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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 101)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 101 of 105 | Answers: 1,044 | Views: 262,366
Zockerbernd
Amateur

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

3rd Apr. 2025, at 09:35 am CEST#1005
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You can talk all you want, if I go on "vacation" or a trip and play at Viggoslots or somewhere else with a Curacao license and pay out my win to my account, it's 100% legal. Cell phone with sim card is left at home, I want to be undisturbed on vacation, this data query is illegal anyway in the case, and I am not obliged to keep bills or tickets that prove that I was really there, on the contrary, you have to prove that I was not there. Asking the employer about it, which I don't have because I'm self-employed, is also illegal, apart from that. Go on shitting yourselves and let yourselves be bullied defenselessly, everyone as they like. There won't be any further discussion here if you don't come up with legal facts, but only with wischi waschi.

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Stromberg
Legend

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

3rd Apr. 2025, at 09:42 am CEST#1006
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Zockerbernd wrote on 03.04.2025 at 09:35: You can talk all you want, if I go on "vacation" or a trip and play at Viggoslots or somewhere else with a Curacao license and pay out my win to my account, it is 100% legal legally. Cell phone with sim card is left at home, I want to be undisturbed on vacation, this data query is illegal anyway in the case, and I am not obliged to keep bills or tickets that prove that I was really there, on the contrary, you have to prove that I was not there. Asking the employer about it, which I don't have because I'm self-employed, is also illegal, apart from that. Go on shitting yourselves and let yourselves be bullied defenselessly, everyone as they like. There will be no further discussion here if you don't come up with legal facts, but only with wischi waschi.

This may be the case if you play and pay out once. If dozens of payouts end up in your account over months or years, no one will buy it anymore...


Why do you seriously think that you were the first to come up with the grandiose idea of escaping such a penalty when there are entire law firms specializing in gambling? .. I can't explain it..., 😄

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frapi07
Elite

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

3rd Apr. 2025, at 09:52 am CEST#1007
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Zockerbernd wrote on 03.04.2025 at 09:35: You can talk all you want, if I go on "vacation" or a trip and play at Viggoslots or somewhere else with a Curacao license and pay out my win to my account, it is 100% legal legally. Cell phone with sim card is left at home, I want to be undisturbed on vacation, this data query is illegal anyway in the case, and I am not obliged to keep bills or tickets that prove that I was really there, on the contrary, you have to prove that I was not there. Asking the employer about it, which I don't have because I'm self-employed, is also illegal, apart from that. Go on shitting yourselves and let yourselves be bullied defenselessly, everyone as they like. There will be no further discussion here if you don't come up with legal facts, but only with wischi waschi.

I try to have a really constructive discussion and then I get an answer like this. It's a real shame that you react like that and block things just because I at least don't take the trouble to back it up with laws.

Counter question: why don't you come up with the legal facts? What you claim are also just assumptions like mine or Stromgberg's and do you know why? Because none of us are lawyers. I'm still trying to follow a certain logic.




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bruffl
Expert

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

3rd Apr. 2025, at 10:10 am CEST#1008
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Zockerbernd wrote on 03.04.2025 at 09:35: You can talk all you want, if I go on "vacation" or a trip and play at Viggoslots or somewhere else with a Curacao license and pay out my win to my account, it is 100% legal legally. Cell phone with sim card is left at home, I want to be undisturbed on vacation, this data query is illegal anyway in the case, and I am not obliged to keep bills or tickets that prove that I was really there, on the contrary, you have to prove that I was not there. Asking the employer about it, which I don't have because I'm self-employed, is also illegal, apart from that. Go on shitting yourselves and let yourselves be bullied defenselessly, everyone as they like. There will be no further discussion here if you don't come up with legal facts, but only with wischi waschi.

I've already written that.

It may be that no judge will let that pass.
As for the location of the gambling,
the data is deleted after 4 weeks,
so it can no longer be used in court.

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frapi07
Elite

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

3rd Apr. 2025, at 10:15 am CEST#1009
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bruffl wrote on 03.04.2025 at 10:10 am:

I had already written that.

