Julian wrote on 05/07/2021 at 13:20: Hello Marqes,
We talked about the thread in the team meeting today, and are addressing some of your questions to that effect.
No German licenses have been awarded to casinos / gaming arcades yet, this also affects StarGames
They have only applied for a license at this stage, it will be seen in the near future if they will get a German license. Because it is only recommended to adhere to the guidelines of the new German State Treaty on Gaming and is therefore far from a guarantee to get the license.
And this ultimately affects all casinos / gaming arcades that have applied for it, since the license has not yet been awarded to a single provider.
Thus, the whole issue of legality and illegality is suspended at the present time.
As mentioned above, we ourselves are still unclear on some issues and can therefore not really comment on certain things, and therefore have to wait and see how everything develops.
And that means in plain language let's call it like it is there will certainly be some casinos that come back in the long term / abolish the rules and the whole reinforces my feeling that all reactions to the current 01.07 are made out of pure panic and ignorance without having a real basis to have
In addition, only from day X where the license applies everything should be 100% legal or even illegal because no license = no casinos that are allowed under German law so still the same game DE evil casinos EU comes all here
Agree with post #10. It's a mess at the moment, simply because the
GlüStV 2021 is valid in DE from July 1, and licenses probably won't be
be issued. What seems to be forbidden are deposits to illegal casinos.
If you are unlucky, they close accounts or casinos withhold wins.
A VPN doesn't change that as long as you use German payment systems.
Although the Bafin does not want to control, this is no security, because federal states
decide for themselves and arbitrarily determine their banks. Sad all.
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Julian wrote on 05/07/2021 at 13:20: Hello Marqes,
We talked about the thread in the team meeting today, and are addressing some of your questions to that effect.
No German licenses have been issued to casinos / gaming arcades yet, this also affects StarGames
They have only applied for a license at this stage, it will be seen in the near future if they will get a German license. Because it is only recommended to adhere to the guidelines of the new German State Treaty on Gaming and is therefore far from a guarantee to get the license.
And this ultimately affects all casinos / gaming arcades that have applied for it, since the license has not yet been awarded to a single provider.
Thus, the whole issue of legality and illegality is suspended at the present time.
As mentioned above, we ourselves are still unclear on some issues and can therefore not really comment on certain things, and therefore have to wait and see how everything develops.
Catherine2 wrote on 05/07/2021 at 14:18: Agree with post #10. It's a mess at the moment, just because the
GlüStV 2021 is valid in DE from July 1 and licenses probably won't be
be issued. What seems to be forbidden are deposits to illegal casinos.
If you are unlucky, they close accounts or casinos withhold wins.
A VPN doesn't change that as long as you use German payment systems.
Although the Bafin does not want to control, this is no security, because federal states
decide for themselves and arbitrarily determine their banks. Sad all.
As long as there is no license, nothing matters ^^ read julians post properly
Nick1895 wrote on 05/07/2021 at 15:43
As long as there is no license, nothing matters ^^ read julians post properly
Yes, nevertheless it runs real in such a way that deposits to illegal Casinos are illegal and for
Banks the reason to cancel accounts, as you can read here impressively.
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Katharina2 wrote on 05.07.2021 at 16:25
Yes, nevertheless it runs real in such a way that deposits to illegal Casinos are illegal and for
Banks the reason to cancel accounts, as you can read here impressively.
Not only read but also understand is the motto
The fact is, there are neither legal nor illegal casinos as long as no licenses are distributed
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unicorn wrote on 05.07.2021 at 16:47
Not only read but also understand is the motto
The fact is, there are neither legal nor illegal casinos as long as no licenses are distributed -- Part of message removed due to provocation / offtopic conversations --
No one is disputing that, including me. This is about the real situation
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Katharina2 wrote on 05.07.2021 at 16:25
Yes, nevertheless it runs real in such a way that deposits to illegal Casinos are illegal and for
Banks the reason to cancel accounts, as you can read here impressively.
There are no illegal casinos, because there are currently no licenses !!!
