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Gambling addiction in general: I really messed up. Am I a gambling addict?

Topic created on 12th Apr. 2024 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 37 | Views: 2,210
Momo93
Visitor
Hello everyone,

i don't even know where to start. I've known Online Casinos since 2020... Back then it started with a €20 depositor, sometimes I won €100 and it was paid out straight away, oh those were great times... Those were the days when you could even play online casino games at Tipico and you didn't have the 3 second rule... On average, I was always several hundred euros in the black or in the red, not so tragic. After this rule came out, I lost the desire to play.

Then a few years went by and a few months ago I came across Dama N.V. Casinos (through friends who had seen the sites on the streamers). Everything went well at first. I lost and won a few tickets. Once I won €2000 with a bet of €100 and I was the happiest person ever.
I paid out the money and spent it straight away! On household items, clothes etc., it just felt so nice.

Then came the downside a month ago... I deposited €200 and ended up with €800, so I was €600 in the black. I thought to myself, come on, play €100 and pay out exactly €700.
No sooner said than done. But then the next day I thought to myself, hmm, I'm still €500 in the black, in the worst case I lose the €500 and am at plus minus zero...

Long story short: it seems like a tunnel effect to me. I'm €5,000 in the red. 5000€!

I have no more money, I had previously applied for a mini loan of 3000€, got it and gambled it away in the hope that I would get my minus out. Of course, that wasn't the case.

I'm so ashamed, nobody knows about it. I don't know how it happened so quickly. Now I'm at €0, have to pay off the installments every month and so on.

I don't earn too badly, in 3-4 months, minus my expenses, I could make up my minus again.

But I'm totally exhausted and don't know what to do.

Am I already addicted to gambling? This is the first time I've made such a big mess of things. Should I just pull myself together or should I get professional help?
I don't know...

I wanted to share this with you. Thanks for reading.

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lean86
That's exactly how it always went for me and no matter how often I won and how much I won, in the end I played it down again exactly as you described.

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frapi07
Expert
Momo93 wrote on 12.04.2024 at 22:14: Hello everyone,

i don't even know where to start. I've known Online Casinos since 2020... Back then it started with a €20 depositor, sometimes I won €100 and paid it out directly, oh those were great times... That was still the time when you could even play online casino games at Tipico and you didn't have the 3 second rule... On average I was always several hundred euros in the plus or minus, not so tragic. After this rule came out, I lost the desire to play.

Then a few years went by and a few months ago I came across Dama N.V. Casinos (through friends who had seen the sites on the streamers). Everything went well at the beginning. I lost and won a few tickets. Once I won €2000 with a bet of €100 and I was the happiest person ever.
I paid out the money and spent it straight away! On household items, clothes etc., it just felt so nice.

Then came the downside a month ago... I deposited €200 and ended up with €800, so I was €600 in the black. I thought to myself, come on, play €100 and pay out exactly €700.
No sooner said than done. But then the next day I thought to myself, hmm, I'm still €500 in the black, in the worst case I lose the €500 and am at plus minus zero...

Long story short: it seems like a tunnel effect to me. I'm €5,000 in the red. 5000€!

I have no more money, I had previously applied for a mini loan of 3000€, got it and gambled it away in the hope that I would get my minus out. Of course, that wasn't the case.

I'm so ashamed, nobody knows about it. I don't know how it happened so quickly. Now I'm at €0, have to pay off the installments every month and so on.

I don't earn too badly, in 3-4 months, minus my expenses, I could make up my minus again.

But I'm totally exhausted and don't know what to do.

Am I already addicted to gambling? This is the first time I've made such a big mess of things. Should I just pull myself together or should I get professional help?
I don't know...

I wanted to share this with you. Thanks for reading.

No, you're not. This is your first "phase" and you didn't have yourself under control or lost control, but I wouldn't call it a gambling addiction. If you have the urge again after this experience - and you lose a lot of money - then you are addicted.


You just thought that it could go on like this indefinitely or that your luck would bless you again at some point.

Learn from this and move on. It's best to forget about the money. Don't think of it as a minus that you absolutely have to get back. The money is gone. Oasis blocks don't help with the OCs in question. You have to remain steadfast enough. If you can't do it, you can get help.


Be happy that you can pay off 3k (+interest) in 3-4 months. Not everyone is lucky enough to get out of a loan that quickly.

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Langhans
Expert
Actually, you sound very reflective, which is why my first thought was: pay off your loan again and with luck the shock you're in right now was so lasting that you'll just leave it alone again in future. It was an experience: gambling can be fun, but it can also be very expensive if you don't know your limit. Lesson learned, finished...at Christmas no one will be crowing about it.
What makes me a little doubtful, however, is the content of one of your comments from the other day: you talked about 500 bonus buys in a row, which is miles away from a controlled way of playing. So I can't allow myself to pass judgment in the sense of "all-clear". But as Frapi already said: I don't think you're addicted to gambling, but I don't think you're cut out to keep it up in the future either. As things stand, it was just an expensive slip-up and not the end of the world: if it stays that way, it's no drama to be ashamed of.

