What had been announced for quite some time is now apparently being implemented:
The "Curacao license" is getting an upgrade - above all, it is supposed to be about more Player protection and anti-money laundering controls; at least on paper.
If this is really strictly(er) pulled through than so far, then so some black sheep with Curacao license could say goodbye. Let's see.
Maria_Sonntag wrote on 21.07.2023 at 11:51: Even if the changes are implemented, Curacao casinos are and will remain illegal in Germany.
And why are then the Curacao casinos still accessible and just not blocked from Germany?
I find with it a kind of deception Stat the player thinks if the corresponding sites are nevertheless there(Curacao casinos) it is legal...
So what is similar but also with Lottoland and Lottohelden no one knows so right it is now legal or not just also because the two sites are still accessible from Germany.
At Lottoland and Lottohelden I think it is legal because you bet only on the results and it is known a private lottery Provider so just clearly not the state lottery 6 out of 49.
The state says in my opinion only always that it would be illegal (Lottoland and Lottohelden) because he sees them as competition which they are also.
Sebi123 wrote on 21.07.2023 at 18:18:
And why are then the Curacao casinos still accessible and just not blocked from Germany?
I find with it a kind of deception Stat the player thinks if the corresponding pages are there nevertheless(Curacao casinos) it is legal...
So what is similar but also with Lottoland and Lottohelden no one knows so right it is now legal or not just also because the two sites are still accessible from Germany.
At Lottoland and Lottohelden I think it is legal because you bet only on the results and it is known a private lottery Provider so just clearly not the state lottery 6 out of 49.
The state says in my opinion only always that it would be illegal (Lottoland and Lottohelden) because he sees them as competition which they are.
Well, if you know that everything outside Germany, without a German license, is illegal... and people register there anyway, sometimes knowingly with VPN to circumvent Geo barriers, it has nothing to do with deception but with their own responsibility / carelessness... ignorance does not protect against punishment, and here you even know it.
Sebi123 wrote on 21.07.2023 at 18:18:
And why are then the Curacao casinos still accessible and just not blocked from Germany?
I find with it a kind of deception Stat the player thinks if the corresponding sites are there yet(Curacao casinos) it is legal...
So what is similar but also with Lottoland and Lottohelden no one knows so right it is now legal or not just also because the two sites are still accessible from Germany.
At Lottoland and Lottohelden I think it is legal because you bet only on the results and it is known a private lottery Provider so just clearly not the state lottery 6 out of 49.
The state says in my opinion only always that it would be illegal (Lottoland and Lottohelden) because he sees them as competition what they are.
It is actually quite simple. If a provider is not in this list, it is illegal. Finished. Whether betting, lotto, slots, casino,... If the provider is not listed in the whitelist, it is currently illegal in Germany. No gray area, no discretionary leeway.
Illegal is when something is forbidden in one country and you try to get it in another. Is it illegal to gamble in Germany? No. It is all the same to other European countries, only with restrictions to the disadvantage of the players like 5 seconds pause, low RTP etc. It's like shopping, you compare prices and services. The product, which is better, is then bought.
The state classifies this as illegal, because the state wants to make money. The state is not interested in the fact that we will lose our money faster in casinos with a license. Many of us are forced to register at the casinos with Curacao license, because we want to have a little fun with our own money and maybe win a little money.
T0uchTheSky wrote on 22/07/2023 at 00:15: Illegal is when something is banned in one country and you try to get that in another. Is it illegal to gamble in Germany? No! It's all the same to other European countries, just with restrictions to the disadvantage of the players like 5 seconds pause, low RTP etc. It's like shopping, you compare prices and services. The product, which is better, is then bought.
The state classifies this as illegal, because the state wants to make money. The state is not interested in the fact that we will lose our money faster in casinos with a license. Many of us are forced to register at the casinos with Curacao license, because we want to have a little fun with our own money and maybe win a little money.
That's exactly how I see it.
A Malta or Curacao casino is located in Germany, so the law of Malta or Curacao applies and if the play for players from Germany allow everything is okay.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer but that's how I think at least.
And of course the state says that only his casinos are legal is understandable because he does not want you to play in other casinos.
Langhans wrote on 23.07.2023 at 13:29:
Sure you can lay down on the beach in Malta with your laptop and legally shoot at LocoWin Or march into any casino in the world.
yes sure but with a payout to the bank account wirds again difficult..offline it will be absolutely no problem but online you have only the advantage that it does not need vpn....
yes sure but with a payout to the bank account it will be difficult again..offline it will be absolutely no problem but online you only have the advantage that it does not need a vpn....
the thought with the payout came to me honestly just already But play is at least times allowed and that was the question
hustlehoff wrote on 23.07.2023 at 13:23: Does anyone know what the legal situation is when you are abroad and play online or go to an offline casino?
Offline you can of course go to any casino anywhere in the world.
