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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 105)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 105 of 105 | Answers: 1,046 | Views: 265,187
Olli_Eule
Legend

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

12th Apr. 2025, at 03:12 pm CEST#1045
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erdbeere1990 wrote on 12.04.2025 09:46:

Yes, let's see what comes around with me first without a lawyer and statement. It will only take until the end of April and then until I get mail I would be interested to know if there are currently new settings?

something like this can happen to anyone, who knows that these sites are illegal. There are so many offers on the internet, who really thinks about whether they are legal?


I also played something like this, but only until the beginning of 2021.

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Butterbrezel
Elite

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

12th Apr. 2025, at 06:50 pm CEST#1046
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Olli_Eule wrote on 12.04.2025 at 15:12:

something like this can happen to anyone, who can know that these sites are illegal. The Internet offers so many offers, who thinks about whether this is right?


I also played something like this, but only until the beginning of 2021.

That's right. I thought that too.


We who are active in this "scene" know that, of course. But a user (I hate using genders, but I don't know whether it's the or the strawberry ) who is playing for the first time, how is this person supposed to know that?

I think if it ever comes to a lawsuit, the lawyer can argue accordingly.

All these criminal proceedings are somehow just a waste of tax money because they'll be dropped anyway.

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frapi07
Elite

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

12th Apr. 2025, at 08:11 pm CEST#1047
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Butterbrezel wrote on April 12th, 2025 at 6:50 pm:

Right. I thought the same thing myself.


We who are active in this "scene" know that, of course. But a user (I hate using genders, but I don't know whether it's the or the strawberry ) who is playing for the first time, how is this person supposed to know that?

I think if it ever comes to a lawsuit, the lawyer can argue accordingly.

All the criminal proceedings are somehow just a waste of tax money because they are dropped anyway.

It's also about people who are not so IT-savvy. I remain of the opinion that there is hardly any overview and that some providers exploit this and make it appear that playing with them is legal. German site, German support, TAX... I find it weak to just point the finger at the player and only punish them.

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erdbeere1990
Visitor

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

12th Apr. 2025, at 08:32 pm CEST#1048
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Butterbrezel wrote on April 12th, 2025 at 6:50 pm:

Right. I thought the same thing myself.


We who are active in this "scene" know that, of course. But a user (I hate using genders, but I don't know whether it's the or the strawberry ) who is playing for the first time, how is this person supposed to know that?

I think if it ever comes to a lawsuit, the lawyer can argue accordingly.

All the criminal proceedings are somehow just a waste of taxes because they are dropped anyway.

Do they really stop that much? I've read that some people have already had to pay €2000 + 90 daily rates etc. In my case it was only about 3-5 depositors and my very first payout of 4000€ in my whole life but oh well

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frapi07
Elite

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

12th Apr. 2025, at 10:06 pm CEST#1049
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erdbeere1990 wrote on April 12th, 2025 at 8:32 pm:

Is it really that much? I read that some already had to pay 2000€ + 90 daily rates etc. For me it was only about 3-5 depositors and my very first payout of 4000€ in my whole life but well

Yes, some have to pay, but most cases are closed. Withoutwings has had it stopped twice. He was dealing with significant sums.

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solaris
Visitor

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

30th Apr. 2025, at 02:04 pm CEST#1050
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I have received an update from my lawyer. Does this mean future problems with the tax office?

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in the above-mentioned proceedings, I issued the following ruling on 15.04.2025
Decision:
The investigation proceedings are discontinued in accordance with Section 170 (2) SIPO.
Due to statutory notification obligations, the above decision was communicated to the following recipient(s)
Recipient(s):
- Central Office for Financial Investigations

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bruffl
Expert

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

1st May. 2025, at 08:20 am CEST#1051
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solaris wrote on 30.04.2025 at 14:04: I have received an update from my lawyer. Does this mean future problems with the tax office?

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in the above-mentioned proceedings, I made the following decision by order dated 15.04.2025
Decision:
The investigation proceedings are discontinued in accordance with Section 170 (2) SIPO.
Due to statutory notification obligations, the above decision was communicated to the following recipient(s)
Recipient(s):
- Central Office for Financial Investigations

****


"* Central Financial Intelligence Unit: This office is an authority that deals with the investigation of white-collar crime and money laundering. The notification to this office is based on statutory reporting obligations, which indicates that the underlying investigation may have had financial aspects. Even if the proceedings have now been discontinued, certain information must be passed on to this body."


I don't know what bets you were playing with. Generally speaking, there shouldn't be much interest, as money laundering can probably be ruled out.

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