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frapi07
Expert
Maybe it will help Momo93 if I share my experience.

I was always resistant when it came to gambling/casinos etc.. I couldn't give a f**k. When I was at sixth form, there was a pub/bar near my school that was open in the mornings. At some point, a few of my classmates went there and I went along to see what they were up to. The first time I went there I threw 2€ out of boredom and I managed to make 10€ out of it. I played Fruitinator. It was one of those hanging machines. A year later, I went to a betting shop with a few others during my lunch break. I didn't bet anything there. Anyway, I didn't care about it for a long time, even though a lot of gambling shops opened during that time.


Many years later and I wanted to try my luck for various reasons. First of all, I ventured into sports betting. I was able to win €150 from live bets. Then I made a €100 4-combo bet and won €1,700. Over the next few months, however, I gradually lost them. It was an up & down.

In the meantime, I also tried my luck in the gambling shops. I was very cautious at the beginning. 10€ win = paid out and left. The more often I went, the more money I risked. At some point I was up to €200 or so. I bought something from it and thought it was cool that I hadn't paid for it with the money I'd earned. So I can understand the feeling you had a bit. I often went to the gambling shops, but luck wasn't really on my side anymore. Those €200 were quickly gone and instead of +€200 I was down to -€200 at some point.

But thanks to Corona, I was able to get away from these places. Until then, I would say that I wasn't addicted to gambling. I dealt with the issue, gained experience and experienced highs and lows. Corona forced many casinos to close and that was an opportunity to try out online casinos.

I first played online in Wildz, then Platin. The Platin times were very wild. I often deposited everything I had in my account. From then on, I was actually addicted to gambling. I maintained this gaming behavior for months. I also used Platin because they had Merkur slots. I often gambled on blackhole and co.

I can now keep my gambling under control. I have a trick for this. I set myself an annual goal. I want to have X amount of money at the end of the year. I'm always as happy as a little child when my salary arrives. I've had a 5-figure sum in my account several times and never manage to touch the money.

Before that, I was really stubborn and always paid in arrears. In one night, I made 5-6 bonus buys of €200 each. At the time, I only had enough money left to pay my fixed costs. Incidentally, it was at the beginning of the month. I deposited 5000€ in one day. I almost won it all back, but because I wanted to get out of it with a little profit, I kept playing and then lost it all. I played €500 in Blackjack hands.

That's pretty much my experience with the subject. We are about the same age and you may recognize yourself in a few sentences. By the way, never make the mistake of playing with money that doesn't belong to you. That's the biggest mistake you can ever make. I have always played with my own money. As I wrote before, try to put an end to it. You're not so deep into it yet that you need therapy. It's a question of willpower.

By the way, I'm sure you earn more than me (I work in TC), but I've been through some awesome bet sizes. That alone gives you an idea of how awesome it was for me. I would advise you to stop completely first. The first few weeks may be difficult, your fingers will itch, but you have to persevere. You won't win until you can control yourself. You have to learn that first. But if you no longer feel like gambling during the learning process, then you've definitely won the Jackpot

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R3hab
Expert
When you had no more money, what did you do? Someone who has an addiction would now manipulate his friends and family to get money what about you?

You can also determine this from your thoughts, for example, how many times a day do you think about the casino?

Gambling always has an influence on your psychology, it quickly becomes very nice but also very quickly very shitty

Think that you are in the phase where you are becoming addicted, if you don't stop now it won't get any easier later

You say this happened to you for the first time
So these are also signs that you want to play more and more
Which also fits an addiction

I hope you go to a counseling center and get advice and don't take it lightly and Deposit again.

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Momo93
Visitor

Langhans wrote on 12.04.2024 at 23:13: Actually, you sound very reflective, which is why my first thought was: pay off your loan again and with luck the scare you're in right now was so lasting that you'll just leave it alone again in the future. It was an experience: gambling can be fun, but it can also be very expensive if you don't know your limit. Lesson learned, finished...at Christmas no one will be crowing about it.
What makes me a little doubtful, however, is the content of one of your comments from the other day: you talked about 500 bonus buys in a row, which is miles away from a controlled way of playing. So I can't allow myself to pass judgment in the sense of "all-clear". But as Frapi already said: I don't think you're addicted to gambling, but I don't think you're cut out to keep it up in the future either. As things stand, it was just an expensive slip-up and not the end of the world: if it stays that way, there's no drama to be ashamed of.