Online is probably already problematic, because you have to register with your correct data at the casino. Just because you are abroad, you do not suddenly have a different address. In case of doubt, the casino will not pay out your win if you register with a hotel address or similar.
And if you log in with your German data, you have the same problem with the German law.
Offline, of course, you can go to any casino anywhere in the world.
Online is probably problematic, because you have to register with your correct data at the casino. Just because you are abroad, you do not suddenly have a different address. In case of doubt, the casino will not pay out your win if you register with a hotel address or similar.
And if you log in with your German data, you have the same problem with the German law.
That's true of course, but you would have to know exactly how that is, if you claim you were abroad at the time of playing, there are not only VPN`s you can get a socks5 proxy from any country or place in the country, nowadays in any case, any city there is, I would say you can get to an IP that tunnels your data. Now the question is, does it matter where you reside if you were abroad at the time of using the online service? I would really like to know exactly what the legal situation is. And you can also request the log files at the casino with which IP you were logged in when theoretically and if you can even prove via casino log files that you were not in Germany at the time *wink* Only the question is also to what extent the casinos there play along with MGA and so already have heard that there have been problems where people have gambled from the vacation... what but eig should not be a problem if you report it to the casino or in the Live Chat before asking whether it is ok from the "vacation" to play with an IP from a different country than usual... at Crypto Casinos it should be no problem anyway.
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The "Curacao license" is getting an upgrade - above all, it is supposed to be about more Player protection and anti-money laundering controls; at least on paper.
If this is really strictly(er) pulled through than so far, then so some black sheep with Curacao license could say goodbye. Let's see.
Here the text to read (English):
Source: https://igamingbusiness.com/legal-compliance/curacao-master-licences-get-one-year-extension/
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And why are then the Curacao casinos still accessible and just not blocked from Germany?
I find with it a kind of deception Stat the player thinks if the corresponding sites are nevertheless there(Curacao casinos) it is legal...
So what is similar but also with Lottoland and Lottohelden no one knows so right it is now legal or not just also because the two sites are still accessible from Germany.
At Lottoland and Lottohelden I think it is legal because you bet only on the results and it is known a private lottery Provider so just clearly not the state lottery 6 out of 49.
The state says in my opinion only always that it would be illegal (Lottoland and Lottohelden) because he sees them as competition which they are also.
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Well, if you know that everything outside Germany, without a German license, is illegal... and people register there anyway, sometimes knowingly with VPN to circumvent Geo barriers, it has nothing to do with deception but with their own responsibility / carelessness... ignorance does not protect against punishment, and here you even know it.
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It is actually quite simple. If a provider is not in this list, it is illegal. Finished. Whether betting, lotto, slots, casino,... If the provider is not listed in the whitelist, it is currently illegal in Germany. No gray area, no discretionary leeway.
https://www.gluecksspiel-behoerde.de/de/erlaubnisfaehigesgluecksspiel/whitelist
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The state classifies this as illegal, because the state wants to make money. The state is not interested in the fact that we will lose our money faster in casinos with a license. Many of us are forced to register at the casinos with Curacao license, because we want to have a little fun with our own money and maybe win a little money.
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That's exactly how I see it.
A Malta or Curacao casino is located in Germany, so the law of Malta or Curacao applies and if the play for players from Germany allow everything is okay.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer but that's how I think at least.
And of course the state says that only his casinos are legal is understandable because he does not want you to play in other casinos.
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The fact is that any casino that does not have a license from the GGL is illegal in Germany. End.
I think that's stupid too, but that's the legal situation since 2021.
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Of course you can lay down on the beach in Malta with your laptop and legally ball at LocoWin Or march into any casino in the world.
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yes sure but with a payout to the bank account wirds again difficult..offline it will be absolutely no problem but online you have only the advantage that it does not need vpn....
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the thought with the payout came to me honestly just already But play is at least times allowed and that was the question
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Offline you can of course go to any casino anywhere in the world.
Online is probably already problematic, because you have to register with your correct data at the casino. Just because you are abroad, you do not suddenly have a different address. In case of doubt, the casino will not pay out your win if you register with a hotel address or similar.
And if you log in with your German data, you have the same problem with the German law.
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That's true of course, but you would have to know exactly how that is, if you claim you were abroad at the time of playing, there are not only VPN`s you can get a socks5 proxy from any country or place in the country, nowadays in any case, any city there is, I would say you can get to an IP that tunnels your data. Now the question is, does it matter where you reside if you were abroad at the time of using the online service? I would really like to know exactly what the legal situation is. And you can also request the log files at the casino with which IP you were logged in when theoretically and if you can even prove via casino log files that you were not in Germany at the time *wink* Only the question is also to what extent the casinos there play along with MGA and so already have heard that there have been problems where people have gambled from the vacation... what but eig should not be a problem if you report it to the casino or in the Live Chat before asking whether it is ok from the "vacation" to play with an IP from a different country than usual... at Crypto Casinos it should be no problem anyway.
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