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Online Casinos in general: Winz.io - steady downhill and no wins (Page 2)

Topic created on 04th Nov. 2024 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 37 | Views: 2,215
MisterL
Expert
you can also feel like you've been brushed off

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frapi07
Elite
Daniel1988 wrote on 04.11.2024 at 21:23:

Has his arrogance become his undoing?

I just watched a 9 month old video with 50.000€ buys at only Elk Slots.
He blasphemed about streamers who used demo buys and who are all starving.
In addition to winz.Io, he also streamed for bc.game.
These high bonus buys also have an influence on the wins of normal gamers.

Whether you can call that arrogance - I don't know. I wouldn't say that about him.

Yes, there was a little "beef" between him and another Youtuber because the other Youtuber was playing with fake credits. You can recognize that very easily. CK didn't do that and proved it several times, for example by providing replay links. You don't get them in the demo function. Of course, this person didn't put up with it and shot back at the CK. I can therefore understand his blasphemy quite well, because the other Youtuber is acting immorally, while there are other streamers/content creators who play with real money and Risk much more. People who do this don't deserve to be big. Rohstein etc. is also one of them for me. They risk nothing and only do harm.

Yes, not only for BC.Game, but also for Stake or most recently Vave.

Whether these high bonus buys have the same influence is hard to say. The vast majority have certainly never imitated such high buys. I therefore find people who play with humane bets much more dangerous. The majority can afford these bets. The risk that you then Deposit €200 yourself and turn to €1 is therefore greater than if you look at a CK that loses €100-200,000.


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XXLEONIDASXX
Top Member
I feel the same way with winz...I used to be very happy with them...but for half a year now nothing has worked for me, I've had game crashes a few times now. There's nothing good on the wheel any more and when I ask in chat, the most they'll give me is 50 games for 10 cents, which is a maximum of €2. I've already asked several times if I can't get something credited from the management, because I Deposit regularly every month and have almost 500k € turnover and a lot of loss. every time they say they will be forwarded and someone will get back to me and no one has ever contacted me from the management.

I also didn't know that the RTP had been lowered.

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frapi07
Elite

XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 04/11/2024 23:49:

I didn't know that the RTP was lowered there either, for example.

CK had told me that shortly before he was struck. Just looked it up: It was at the beginning of October. He also made negative comments about it to Winz in a video, but the video was immediately blocked by YT.

He then immediately ended his cooperation with Winz. There has been no leaderboard since then.

I have already discussed it with T0uch and Zocker0815. He will most likely not have ended the cooperation just because of his viewers. Maybe partly, but not only. We've often heard that he played there privately from time to time (he preferred Stake/BC), but you have to give him credit, because not many people would have done that. Many others wouldn't even have mentioned it and would have accepted it.

The uncool thing is that they lowered the RTP and didn't communicate it anywhere. A general email would only have been fair. But you look in vain for fairness in this industry.

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XXLEONIDASXX
Top Member

frapi07 wrote on 05.11.2024 00:18:

CK had told that just before he was striked. Just looked it up: It was at the beginning of October. He also made negative comments about it to Winz in a video, but the video was immediately blocked by YT.

He then immediately ended his cooperation with Winz. There has been no leaderboard since then.

I have already discussed it with T0uch and Zocker0815. He will most likely not have ended the cooperation just because of his viewers. Maybe partly, but not only. We've often heard that he played there privately from time to time (he preferred Stake/BC), but you have to give him credit, because not many people would have done that. Many others wouldn't even have mentioned it and would have accepted it.

The uncool thing is that they lowered the RTP and didn't communicate it anywhere. A general email would only have been fair. But you look in vain for fairness in this industry.

It's really cheeky that they didn't even send an email and inform people...that explains why things are going so badly...

I noticed that with the leaderboard...I was almost always there...

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frapi07
Elite

XXLEONIDASXX wrote on November 05, 2024 at 12:33 pm:

Really cheeky that there wasn't even nh mail and people were informed...that explains a lot why things are going so badly...

I noticed that with the leaderboard...I was almost always on it.

Yes, I think so too. Unfortunately, there's little you can do about it except stop playing. The RTP reduction doesn't affect me personally, as I only play Live Casino there. But Winz has a significantly worse RTP compared to Stake and co., which is why it's really no longer worth playing slots there.

