always trying to expand and improve the stream. Sometimes I sing for fun"
Langhans wrote on 19.04.2024 at 18:31: What I'm just wondering: did you only like the name of the Twich Streamer "Extraleinerlol" so much or is that you yourself?
"Greetings euch👋🏻. I'm Extraleinerlol and I'm 29 years old. I like playing the panpipe and laughing with others. It's hard to say exactly what I stream, as there's always something new and I'm always trying to expand and improve the stream. Sometimes I sing for fun"
I'll answer myself: since you're both 29 years old, according to your profile and description, it will be you personally. I was also a casual viewer of yours a few years ago and that was also about slots. Your performance was a bit special, but at least not as slick as many others. At least I felt quite entertained by you
gamble1 wrote on 19.04.2024 at 17:18:
Ok now it's getting a bit unbelievable
As if an owner first wants to report you for fraud and now threatens you when he earns a golden nose through his loose company policy
No one would Risk such a goldmine because of one person and let it be 1000 € through investigations by authorities
PS: Violations of OASIS must be investigated! The same applies if you have been threatened!
Well it depends on where you play but could also be a troll, but nowadays I wouldn't be surprised lol. No good neighborhood + no good operator and something like that could happen. Easy.
A friend of mine has several halls where they don't pay attention to anything - closing time, 1 o'clock closing time, Oasis Check. It's all about the money, but there's no such thing as breaking bones. He's also Polish but 60+. Basically it's your fault you lost. If you had won what then? Then you shouldn't be given the money. If you report something to the authorities the store is closed immediately!
needle34 wrote on 19.04.2024 at 22:22: So a friend of mine has several halls there is paid attention to nothing neither to curfew, to closing time 1 o'clock, to Oasis Check. It's all about the money, but there's no such thing as breaking bones. He's also Polish but 60+. Basically it's your fault you lost. If you had won what then? Then you shouldn't be given the money. If you report something to the authorities, the store is closed immediately!
How are they supposed to check whether the OP gambled in the hall at all? just mess up the video recordings and that's that.
According to this, it is not possible to prove something like this by means of video recordings if the incident happened a long time ago. Of course, it depends on whether the TE went to the guy immediately and the guy saved the recordings. I have no way of knowing that, but let's assume both cases.
Nowadays it's easy to find out where you were using GPS (cell phone tracking). Will such an effort be made for a few hundred euros in dispute? I honestly don't think so, but theoretically the TE could use this method to prove that he was at the arcade on the day in question.
So regardless of whether you make the recordings disappear or not, if the TE had a cell phone with a SIM card with him, for example, he can easily prove it.
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Yes, that's just an estimate. Estimates are not uncommon in negotiations and it can happen that the estimate is sometimes more or sometimes less.
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Ok now it's getting a bit unbelievable
As if an owner first wants to report you for fraud and now threatens you when he earns a golden nose through his loose company policy
No one would Risk such a goldmine because of one person and let it be 1000 € through investigations by authorities
PS: Violations of OASIS must be investigated! The same applies if you have been threatened!
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Troll or not, but you do know that in Germany the protection of the perpetrator comes before the protection of the victim?
Do you think, for example, that an authority would dare to carry out any serious investigations against a clan-run gambling establishment?
Not even the robbery of the century in the Green Vault was properly investigated and punished, despite massive pressure from the public.
The justice system here needs the capacity to hunt down real criminals like online casino players.
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It's logical that small people like OC players are punished more severely - they don't suddenly turn up at the prosecutor's front door at night with 20 men
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I'll answer myself: since you're both 29 years old, according to your profile and description, it will be you personally. I was also a casual viewer of yours a few years ago and that was also about slots. Your performance was a bit special, but at least not as slick as many others. At least I felt quite entertained by you
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Well it depends on where you play but could also be a troll, but nowadays I wouldn't be surprised lol. No good neighborhood + no good operator and something like that could happen. Easy.
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How are they supposed to check whether the OP gambled in the hall at all? just mess up the video recordings and that's that.
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Every company is obliged to keep the recordings for a certain period of time.
This has recently been reduced to 72 hours. There is also a judgment on this:
Storage period of video recordings - court confirms the principle of the 72-hour period - aigner business solutions (aigner-business-solutions.com)
According to this, it is not possible to prove something like this by means of video recordings if the incident happened a long time ago. Of course, it depends on whether the TE went to the guy immediately and the guy saved the recordings. I have no way of knowing that, but let's assume both cases.
Nowadays it's easy to find out where you were using GPS (cell phone tracking). Will such an effort be made for a few hundred euros in dispute? I honestly don't think so, but theoretically the TE could use this method to prove that he was at the arcade on the day in question.
So regardless of whether you make the recordings disappear or not, if the TE had a cell phone with a SIM card with him, for example, he can easily prove it.
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