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Gambling addiction in general: What do you do after a big win?

Topic created on 26th Jul. 2017 | Page: 1 of 5 | Answers: 48 | Views: 15,395
Stealth
Rookie
Hi all,
i have been a silent reader here for the last few years. Now I would like to post something and also write down my story.
I try to keep it short. The main question comes but also right at the beginning

How do you come down again after big gains?
I ask because I have the last few weeks an extreme up and down behind me and have now won again nicely. But now I'm really hot again to continue playing at high stakes.

My gambling career...
2003-2008
Started with sports betting. Mini-stakes and minimal losses.
Loss: Less than -€100.00

2009-2013
Bad health time. Many many doctor visits, hospitalizations and sick for months. Got a depression because of that. In these years I was then also for the first time in a gambling house. I was in these years not often and celebrated with cent stakes great profits. I must have been extremely lucky. At some point, however, I lost and the people there upset me. Difficult to explain, but it often took my mind off my depression and anxiety...
According to my annual statistics at the time, I was actually at +-0 at the end.
Loss: +-0

2014
Physically ok, depression worse. I stopped going to the casino. Instead, I started with online casinos. Played with high stakes for me and lost.
Sometimes I could pay out a profit and sometimes I lost badly. The stakes became higher. The yearly statistics was then with a loss of -3500. I went dadruch badly and I made myself for years reproaches. I never wanted to play again.
Loss: -3,500

2015
Physically better, depression still bad. Been out of games for a long time. Then played some again and finally won. Stakes not too high and actually a year's profit. Again resolved not to play anymore. Still feeling bad about 2014.
Profit: + 600

2016
Crash
Physically well again and depression better due to medication and psychologist. Out of sheer boredom started gambling again with small stakes. Out of nowhere I was in a lucky streak. Suddenly I was in the plus with 4500€ and had everything back in. Incredibly good. Really escalated after that. Hundreds of deposits and withdrawals. The stakes got sick with 10-20€ per spin. Months later my annual stats were at -10,000€. Unbelievable, again made no longer play.
Loss: -10.000

2017
The roller coaster year
Months of playing break then started to play again out of boredom. Directly had bad luck and I was already at -3,500€ this year. With my last money again fetched several larger profits. I was again with +1.900€. I also signed up at more and more casinos. In a new casino I won then with only 50€ Deposit exactly 5250€, Suddenly I was with 7.200€ in the plus. Even before the Verification in the new casino was through, I gambled away the 7,200€ with 50€ spins in a single day. I wrote to the casino that I finally needed the withdrawal to balance my account. The payout took about 1 week... I got the payout and my account was blocked BY THE casino for gambling addiction. I had never managed anything like that before ^^. I was then in this year again at 0. I was because of it but even physically bad and had to throw up. Abartige feeling. Despite this shit I started to play again in this July. I signed up at new casinos again and it started the winning streak. No matter what game, I won. Jungle Spirit +1900€ with 1€ bet or 10€ free spins Book of Ra and +4000 Euro win and other big wins. Partly with mini deposits of 50€. In different casinos the verifications carried out and paid out. As of today, I stand at a yearly profit of 13,000€.
Profit: + 13.000

Means I have recovered all my gaming losses of my life. This does not feel real. However, playing on high stakes has now dulled me. No more thrill at 5€ per spin. The worst thing is that I'm mega hot to play again. My head is full of slots. Really nasty right now...

I have already signed up in hundreds of casinos and blocked again. But there are always new Casions. Do you have any tips on how I get back on the floor. Play actually always just for fun but this has been too sick. With antigambling software I've already tried but I'm IT-ler and just bypass that^^.

What do you do after big wins, not to gamble away everything again.

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Andrew789
Experienced
Oha that sounds hard. But your record is really good How did you manage to get banned for gambling? Did they just figure it out on their own because you played so much or what? You almost have to be afraid that they won't pay out your big winnings if you gamble half of them back down again.

So you should buy something big after a big win (TV, console, smartphone) and put a part of it into an extra savings account or something similar. I also always buy something that I know I can use next month when things go bad (gas voucher, supermarket voucher).

Best to try to stop after a big win, but unfortunately I never manage to do that... my balance is not that great... After 7 years estimated 50.000 minus or so... But strangely enough I still like to play on small stakes and then put up when I have won something. So I'm also happy about free spins on 20 cents.

