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The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed
23rd Mar. 2018, at 02:31 pm CET#1
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For a long time I thought about whether to post this here or not...meanwhile I'm so p**sed and just disappointed that I'm trying to write a short version of the story with Hammerdammer here.
Ronny, Hammerdammer and I have since December a Whatsappgruppe, with Hammerdammer I have already met privately.
Since Hammerdammer had money problems due to serious gambling problems, I helped him out financially several times (probably out of humanity, uhhh...stupidity). It was a total of 400 euros that have accumulated. These should be transferred only completely after salary entrance in January. Since he gambled away the complete salary, I was put off with stalling and for the time being with lies and/or no message from him. After that, installments were agreed upon, since he had now squandered his salary twice in a row. So far so good...
Then it went scarce with electricity back payment and I have him again 150 borrowed (I must confess, I lose here even slowly the overview with so much back and forth).
It then actually came an installment of 150 euros, of which I have then waived another 50 because it was again scarce.
Now last Friday should come 100 euros, but that did not happen. On Tuesday I was told that the money was late according to the bank. Until today nothing is there...Instead of an explanation again Rumdrucksen and no clear answer. In the last Paysafe raffle I donated my part to the two, then I was the great and nice person. I slowly feel totally fooled and also stupid in my naivety.
The moral of the story - never lend money to a gambling addict, even if it seems right at the moment and you want to help.
I will keep the community up to date, whether the now total of 450 euros will be paid sometime or not.
I can handle anything, but not if I am sold for stupid, put off, lie and treat me like a 12 year old.
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The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed
23rd Mar. 2018, at 02:38 pm CET#2
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I never say lend money to gamblers. At least no cash. If someone needs help, then in the form of gas vouchers, etc. or go shopping yourself with the person concerned - you won't see your money again
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 02:42 pm CET#3
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I would not have thought such a thing now Hammerdammer
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 02:43 pm CET#4
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BabylonAD wrote on 23/03/2018 at 14:38: I say but never lend money to gamblers. At least not cash. If someone needs help then in the form of gas vouchers etc or go shopping yourself with the affected your money you do not see more
Well, that's why "stupidity", even if I meant well. Lesson money for life...but there are always miracles. Let's see...
Vll it is also a warning to all others here ðŸ'ðŸ"
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 03:15 pm CET#5
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So after long consideration I write now nevertheless also still what in addition.
First, I'm grad fallen from all clouds, because I thought that now finally everything runs and it still takes a good end the whole...unfortunately, I was wrong.
I have great respect for the fact that Andreas was so generous around Christmas and Hammerdammer there has taken under the arms and not only once. Respect for that and also for the fact that he remained very calm when the money did not come (I would not have been able to do so).
I have already been in a similar situation, to sit between the chairs as now somehow again. My two best friends at the time, got into a similar situation as this one. One of them became a gambling addict and the other one borrowed him 6000 Euro, after everything was gambled away and he was about to be kicked out of his apartment. After the gambling addict has told me that he does not intend to pay back this money (the borrowed the money was in the army and has earned quite well, so he thought he will already verkfraften the money not to get back) I had made the other aware of it and broke off contact. The friendship of the two broke down and after several years at least a part of the money was paid back. Why am I writing this now?
I appreciate Hammerdammer very much, everyone here should have noticed that. What I can't stand is to take advantage of someone else's good nature. And that Andreas after the whole theater even borrowed money again (I knew nothing about it until now) and now it starts again.
I can only hope that Hammdammer is so fair and still pays back the money and Andreas now not only sees the bad in everyone who might ask him for help.
The knowledge I have learned from both stories is that I would NEVER lend money to a gambling addict and will......
The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed
23rd Mar. 2018, at 03:26 pm CET#6
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Avantgarde83 wrote on 03/23/2018 at 2:31 pm: For a long time I was thinking whether to post this here or not...meanwhile I am so p**sed and just disappointed that I try to write a short version of the story with Hammerdammer here.
Ronny, Hammerdammer and I have since December a Whatsappgruppe, with Hammerdammer I have already met privately.
Since Hammerdammer had money problems due to serious gambling problems, I helped him out financially several times (probably out of humanity, uhhh...stupidity). It was a total of 400 euros that have accumulated. These should be transferred only completely after salary entrance in January. Since he gambled away the complete salary, I was put off with stalling and for the time being with lies and/or no message from him. After that, installments were agreed upon, since he had now squandered his salary twice in a row. So far so good...
Then it went scarce with electricity back payment and I have him again 150 borrowed (I must confess, I lose here even slowly the overview with so much back and forth).
