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Landbased Casinos in general: My gambling addiction is excessive (Page 7)

Topic created on 17th Dec. 2023 | Page: 7 of 8 | Answers: 117 | Views: 8,270
needle34
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My gambling addiction is excessive

14th Feb. 2024, at 07:15 pm CET#91
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I have to make a cut now, I have left 2400 euros in three days in the arcade, I have thrown 700 coins into a box once and had the final result 0 euros high at Lord of ocean, I always have 200-250 euros booked, so the staff, they like to do that, I really gamble a lot. I also have no emotions, basically I know how mentally ill that is. Out of 15 visits, I lose 14 times. I don't understand why private halls are so bad. It's not a coincidence. I also go to casinos where things are much better. Basically, many here are right to stop immediately and nothing else. I'm trying to work on it. Thanks for any encouragement and criticism 🙏

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Donnie
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My gambling addiction is excessive

14th Feb. 2024, at 08:22 pm CET#92
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I want to write something here that you might not be able to relate to. A good 6 years ago I had a job where there was often nothing to do. I often placed over/under bets on basketball quarters or volleyball sets and followed the graphics to combat boredom. At William Hill, I always deposited extra money for a tennis betting market that I liked to play. You could bet on the number of points e.g. set X, points in game 1 and 2, over 11, exactly 11, under 11 points, if there was a deuce in a game you had already won the bet. I only did it because I was bored and the whole gambling thing has only intensified for me since then. Before that, I'd only ever bet on the Bundesliga at the weekend. Later, I had a problem with a bookmaker, looked it up on a search engine and then came across gambling forums, and it was only because of forums that I knew about slots, for example, because of the promotions that were posted

At that time there was an employee, I saw that he often played slots on his cell phone. I then approached him carefully, also because of gambling addiction. He then told everything, that he was often in gambling halls, was addicted and in Debt but had completely stopped gambling, but he always had to play the slots demo game money apps at some moments because of his addiction, he just needed it. He couldn't do without it, but managed to stop depositing money or going to gambling halls because of it

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Falke
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My gambling addiction is excessive

14th Feb. 2024, at 08:49 pm CET#93
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needle34 wrote on 14.02.2024 at 19:15: I have to make a cut now I have left 2400 euros in three days in the arcade I have thrown 700 tacken into a box once had games and the final result 0 euros high at Lord of ocean.I always let 200-250 call there, so the staff, they like to do that I really gamble a lot. I also have no emotions, basically I know how mentally ill that is. Out of 15 visits, I lose 14 times. I don't understand why private halls are so bad. It's not a coincidence. I also go to casinos where things are much better. Basically, many here are right to stop immediately and nothing else. I'm trying to work on it. Thanks for any encouragement and criticism 🙏

Sorry, but who is supposed to take this seriously? The thread is already 2 months old and you've done next to nothing since then. You're using the thread as an endless whining corner and you're not changing anything.


Have you already been to therapy? Have you gone to a self-help group or something similar? I'm not saying that this will necessarily help, but your efforts to solve your problem are really not recognizable.

If you have money right now, then you're gambling it away. If you don't have any money at the moment, then you moan on here and swear that something will change now.... until you have money again. That's the never-ending story, only without a happy ending.

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needle34
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My gambling addiction is excessive

14th Feb. 2024, at 09:17 pm CET#94
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Falke wrote on 14.02.2024 at 20:49:

Sorry, but who is supposed to take this seriously anymore? The thread is already 2 months old and you've done next to nothing since then. You're using the thread as an endless whining corner and you're not changing anything.


Have you already been to therapy? Have you gone to a self-help group or something similar? I'm not saying that this will necessarily help, but your efforts to solve your problem are really not recognizable.

If you have money right now, then you're gambling it away. If you don't have any money at the moment, then you moan on here and swear that something will change now.... until you have money again. That's the never-ending story, only without a happy ending.

But I wasn't playing from mid-December to mid-January. But you're generally right, yes.