Hello Langhans,


exactly, those 500 bonus buys were only recently that contributed greatly to me losing my money. I also actually only played Dead or Alive 2 bonus buys. The 500 bonus buys turned into around 700-800 I guess. I thought to myself, come on, at some point the probability has to push me up again, otherwise the game makes no sense. I was wrong, I think I could have made several thousand bonus buys without success. But you always know that in hindsight... I've done sessions like that recently and never before.

Thank you for your encouraging words.

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Momo93
Visitor

R3hab wrote on 13.04.2024 at 09:05: Where you had no more money what did you do? Jmd who has an addiction would now manipulate his friends and family to get money what about you?

You can also do something like that with your thoughts, how often a day do you think about the casino, for example?

Gambling always has an influence on your psychology, it quickly becomes very nice but also very quickly very shitty

Think that you are in the phase where you are becoming addicted, if you don't stop now it won't get any easier later

You say this happened to you for the first time
So these are also signs that you want to play more and more
Which also fits an addiction

I hope you go to a counseling center and get advice and don't take it lightly and Deposit again.

Where I "had" no more money? So you mean right now


No, family don't know and have never been asked about anything like that and I don't ask my friends for money either. I know that the money is gone and that if I borrow the money is easily gone too. That's why I don't do it.

That's exactly the thing I'm afraid of, that I'm in the early stages. I want to get out of it immediately and that's why I don't ask for money and won't play until I have some again.

It's just a shame that my hard-earned money is gone so quickly. And then this amount too.

I'm still thinking about the advice center. My instinct is that I'll go to one if I deposit again so quickly now that I've made my contribution. Hopefully that won't happen.

Kind regards.

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Momo93
Visitor

frapi07 wrote on 13.04.2024 at 01:31: Maybe it will help Momo93 if I share my experience.

I have always been resistant to gambling shops/casinos etc. I couldn't give a f**k. When I was at sixth form, there was a pub/bar near my school that was open in the mornings. At some point, a few of my classmates went there and I went along to see what they were up to. The first time I went there I threw 2€ out of boredom and I managed to make 10€ out of it. I played Fruitinator. It was one of those hanging machines. A year later, I went to a betting shop with a few others during my lunch break. I didn't bet anything there. Anyway, I didn't care about it for a long time, even though a lot of gambling shops opened during that time.


Many years later and I wanted to try my luck for various reasons. First of all, I ventured into sports betting. I was able to win €150 from live bets. Then I made a €100 4-combo bet and won €1,700. Over the next few months, however, I gradually lost them. It was an up & down.

In the meantime, I also tried my luck in the gambling shops. I was very cautious at the beginning. 10€ win = paid out and left. The more often I went, the more money I risked. At some point I was up to €200 or so. I bought something from it and thought it was cool that I hadn't paid for it with the money I'd earned. So I can understand the feeling you had a bit. I often went to the gambling shops, but luck wasn't really on my side anymore. Those €200 were quickly gone and instead of +€200 I was down to -€200 at some point.

But thanks to Corona, I was able to get away from these places. Until then, I would say that I wasn't addicted to gambling. I dealt with the issue, gained experience and experienced highs and lows. Corona forced many casinos to close and that was an opportunity to try out online casinos.

I first played online in Wildz, then Platin. The Platin times were very wild. I often deposited everything I had in my account. From then on, I was actually addicted to gambling. I maintained this gaming behavior for months. I also used Platin because they had Merkur slots. I often gambled on blackhole and co.

I can now keep my gambling under control. I have a trick for this. I set myself an annual goal. I want to have X amount of money at the end of the year. I'm always as happy as a little child when my salary arrives. I've had a 5-figure sum in my account several times and never manage to touch the money.

Before that, I was really stubborn and always paid in arrears. In one night, I made 5-6 bonus buys of €200 each. At the time, I only had enough money left to pay my fixed costs. Incidentally, it was at the beginning of the month. I deposited 5000€ in one day. I almost won it all back, but because I wanted to get out of it with a little profit, I kept playing and then lost it all. I played €500 in Blackjack hands.

That's pretty much my experience with the subject. We are about the same age and you may recognize yourself in a few sentences. By the way, never make the mistake of playing with money that doesn't belong to you. That's the biggest mistake you can ever make. I have always played with my own money. As I wrote before, try to put an end to it. You're not so deep into it yet that you need therapy. It's a question of willpower.

By the way, I'm sure you earn more than me (I work in TC), but I've been through some awesome bet sizes. That alone gives you an idea of how awesome it was for me. I would advise you to stop completely first. The first few weeks may be difficult, your fingers will itch, but you have to persevere. You won't win until you can control yourself. You have to learn that first. But if you don't feel like gambling at all during the learning process, then you've definitely won the Jackpot

Thank you for your detailed story,

this downside of gambling is so awesome. I'm afraid of that.

