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Online Casinos in general: House bank and casinos without a license

Topic created on 06th Nov. 2023 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 10 | Views: 1,813
trifftnix
Hello everyone, something strange happened to me today and I would like to know if any of you have experienced something similar. Now to the topic,
i don't think I'm the only one who occasionally visits unlicensed casino sites in Germany. Have you ever had problems with your bank due to a withdrawal from an unlicensed casino? I was lucky again on November 2nd and made €20 900 at DrückGlück, now my house bank called me today and wanted to know if the money came from gambling and if so, from which casino. As this was fortunately a licensed casino, it was enough for him when I told him the Provider DrückGlück. What would happen if this money had come from an unlicensed casino? Would my account be blocked and/or would I be reported to the police? Freeze my money on suspicion of money laundering? It would be nice if someone could say something concrete about this

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WithoutWings
Top Member
After 2 account terminations, I can tell you that this is exactly what would happen...not necessarily a report, but the account is gone. And in addition, the Schufa score decreases because the Schufa score always decreases by about 1-2 points for 3 years when you change banks.

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Stromberg
Legend
Based on all the experiences described here, I think you can say that what happens in such a case depends heavily on the bank and the advisor.
But since they have already asked you, I agree with withoutwings that a termination is very likely.

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trifftnix
Thanks for the answers. Ok that's awesome, the last thing I would have expected was that the banks would get involved like that. until the end of last year I still played regularly at WestCasino and also won larger sums there from time to time which were of course also transferred to my house bank account. I've never had any problems so far, but the call from the bank and the above-mentioned account termination gives me food for thought.

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WithoutWings
Top Member

trifftnix wrote on 07.11.2023 at 10:49 am: Thanks for the answers. Ok that's awesome, that the banks are so involved would be the last thing I would have expected. until the end of last year I still played regularly at WestCasino and won some bigger sums there from time to time which of course were also transferred to my house bank account. I've never had any problems so far, but the call from the bank and the above-mentioned account termination gives me pause for thought.

When they call, it's often like the last warning or it's already too late anyway, sooner or later there will almost always be a termination. I had such a call before my first termination about 6 months later came the letter

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trifftnix
small update and topic closed for me

The experience with the account closure really frightened me, so I picked up the phone and called my advisor at the savings bank and asked how and why the bank was interested in an incoming payment of x€.

House bank SPARKASSE!!!

According to the advisor, a message came from the internal money laundering department, which was sent out due to the incoming payment from Inpay AS.
He told me that the banks are required to check such transfers in connection with gambling as there are still many providers without licenses on the market. When I asked what would happen if I received a transfer from an illegal Provider, I was told the following: "If this payment had been received from an illegal provider, I would probably have been given a chance to refrain and the account would have been closed if it happened again". So as Withoutwings had already written above.
When I asked why the bank doesn't just check where the money comes from, I was told that they can't see who is hiding behind Inpay AS.
For me, this means that every payment that does not allow any conclusions to be drawn about the sender is reported to the SPARKASSE as suspected money laundering. So you are placed under general suspicion here, and in the worst case, as in my case, you have to justify a legal payout.

People take care of yourselves,
For example, the €50 maxcashout from the Sugar Freespins could result in your account being closed.


I'm really lost for words here.

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Tonkabohne
Top Member

trifftnix wrote on 08.11.2023 at 11:17 am: small update and topic for me thus also finished

The experience with the account closure really scared me, so I grabbed the phone and called my advisor at the savings bank and asked how and why the cash register is interested in a payment receipt of x€.

House bank SPARKASSE!!!

According to the advisor, a message came from the internal money laundering department, which was sent out due to the incoming payment from Inpay AS.
He told me that the banks are required to check such transfers in connection with gambling as there are still many providers without licenses on the market. When I asked what would happen if I received a transfer from an illegal Provider, I was told the following: "If this payment had been received from an illegal provider, I would probably have been given a chance to desist and the account would have been closed if it happened again". So as Withoutwings had already written above.
When I asked why the bank doesn't just check where the money comes from, I was told that they couldn't see who was hiding behind Inpay AS.
For me, this means that every payment that does not allow any conclusions to be drawn about the sender is reported to the SPARKASSE as suspected money laundering. So you are placed under general suspicion here, and in the worst case, as in my case, you have to justify a legal payout.

People take care of yourselves,
For example, the €50 maxcashout from the Sugar Freespins could result in your account being closed.


I'm really lost for words here.


Yes, very awesome!

That's why you should always use an e-wallet.

Book from it to a CC account with account function or without and then withdraw at the ATM (if debit card available)

Then Deposit money in cash into your account or leave it in the CC account

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dersawen
Top Member

Tonka Bean wrote on 08.11.2023 at 14:27:


Yes very awesome !

Therefore always use an e-wallet.

Book from it to a CC account with account function or without and then withdraw at the ATM (if debit card available)

Then Deposit money in cash into your account or leave it in the CC account

anyone who deposits a large sum of money in cash into their account is also guilty of money laundering... just by the way

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Tonkabohne
Top Member

dersawen wrote on 09.11.2023 at 14:16:

whoever pays a large sum of money in cash into his account is also guilty of money laundering... just by the way

Just by the way.


From 10k you have to explain where the money comes from.

It's on the notice board of every bank.

And if you're clever, you'll think of something

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dersawen
Top Member

Tonka Bean wrote on 09.11.2023 at 15:14:

Just by the way.


From 10k you have to explain where the money comes from.

It's on the notice board of every bank.

And if you're clever, you'll think of something

was further down and yet they wanted to know where the money came from... just by the way

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needle34
Expert

trifftnix wrote on 06.11.2023 at 22:48: Hi everyone, something strange happened to me today and I would like to know if any of you have experienced something similar. Now to the topic,
i don't think I'm the only one who occasionally hangs around on unlicensed casino sites in Germany. Have you ever had problems with your bank due to a withdrawal from an unlicensed casino? I was lucky again on 2.11 and made €20 900 at DrückGlück, now my house bank called me today and wanted to know if the money came from gambling and if so from which casino. As this was fortunately a licensed casino, it was enough for him when I told him the Provider DrückGlück. What would happen if this money had come from an unlicensed casino? Would my account be blocked and/or would I be reported to the police? Freeze my money on suspicion of money laundering? It would be nice if someone could say something concrete about this

They blocked me back then because Videoslots would be blacklisted. An old man was totally unfriendly and disrespectful towards me, I then deleted my account and will no longer go to this bank

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