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Donnie
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My gambling addiction is excessive

14th Feb. 2024, at 09:39 pm CET#95
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I'm not a fan of therapy either. Something really bad happened in my environment recently, something that really bothered me in my head. So much so that I need therapy now. Should I lie down on the couch and let someone talk me out of it? Just like with gambling addiction. Yes, someone comes or you go to a clinic where you are given tips on how to stop. Ultimately, everyone has to do something about it themselves and not only take measures but also follow them through. You will always be confronted with the possibilities of being able to gamble, but you have to stop or reduce it yourself. The best remedy for this is to do other things during the time you would be playing. It can also do you no harm to drop to the floor. I know a person who was addicted to cocaine and overdosed at a party. He was saved, but it was such a deep case that the person never touched cocaine or anything like it again

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R3hab
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My gambling addiction is excessive

14th Feb. 2024, at 10:01 pm CET#96
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Donnie wrote on 14.02.2024 at 21:39: I'm not a fan of therapy either. Something really bad happened in my environment recently, something that really bothered me in my head. So much so that I need therapy now. Should I lie down on the couch and let someone talk me out of it? Just like with gambling addiction. Yes, someone comes or you go to a clinic where you are given tips on how to stop. Ultimately, everyone has to do something about it themselves and not only take measures but also follow them through. You will always be confronted with the possibilities of being able to gamble, but you have to stop or reduce it yourself. The best remedy for this is to do other things during the time you would be playing. It can also do you no harm to drop to the floor. I know a person who was addicted to cocaine and overdosed at a party. He was saved, but it was such a deep case that the person never touched cocaine or anything like it again

It's funny that depression wasn't recognized at first and they said there's no such thing.


If your basic attitude towards therapies that are negative for your mental health or you think you can solve these problems yourself, you can do it
You can do that.

over 70% relapse after therapy, what do you think it's like to try it alone? If you can get to grips with your problems in this way, I think that's really great - I have the greatest respect for you.

But if you're not doing so well, then you should reconsider your opinion and read some reviews about clinics, because you shouldn't forget the 30% that are still clean
There are some positive things

But I wish you all the best with what has happened to you.

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Falke
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My gambling addiction is excessive

14th Feb. 2024, at 10:51 pm CET#97
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Donnie wrote on 14.02.2024 at 21:39: I'm not a fan of therapy either. Something really bad happened in my environment recently, something that really bothered me in my head. So much so that I need therapy now. Should I lie down on the couch and let someone talk me out of it? Just like with gambling addiction. Yes, someone comes or you go to a clinic where you are given tips on how to stop. Ultimately, everyone has to do something about it themselves and not only take measures but also follow them through. You will always be confronted with the possibilities of being able to gamble, but you have to stop or reduce it yourself. The best remedy for this is to do other things during the time you would be playing. It can also do you no harm to drop to the floor. I know a person who was addicted to cocaine and overdosed at a party. He was saved, but it was such a deep case that the person never touched cocaine or anything like it again

Yes, and that's where your problem lies. You think you can do it all by yourself and make it sound like it's easy. So why don't you do it?


Therapy can help you enormously. And judging something you haven't tried yourself is also pretty counterproductive. And your last example is also really wrong. Do you want to end up on the street before you stop? And has it ever occurred to you that the cocaine addict might not have reached this zero point with good therapy?

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Donnie
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My gambling addiction is excessive

15th Feb. 2024, at 12:26 am CET#98
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It's all well and good to have a clinic for an addict. Another healing place can't hurt at first. You are then shown ways and means to change your life, which is also all well and good. Nevertheless, the addict will return to his life. He will have to sit on the couch and fight the battle of deciding whether to call a Dealer, go to the arcade or Deposit money in an online casino. Online Casinos are always available and always accessible despite the lockdown

If you end up on the street because you've gambled everything away, it's a good way to heal someone. The person will then have to take a step back next time and think twice about gambling everything away. You learn from your mistakes

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Falke
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My gambling addiction is excessive

15th Feb. 2024, at 12:42 am CET#99
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Donnie wrote on 15.02.2024 at 00:26: It's all well and good to have a clinic for an addict. Another healing place can't hurt at first. You are then shown ways and means of how to organize your life differently, also nice and good. Nevertheless, the addict will return to his life. He will have to sit on the couch and fight the battle of deciding whether to call a Dealer, go to the arcade or Deposit money in an online casino. Online Casinos are always available and always accessible despite the lockdown

If you end up on the street because you've gambled everything away, it's a good way to heal someone. The person will then have to take a step back next time and think twice about gambling everything away. You learn from your mistakes

If your Gambling addiction leads to you ending up on the street, then you won't learn anything from your mistakes. And it's not about a clinic, you can simply start psychotherapy and go once a week. And it's nice if there are still some people who have fallen so far and can pull themselves up again with their last ounce of strength. But how many people do you think will remain homeless? And why would you even want to get to that point?