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Daniel
Elite
Yes, what you describe is called an unbelievable lucky streak. I've had the same thing twice so far and both times I more or less screwed up. The second time less, the first time record winnings ended in disaster. I won 25.000€ and with one stroke I had my online losses back + 5.000€. And then I got used to the high stakes because it was just so fun! At the end of the same year I had debts of 15.000€.

Unfortunately, the self-blocking thing doesn't work (at least for me). There are always new Online Casinos where you can sign up. Unfortunately I don't have a solution for that either. You just have to be tough

If your work allows it, do a month or two in Thailand, Malaysia. There you can not gamble, because gambling is prohibited and the online casinos kick you out and you can only log back in when you are in Germany. That is actually the only solution that I would think of ...

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Anonym
By the way, I think it's really great that you've been keeping a record of your profits/losses since the beginning.
So you can always make clear to yourself how your gaming behavior is. (I wanted to do this once, but somehow I can't manage it)
The high winnings and the associated feeling I can well understand, because I feel the same as you. (Depression / boredom, .. etc)
Congratulations by the way, that you are not in the minus after all these years, is probably rather rare^^
With me, however, it is now (fortunately) so that I am happy about profits even at lower amounts.
Whenever I'm doing really well, I cancel the payouts again and again
Larger profits make strangely always everything worse...

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Stealth
Rookie
@Andrew789
Well the balance sheet looked quite bad before the winning streak.

Regarding the block: I have requested 2 large payouts. The 2 withdrawals could not be cancelled either. I have then but more and more new deposited until the 7200€ were gambled. The payout took a long time and I wrote to the OC that I finally need my payout to balance my account. The money I got then also and was blocked but. Was just also a bit annoyed by the payout duration (8 days). The casino is also listed here.
Here is the censored mail history:

Me:
Dear Sir or Madam, when can I expect my 2 outstanding withdrawals? I gambled too much yesterday and need the money to balance my account again.

Casino:
Dear Mr.... thank you very much for your cooperation and patience.
The security check has just been successfully completed and the withdrawal has been approved for final processing. ... takes Responsible gaming very seriously and we try to intervene in a timely manner at the slightest signs of loss of control. It is our goal to provide our users with a platform that is perceived as entertainment and enjoyable pastime. In this regard, we are concerned that you mention financial problems due to your gaming activity in your message to us. We ask you to provide us with more detailed information in this regard so that we can work together to find a solution that suits you. Until such a solution could be found, we consider it necessary to block your account. We ask for your understanding for this measure, which is in your own interest, and also allow us to send you the following link regarding > "Responsible Gaming".

Me:
Dear Sir or Madam, Yes, I have gambled heavily and was also not stopped from depositing over 7,000 Euros in one day. I will reconsider my gambling behavior. But financial problems I have only because I am waiting for 8 days for my 2 payouts with you. Please process my payouts now.

Casino:
Dear Mr. ...,
thank you for your cooperation.
According to our records, your withdrawals were transferred to your PayPal account on June 28, 2017.
We have forwarded the information to the relevant department. As soon as we receive feedback regarding this matter, we will inform you.

Me:
Dear Sirs,
yes, I have received the payment. Everything is cleared and in order.
Please unlock my account again and just set a monthly Deposit limit of 500€ for it.

Casino:
Dear Mr. ...,
thank you for your cooperation and patience.
We have received feedback from the relevant department. Your account "..." has been permanently and irrevocably suspended.
You are not allowed to use our platform in the future.
We ask for your understanding for this measure, which is in your own interest, and also allow us to send you the following link regarding "Responsible Gaming".


@Daniel
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I am location bound and can't leave (girlfriend, apartment, job, family, friends). But due to the high stakes, I have no desire to play games. So now I try to cancel Paypal, credit card and online banking. My problem is that I play uncontrollably due to the high winnings. Deposit 50€ and play on 50Cent for fun. An hour later I already have 1,000 euros in it and play 10 euros per spin... Well now once worked, but often goes wrong. I'm aware that I'm crap, but it makes Bock... Have now at least today and yesterday not played and limits set ^^

@tby333
Yes I always keep a statistic. But it's hard to enter big losses. But even in my annual stats this year you can see the extreme gambling.
Deposit: 19.802,70
Payout: 32.809,00
Last year it was about the other way around... With my earnings of 1.500€ net monthly these are already nasty sums.