Still, in principle, everything is as before 1.7 and there it was not illegal but a gray area. The casinos that have now converted still apply for the license, what do you not understand? Julian has but everything explicitly explained but you contradict the just again... no offense, but Julian I trust in the respect more ^^. if your bank cancels you, it has zZ nix with the 1.7 to do! Or have you read anything here that something like that happened ? I have not. Then simply the respective bank is shit or the respective consultant or one has simply exaggerated it with certain sums.
Hello, you always write perfectly.
"https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/vollkommen"
Is noted for the future, thanks for pointing it out
Yes, nevertheless, it runs real so that deposits to illegal casinos are illegal and for
banks the reason to cancel accounts, as you can read here impressively.
For banks, theoretically, anything can be a reason to cancel your account, even if they just do not like your nose.
If I remember correctly, there were already individual cases in 2015-2016 of players whose banks closed the player's account. Whether it was always just about gambling, or whether that was just used as a pretext in some cases, because there was something else going on, remains to be seen.
I think Nick1895 has addressed it pretty well, it just ultimately depends on the bank and the respective consultant, how they generally deal with the issue.
With my account in Germany, for example, there have never been any problems with it in all the years, even when I had called there one day to note for safety's sake that a somewhat larger sum from an online casino will soon arrive, there was only the answer from my advisor that it was completely okay and I should not worry.
Therefore, as I said, it is also somewhat difficult to properly address this issue, because you can not say in general how the individual banks or consultants react to something like that.
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And that means in plain language let's call it like it is there will certainly be some casinos that come back in the long term / abolish the rules and the whole reinforces my feeling that all reactions to the current 01.07 are made out of pure panic and ignorance without having a real basis to have
In addition, only from day X where the license applies everything should be 100% legal or even illegal because no license = no casinos that are allowed under German law so still the same game DE evil casinos EU comes all here
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GlüStV 2021 is valid in DE from July 1, and licenses probably won't be
be issued. What seems to be forbidden are deposits to illegal casinos.
If you are unlucky, they close accounts or casinos withhold wins.
A VPN doesn't change that as long as you use German payment systems.
Although the Bafin does not want to control, this is no security, because federal states
decide for themselves and arbitrarily determine their banks. Sad all.
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Hello, you always write perfectly
"https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/vollkommen"
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As long as there is no license, nothing matters ^^ read julians post properly
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Yes, nevertheless it runs real in such a way that deposits to illegal Casinos are illegal and for
Banks the reason to cancel accounts, as you can read here impressively.
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Not only read but also understand is the motto
The fact is, there are neither legal nor illegal casinos as long as no licenses are distributed
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No one is disputing that, including me. This is about the real situation
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There are no illegal casinos, because there are currently no licenses !!!
Still, in principle, everything is as before 1.7 and there it was not illegal but a gray area. The casinos that have now converted still apply for the license, what do you not understand? Julian has but everything explicitly explained but you contradict the just again... no offense, but Julian I trust in the respect more ^^. if your bank cancels you, it has zZ nix with the 1.7 to do! Or have you read anything here that something like that happened ? I have not. Then simply the respective bank is shit or the respective consultant or one has simply exaggerated it with certain sums.
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Is noted for the future, thanks for pointing it out
For banks, theoretically, anything can be a reason to cancel your account, even if they just do not like your nose.
If I remember correctly, there were already individual cases in 2015-2016 of players whose banks closed the player's account. Whether it was always just about gambling, or whether that was just used as a pretext in some cases, because there was something else going on, remains to be seen.
I think Nick1895 has addressed it pretty well, it just ultimately depends on the bank and the respective consultant, how they generally deal with the issue.
With my account in Germany, for example, there have never been any problems with it in all the years, even when I had called there one day to note for safety's sake that a somewhat larger sum from an online casino will soon arrive, there was only the answer from my advisor that it was completely okay and I should not worry.
Therefore, as I said, it is also somewhat difficult to properly address this issue, because you can not say in general how the individual banks or consultants react to something like that.
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