And yes, that's exactly what therapy is about. Learning how to deal with it on your own and how to cope with these critical moments. Nobody says it's easy, but if you haven't managed it alone before, you won't manage it alone now.

Do you know what I always notice about addicts? That they think they are a particularly strong person and convince themselves that they will just stop in the future because their willpower is so strong. This is exactly the type of person who rejects external help. It's just as stupid as having a broken foot and not going to the doctor. Gambling addiction is a brain disease and a psychological illness. On the one hand, it is an attempt to compensate and escape from reality and on the other hand, the brain wants the next dopmain shot.

And the more you play, the shittier reality becomes and the more you try to escape and the more urgently your brain needs the next shot.

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Donnie
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My gambling addiction is excessive

15th Feb. 2024, at 01:32 am CET#100
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Are there actually also winners who do therapy or only those who bet high and lose a lot?

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Falke
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My gambling addiction is excessive

15th Feb. 2024, at 01:51 am CET#101
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Donnie wrote on 15.02.2024 at 01:32: Are there actually also winners who do therapy or only those who bet high and lose a lot?

What?

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Donnie
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My gambling addiction is excessive

15th Feb. 2024, at 02:09 am CET#102
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Falke wrote on 15.02.2024 at 01:51:

What?

I mean players who are in the profit zone or who are in the black. Are such players also undergoing therapy or are they addicted? The circle of losers is quickly told to stop or go to therapy...

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Falke
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My gambling addiction is excessive

15th Feb. 2024, at 02:28 am CET#103
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Donnie wrote on 02/15/2024 02:09 PM:

I mean players who are in the black or in the black. Are such players also undergoing therapy or are they addicted? The circle of losers is quickly told to stop or go to therapy...

What do you mean by that? Which circle of winners is that supposed to be? I've never met this circle of slot millionaires.


But basically, behavior needs therapy if it has a harmful effect on your life. In other words, it restricts you in your personal life and you suffer from this behavior. Most people only start therapy when the level of suffering is already very high. Where exactly the level of suffering begins is also different for everyone. While an average earner may gamble away all their surplus money and not feel any particular distress because their rent and food are paid for and that is completely sufficient for them, a millionaire can also feel distress when gambling away money, even though it doesn't make them poor, but they don't like the compulsion to do so or similar.

The big problem with most addictions, or let's say most harmful habits, is the insidious process. For example, if you become 20 kilos overweight in 3 years, don't exercise and have a poor diet. This doesn't happen overnight and is therefore a gradual process. So you don't even notice the enormous decrease in your quality of life.

But if you went to sleep today as an athletic, normal-weight person and woke up tomorrow as an unathletic, overweight person, you would immediately notice the massive difference and the enormous loss in quality of life.

And it is precisely this gradual process that is the reason why people don't tackle the problem and don't consider it to be so serious.

Imagine a fairy comes to you and gives you the decision of whether you continue with your life as before or whether she transfers all the money you have gambled away to your account and frees you from the addiction. In this scenario, you lead a happy, financially carefree life and when you walk past a gambling hall, the most you can do is shake your head because you've only seen it on TV.

What would you choose?

If you were to choose the latter, why wouldn't you choose it in the here and now without a fairy? Because by choosing the second option, you are admitting to yourself how shit the first option is and yet you remain in this state. And one of the main reasons for this is the gradual process in which you no longer realize what you are taking away from yourself and how bad you are actually feeling. The habituation effect leads to a fatal self-deception and therefore you have to look at the whole problem from a different perspective. Therapy can help you with this.

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Stromberg
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My gambling addiction is excessive

15th Feb. 2024, at 08:17 am CET#104
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A good Poker player could be such a case, addicted to gambling but permanently in the black.
However, if he neglects all the other components in his life as a result, therapy might still make sense.

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Mallpall
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My gambling addiction is excessive

15th Feb. 2024, at 10:57 am CET#105
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All the help, comparisons and tips are all well and good, but not at all helpful for him. There is no question that he has an addiction here, and that he is fighting against himself and his own head.

He always claims to have a lot of money - the accessibility of this has already been discussed more than once, which in my opinion is the biggest problem. Since he is already emotionally flattened, certain processes are so entrenched in his head that, to be honest, only inpatient therapy is beneficial, the subsequent abstinence is something else again - there is an enormous rat's tail attached to it that people can't even imagine, it can all drag on for several years.

Even if it sounds hard, I don't think he'll make it out on his own.

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