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Anonym
Hey,

so I can only tell you that with EVERY gambler it is so, that he plays after larger profits always higher stakes and thus loses the value of money.this is unfortunately a normal cycle when gambling and that's the big problem with this addiction.it's just like alcohol or cigarettes ... if you drink more and more or smoke verreckste also sooner to it... when gambling biste afterwards just poor to it x)


PS: If you earn only 1500 euros net you have probably ifs hochkommt 100-200 euros a month to gamble that do not hurt you.everything else should be reconsidered, if you e.g. no car and the money verzocken... or you restrict differently to gamble..Biste just unfortunately already completely addicted

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Anonym
Stealth wrote on 07/27/2017 at 18:40: @Andrew789
Well the record looked quite bad before the streak though.

Regarding the block: I requested 2 big payouts. The 2 withdrawals could not be cancelled either. I have then but more and more new deposited until the 7200€ were gambled. The payout then took a long time and I wrote to the OC that I finally need my payout to balance my account. The money I got then also and was blocked but. Was just also a bit annoyed by the payout duration (8 days). The casino is also listed here.
Here is the censored mail history:

Me:
Dear Sir or Madam, when can I expect my 2 pending withdrawals? I gambled too much yesterday and need the money to rebalance my account.

Casino:
Dear Mr.... thank you very much for your cooperation and patience.
The security check has just been successfully completed and the withdrawal has been approved for final processing. ... takes Responsible gaming very seriously and we try to intervene in a timely manner at the slightest signs of loss of control. It is our goal to provide our users with a platform that is perceived as entertainment and enjoyable pastime. In this regard, we are concerned that you mention financial problems due to your gaming activity in your message to us. We ask you to provide us with more detailed information in this regard so that we can work together to find a solution that suits you. Until such a solution could be found, we consider it necessary to block your account. We ask for your understanding for this measure, which is in your own interest, and also allow us to send you the following link regarding > "Responsible Gaming".

Me:
Dear Sir or Madam, Yes, I have gambled heavily and was not stopped from depositing over 7,000 Euros in one day. I will reconsider my gambling behavior. But financial problems I have only because I am waiting for 8 days for my 2 payouts with you. Please process my payouts now.

Casino:
Dear Mr. ...,
thank you for your cooperation.
According to our records, your withdrawals were transferred to your PayPal account on June 28, 2017.
We have forwarded the information to the relevant department. As soon as we receive feedback regarding this matter, we will inform you.

Me:
Dear Sirs,
yes, I have received the payment. Everything is cleared and in order.
Please unlock my account again and just set a monthly Deposit limit of 500€ for it.

Casino:
Dear Mr. ...,
thank you for your cooperation and patience.
We have received feedback from the relevant department. Your account "..." has been permanently and irrevocably suspended.
You are not allowed to use our platform in the future.
We ask for your understanding for this measure, which is in your own interest, and also allow us to send you the following link regarding "Responsible Gaming".

The OC has reacted in exactly the right way,
Why are you justifying yourself as well? It's none of their business. Without the above underlined sentence nothing would have happened (ban) except that your Ausz. is processed^^
As a "good" OC, they even had to block you as a precaution.

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Stealth
Rookie
@locke2kk
Yes, car, apartment, etc. I have of course. But the joke is, that I am stingy. Except when it comes to gambling. Have also never made debts and also some savings contracts, which I could dissolve only with loss and with a period of 3 months. Only maxed out the checking account for a short time this time. Therefore, it has me financially NO overturned.

@Blackwood13
True, I don't blame the casino either. Had me even wished that it would have blocked me earlier or directly at the loss of control ^^. But of course, no casino does that.
And yes the messages I wrote shortly after the big loss. Since I was still a little off ^^

I think I try now to prevent the Deposit options and times with my psychologist from back then to make an appointment. No desire to ruin me . Currently I have yes everything reingeholt and the chance with +-0 to end my Zockerkarriere.



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Anonym
Hey sorry if I have to say that now but you sound more like an addict and for most it would not be good +- to go out there because one with minus rather understands that gambling is bad.at +- is the chance that one gambles again pretty big you have lost nothing over years (For me there would be good 100000 loss rather more...)

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Stealth
Rookie
@locke2kk
You do not need to apologize for this statement. That's right and I know myself that I have developed a problematic behavior. I had lost 10,000 last year and was already at an additional -3500 this year, so I already know how it feels to lose. Only by the lucky streak I have made up all the losses of the last years. Since it would be perfect now to get the jump... Therefore, I had asked here for advice on how to deal with large gains and not immediately gambled everything away again.

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