It then actually came an installment of 150 euros, of which I have then waived another 50 because it was again scarce.
Now last Friday should come 100 euros, but that did not happen. On Tuesday I was told that the money was late according to the bank. Until today nothing is there...Instead of an explanation again Rumdrucksen and no clear answer. In the last Paysafe raffle I donated my part to the two, then I was the great and nice person. I slowly feel totally fooled and also stupid in my naivety.
The moral of the story - never lend money to a gambling addict, even if it seems right at the moment and you want to help.
I will keep the community up to date, whether the now total of 450 euros will be paid sometime or not.
I can handle anything, but not if I am sold for stupid, put off, lie and treat me like a 12 year old.
nice that you write here again @avantgarde even if immediately with a somewhat unpleasant topic.
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 03:35 pm CET#7
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Lending money to a gambling addict is probably never a good idea. This is not meant to be a justification, of course.
I really like Hammerdammer and find this story sad. It is such a thing with lying.... Sometimes people get entangled deeper and deeper in webs of lies and grad as an addict...I recently read a sentence in the new Schirach book "All addicts lie". I think there is a lot of truth in it (what irony).
Hope the situation clears up and turns to the good.
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 03:48 pm CET#10
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Nice to hear from you again Avantgarde even if it is not exactly positive. What should one say to it now. Only an old wisdom comes to my mind. With money the friendship stops.
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Ronny, Hammerdammer and I have since December a Whatsappgruppe, with Hammerdammer I have already met privately.
Since Hammerdammer had money problems due to serious gambling problems, I helped him out financially several times (probably out of humanity, uhhh...stupidity). It was a total of 400 euros that have accumulated. These should be transferred only completely after salary entrance in January. Since he gambled away the complete salary, I was put off with stalling and for the time being with lies and/or no message from him. After that, installments were agreed upon, since he had now squandered his salary twice in a row. So far so good...
Then it went scarce with electricity back payment and I have him again 150 borrowed (I must confess, I lose here even slowly the overview with so much back and forth).
It then actually came an installment of 150 euros, of which I have then waived another 50 because it was again scarce.
Now last Friday should come 100 euros, but that did not happen. On Tuesday I was told that the money was late according to the bank. Until today nothing is there...Instead of an explanation again Rumdrucksen and no clear answer. In the last Paysafe raffle I donated my part to the two, then I was the great and nice person. I slowly feel totally fooled and also stupid in my naivety.
The moral of the story - never lend money to a gambling addict, even if it seems right at the moment and you want to help.
I will keep the community up to date, whether the now total of 450 euros will be paid sometime or not.
I can handle anything, but not if I am sold for stupid, put off, lie and treat me like a 12 year old.
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Well, that's why "stupidity", even if I meant well. Lesson money for life...but there are always miracles. Let's see...
Vll it is also a warning to all others here ðŸ'ðŸ"
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First, I'm grad fallen from all clouds, because I thought that now finally everything runs and it still takes a good end the whole...unfortunately, I was wrong.
I have great respect for the fact that Andreas was so generous around Christmas and Hammerdammer there has taken under the arms and not only once. Respect for that and also for the fact that he remained very calm when the money did not come (I would not have been able to do so).
I have already been in a similar situation, to sit between the chairs as now somehow again. My two best friends at the time, got into a similar situation as this one. One of them became a gambling addict and the other one borrowed him 6000 Euro, after everything was gambled away and he was about to be kicked out of his apartment. After the gambling addict has told me that he does not intend to pay back this money (the borrowed the money was in the army and has earned quite well, so he thought he will already verkfraften the money not to get back) I had made the other aware of it and broke off contact. The friendship of the two broke down and after several years at least a part of the money was paid back. Why am I writing this now?
I appreciate Hammerdammer very much, everyone here should have noticed that. What I can't stand is to take advantage of someone else's good nature. And that Andreas after the whole theater even borrowed money again (I knew nothing about it until now) and now it starts again.
I can only hope that Hammdammer is so fair and still pays back the money and Andreas now not only sees the bad in everyone who might ask him for help.
The knowledge I have learned from both stories is that I would NEVER lend money to a gambling addict and will......
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nice that you write here again @avantgarde even if immediately with a somewhat unpleasant topic.
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I really like Hammerdammer and find this story sad. It is such a thing with lying.... Sometimes people get entangled deeper and deeper in webs of lies and grad as an addict...I recently read a sentence in the new Schirach book "All addicts lie". I think there is a lot of truth in it (what irony).
Hope the situation clears up and turns to the good.
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