It may be that no judge will let that pass.
As for the location of the gambling,
the data is deleted after 4 weeks,
so it can no longer be used in court.

This may be offtopic, but how can evidence of cybercrime be used in court if the data is deleted after 4 weeks?

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WithoutWings
Expert

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

3rd Apr. 2025, at 07:57 pm CEST#1010
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Since it is currently usually stopped without conditions anyway, you don't have to Risk making it worse with a lie 😁

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erdbeere1990
Visitor

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

5th Apr. 2025, at 11:56 am CEST#1011
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Hello dear community,

I am brand new here and would like some advice. I have received a summons from the police for a one-off withdrawal of €4000, whereby I deposited just under €1000-1500 with an unlicensed provider. I didn't know this at the beginning because I'm quite new and the site looked like it was in German. In retrospect, however, I noticed this when I read the forum and made some inquiries. Well, now the summons. But it was a one-time gambling and that was also my very first payout of 4000€. The letter also states the facts in February. since the payout, which only appears once on the account, it has never been paid out again

What is the best way to react? I was advised to ignore the letter for the time being, and if something comes from the public prosecutor's office then to call in a lawyer.

Are there people who have done the same? And what COULD I expect in return? Please be considerate with your answers. I know that I should have informed myself better.

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WithoutWings
Expert

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

5th Apr. 2025, at 12:00 pm CEST#1012
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erdbeere1990 wrote on 05.04.2025 at 11:56 am: Hello dear community,

I am brand new here and am asking for advice. I got a summons from the police because of a one-time withdrawal of 4000€ where I deposited almost 1000-1500€ with probably an unlicensed provider. I didn't know this at the beginning because I'm quite new and the site looked like it was in German. In retrospect, however, I noticed this when I read the forum and made some inquiries. Well, now the summons. But it was a one-time gambling and that was also my very first payout of 4000€. The letter also states the facts in February. since the payout, which only appears once on the account, it has never been paid out again

What is the best way to react? I was advised to ignore the letter for the time being, and if something comes from the public prosecutor's office then to call in a lawyer.

Are there people who have done the same? And what COULD I expect in return? Please be considerate with your answers. I know that I should have informed myself better.

If it was really so little I would just sit it out and wait, if you have 1000 euros left to give you a better feeling, you can also get a lawyer to get the case dropped. You won't get a fine. Best regards.

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Butterbrezel
Elite

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

5th Apr. 2025, at 12:03 pm CEST#1013
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erdbeere1990 wrote on 05.04.2025 at 11:56 am: Hello dear community,

I am brand new here and am asking for advice. I got a summons from the police because of a one-time withdrawal of 4000€ where I deposited almost 1000-1500€ with probably an unlicensed provider. I didn't know this at the beginning because I'm quite new and the site looked like it was in German. In retrospect, however, I noticed this when I read the forum and made some inquiries. Well, now the summons. But it was a one-time gambling and that was also my very first payout of 4000€. The letter also states the facts in February. since the payout, which only appears once on the account, it has never been paid out again

What is the best way to react? I was advised to ignore the letter for the time being, and if something comes from the public prosecutor's office then to call in a lawyer.

Are there people who have done the same? And what COULD I expect in return? Please be considerate with your answers. I know that I should have informed myself better.

Hi and welcome to GJ.


Of course, no one can guarantee how the case will turn out, but most of the results from 100 pages of this topic are:

- no answer to the police, you don't have to and you shouldn't
- there have been many cases that have been closed by the public prosecutor's office without further action
- It's best to get a lawyer first if the public prosecutor's office does anything other than dismiss the case

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erdbeere1990
Visitor

Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

5th Apr. 2025, at 12:09 pm CEST#1014
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Hello, thank you, yes, I had planned to sit it out for the time being. Above all, I've never been noticed before and that was also the 1st payout in my whole life. I'm curious to see what comes out of it - now I have to get up every day with a bad feeling haha

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