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Marieangels
Amateur
That's why I left Winz. It was all downhill from there. After 13 years, I can already tell the difference between gambling and manipulation. Strangely enough, there are always a few who win there and defend it too, but most experience the same thing with the casino. There are still good casinos on the market, everyone decides based on their experience. I went back to a licensed casino (Mr Green) where I used to win well. Yes, the RTP is worse and the 5s rule is annoying, but I was able to withdraw €170 with a €30 depositor. There's always a slot that works. I didn't have any stomach aches during the payout and the money was on my Visa in 10 minutes. What good is a four-figure win that I lose again anyway because I get ripped off by every casino afterwards?

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frapi07
Elite

Marieangels wrote on 05.11.2024 at 13:41: That's why I'm out of Winz. It has only gone downhill. After 13 years, I can already tell the difference between gambling and manipulation. Oddly enough, there are always a few that win there and defend it too, but most experience the same thing with the casino. There are still good casinos on the market, everyone decides based on their experience. I went back to a licensed casino (Mr Green) where I used to win well. Yes, the RTP is worse and the 5s rule is annoying, but I was able to withdraw €170 with a €30 depositor. There's always a slot that works. I didn't have any stomach aches during the payout and the money was on my Visa in 10 minutes. What good is a four-figure win that I lose again anyway because I get ripped off by every casino afterwards?

We had the same story with Platin. It's always the same users who would have defended Platin etc. etc.

Seriously, what are users supposed to write when they win and have a good experience? Sure, they're not just winning, but should you lie about it to go along with the masses?

It was the same with me and Platin. Until the license change took place, I was happy with them, even though I was sometimes €8,000 in the red. Yes, I also had a losing streak, but hey... that's how gambling works.

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colmuks
Rookie
Despite several attempts - no Concession!
Winz.io has already become somewhat dubious. As I've already mentioned, other people close to me and acquaintances are behaving in a similar way. So I'm probably not the only one.
Since I've been active in casinos for over 20 years, I think I can judge this quite well.

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Touchy123
Rookie
Today winz cheated me too. They sent me this 30 freebet as an email. I deposited, activated the bonus and lost the bet...
Cashback?
Nothing, of course, and you can't see anything under Bonus History. For me, the store is over.

I will Deposit 0.0 here

The casino rtp is also very bad for me on the side. But I haven't deposited anything for this reason for at least half a year.

So now they've fooled me again, but that's it for good.

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frapi07
Elite

Touchy123 wrote on 06.11.2024 at 21:42: Today winz scammed me too. Sent me this 30 freebet as an email. Deposited, activated bonus and lost bet...
Cashback?
Of course nothing and you can't see anything under Bonus History. For me, the store is over.

I will Deposit 0.0 here

The casino rtp is also very bad for me on the side. But I haven't deposited anything for this reason for at least half a year.

So now they've fooled me again, but that's it for good.

"The daily rakeback is calculated once a day at 00:00 UTC."

"The weekly Cashback is calculated once a week, on Mondays at 00:00 UTC."


So if you are at least level 1 bronze, the rakeback/cashback will only be calculated and credited at the specified time

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Touchy123
Rookie
It's about the No Risk free bet in sports betting.

They defrauded me and the customer service just replied that there was nothing they could do.

You don't need to defend this shitty store.

They offer a Matchday4 code and not a free bet, even though it says so in the email.

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Touchy123
Rookie

So they see on the PC that I have activated, but they know exactly that no gift symbol was visible. That's really cheeky. So I have 30 euros down the drain again.
That's 3 hours of work because I only earn 12.50 net.

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frapi07
Elite

Touchy123 wrote on 06.11.2024 at 23:35: It's about the No Risk free bet in sports betting.

They cheated me and the customer service just answered me that they can't do anything.

No need to defend this shitty store.

They offer a Matchday4 code and not a free bet, even though it says so in the email.


I am not defending Winz. To be precise, I am the one who pointed out the RTP reduction here in the forum and criticized it.

I don't know the details of the email, so I can't write anything about it. Can you perhaps post them?

Unfortunately, there is little you can do about it because they are also in Curacao. I would therefore always play at the German bookies when betting on sports (unless they are blocked or the limit has been reached).

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Donnie
Elite
Touchy123 wrote on 06.11.2024 at 23:43:

So they see on the PC that I have activated, but know exactly that no gift symbol was visible. That's really cheeky. So I have 30 euros in the sink again.
That's 3 hours of work because I only earn 12.50 net.

Shouldn't really be a big deal. There are conditions for such a Risk-free bet. Then you just take a screenshot of the conditions and the betting slip. With risk-free you should get your money back immediately after the lost bet. I'm not registered there and don't know what the offers look like, but it should be clear because the Dama booths are almost all identical anyway. Why annoy people with crap like this?

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