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Kleinkariert
Expert
This is a typical loss of control, comes very slowly and you think you have it under control and in reality the opposite is the case.

Later, feelings such as anger, sadness, self-doubt and the suspicion that the game was cheated often come to the surface.

Therefore, pull yourself together, stabilize yourself financially and consider whether you want to continue playing the game like this. It's important to secure your existence and well-being, it feels bad at the beginning and especially in the middle the stimulus will hit you again, but you have to stay strong - once that's done you can at least think clearly again for a while.

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dazzle_tea
Amateur
i think you're on the verge of the cliff (to addiction), so don't jump!

it's really important to just forget about the money. yes, it's a large sum, but not the world. in a few months you'll have paid off the money and have something in your account again that won't go towards the loan. if you manage to tick off the money, you'll have managed the roughest part.

that's exactly what i didn't manage. my story is similar to Frapi's, only it was Roulette for me. i won awesome (Martingale - oh man...) and then lost awesome. then i got everything back but wanted a little bit more as a plus - and that was it.
total also about 3500 - was the world for me back then. had to borrow from a friend, paid it back, didn't look at a casino for years.

then a stupid sms from LocoWin (it was the only advertising I received, I didn't care, I thought I was resistant) made me think: oh come on, give it a try. it worked sooo well. at first. and then the "I could recoup my losses" thoughts came up again. it worked just fine. well, as you can imagine, it didn't last forever and in the meantime I had gotten used to visiting Online Casinos regularly.
i didn't win anything. but i hit just under 5000 euros twice (insane for me!) with bets of 20 and 40 cents. and THAT was really a problem. chasing losses is one thing, but chasing big wins (which you feel like) really wears you down. and empties your pockets. i think i "reinvested" pretty much everything from the wins in the hope of hitting it again.
balance sheet: a good minus overall and no more hits like that, but instead an "implant" in my head. the "big-win-that-can-happen-again" implant. if you're unlucky, you also get a "i-have-to-get-it-back-now-but-again" on top for free. all-round worry fold, so to speak, all inclusive.

really, you wouldn't believe it, but you can only win if you check off the money now and almost be grateful that the bonus buys didn't work out. sounds weird, but that's actually the case.
now you've got a good time to get out of the situation. and nothing has happened apart from a bit of money that you can easily pay off. not everyone can do that. take advantage of this moment. carpe diem and all that. otherwise you'll have to leave at some point and not in a good way.

edit: in fact, i only told my story here in such an epic way to convince you to let it go and look forward to a nice life without this shit. i hope it helps! the longer you swim around in it, the harder it gets to stay afloat.


keep your fingers crossed.

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frapi07
Expert

Momo93 wrote on 13.04.2024 at 12:41 pm:

Thank you too for your detailed story,

this dark side of gaming is so awesome. I'm scared of that.

No problem I left a lot of the wins/losses out because otherwise this really would have gotten too long. I bought an estimated 100+ bonus buys that cost at least 100€. With Platin I deposited an extra 106 or 212€ so that I had enough money (+tax) for the buy. If I made a win, I paid out immediately and if I made a loss, I deposited immediately. I deposited little by little, sometimes until I really had hardly anything left in my account.

I can only recommend that you talk to someone about it. Be it a friend or someone else. You can also use the forum as an outlet, but I find that a one-on-one conversation with an ex-gambler helps best.

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roccoammo11
Expert
if you gamble again then set yourself limits in the casino in case you get into the tunnel and can't Deposit more than you can afford/want...or maybe you have a buddy or friend with the same hobby... who will pat you on the back & tell you to stop...
everyone has a loss of control when gambling at some point...one person empties the whole account & the other gambles away, 'just' a mega win...
The main thing is that your thoughts don't want to win back the money you lost...if this thought comes up at some point it will be dangerous again...

nobodys perfect..shit happens...
don't hang your head...
soon things will look better again!!!

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dazzle_tea
Amateur

frapi07 wrote on April 13th, 2024 at 5:34 pm:

No problem I left out a lot of the wins/losses because otherwise this would have gotten really long. I bought an estimated 100+ bonus buys that cost at least 100€. With Platin I deposited an extra 106 or 212€ so that I had enough money (+tax) for the buy. If I made a win, I paid out immediately and if I made a loss, I deposited immediately. I deposited little by little, sometimes until I really had hardly anything left in my account.

I can only recommend that you talk to someone about it. Be it a friend or someone else. You can also use the forum as an outlet, but I find that a one-on-one conversation with an ex-gambler helps best.

somehow also a form of Martingale. BonusBuy Martingale.

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frapi07
Expert

dazzle_tea wrote on April 13th, 2024 at 9:04 pm:

somehow also a form of Martingale. BonusBuy Martingale.

Yes, roughly Whereby with Bonus Buys you have the possibility to get more than twice as much ^^

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