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Off topic & small talk: Why is it cheaper than water (Page 4)

Topic created on 10th Oct. 2022 | Page: 4 of 4 | Answers: 37 | Views: 4,559
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Peter8 wrote on 10/16/2022 at 10:59 AM

That by legalizing drugs less criminals or dealers are on the road is not quite true, then just other drugs are sold. THC they should not legalize but rather decriminalize

So that the police can concentrate on the heavy drugs. You see in Holland how many accidents happen only because of THC in NL, that will do the people certainly not good, that only helps the state to collect more tax money and the dealers where THC sell then turn to coca or chemistry witness, they already know how it goes on.

Again on the subject of alk, my therapy has begun and there are many because of alcohol here, many were already countless times in a detox + long-term therapy
This is terrible for these people, they are suffering they also need a tool to protect themselves against it. We now have oasis which is a great tool to protect themselves. Why it doesn't exist for alcoholics, I really can't understand and I find that totally disgusting from our state that dry alcoholics don't get the support they actually need

If someone was 10 times in a detoxification and has made 4 long-term therapies, it is only sad for these people that they drink again and again because it is at Aldi and co at the checkout! Something has to happen
That is so bad. And it is very many women affected what has also shocked me a little

This system what runs there with the alcohol must be but very quickly different
Sorry but have zero understanding for it, it does not have to be more expensive but some kind of control for those who want to stay dry is very important. Something like oasis just for alk where you have e.g. in the ID nen sign where you then recognizes okay here is a dry alcoholic who then gets nothing more and kiosks should only be allowed to sell beer and nothing hard

This is a delicate issue and many people are affected by it

The Portuguese model would be a step in the right direction. There, all drugs are decriminalized, and one only has to undergo therapy as a "punishment" for several offenses. There, the focus is much more on the individual, and they try to get people out of their misery instead of punishing them additionally, as in other countries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCNI4rDpBxI&t

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Frankey wrote on 10/16/2022 at 12:52 PM

I agree with you exactly. I myself am not affected but I have been involved in helping the homeless for almost 20 years and have accompanied people in therapy. The commercials only show the nice sides that alcohol has. Similar to the cigarette packets, alcohol advertising should also show the bad sides. The bruises, the accident wrecks and so on. And alcohol should not be visible everywhere. That would certainly help those affected. After all, you have to fight temptation for the rest of your life. I wish you much success with therapy . Stay stable 😉👍

I find really strong, fortunately there are so people like you, who stand up for those who can no longer do it themselves, have earned my utmost respect

Thank you I will ✌

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SlottiKarotti wrote on 10/16/2022 at 1:05 pm

The Portuguese model would be already a step in the right direction. There, all drugs are decriminalized, and you only have to do therapy as a "punishment" for multiple offenses. There, the focus is much more on the individual and they try to get people out of their misery instead of punishing them additionally, as in other countries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCNI4rDpBxI&t


Wow I didn't know that, that's great, why not adopt that I can not understand

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Peter8 wrote on 10/16/2022 at 16:26
Wow I didn't know that, that's awesome, why not adopt that I can't understand

Most politicians in this country don't know about that either. Even the former drug commissioner Marlene Mortler (CDU) knew nothing about it when she was asked in an interview

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Peter8 wrote on 10/16/2022 at 16:25

I find really strong, fortunately there are people like you, who stand up for those who can no longer do it themselves, have earned my greatest respect

Thank you I will ✌

You're welcome. I think in 2018 or 19 I read something about a pilot project that wanted to test an app that would take over the care after therapy. Smart Abstinence Assistant or so it was called.

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After care is already important
only I think that it is important to interact with people and experiences and the current situation of a group can describe, whether that is so good with ner APP, well I do not know

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SlottiKarotti wrote on 10/16/2022 at 18:09

Most politicians in this country don't know about this either. Even the former drug commissioner Marlene Mortler (CDU) did not know anything about it when she was asked about it in an interview

Well that means that she knows it now

there should come so times what from the good Marlene

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Peter8 wrote on 10/17/2022 at 1:13 pm

Well that means she knows now

there should come so times what from the good Marlene

Currently, Burkhard Blienert of the SPD is the commissioner for this, and he is 100% pro legalization. He said the other day that the legalization should probably be through by the beginning of 2024. It depends in the final effect much on the Bundesrat, which must vote on it then. And there are still many CDU members who will vote against it.

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