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Okay, I'm just trying to weigh up the probabilities. I'm now so scared that I can't sleep at night. I've also had around 20 payouts with inpay over the last 16 months... all of which confirms my suspicions about Lottoland.
Will the bank then report me for money laundering or illegal gambling?
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The bank reports suspicions of money laundering when it reports them.
Don't drive yourself crazy. As already described, there are so many players who gamble illegally, of course not every player will be discovered. And if you are one of the few players who are reported by the bank, you can still think about how to proceed. Everything before that is fear / panic, which is not healthy.
How high were your payouts? There has been a case with a small amount of EUR 50.00, but usually the proceedings that have been initiated here in the forum are for players with many transactions in the higher four or five-digit range.
This is certainly also different depending on the federal state and the public prosecutor's office. So it is really difficult to make a prognosis from a "gambler's point of view".
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So the report is made because of money laundering and not because of illegal gambling?
It's really difficult for me to let it go. Especially as I know I can do nothing more than wait and see...
In total, it was maybe €1600 in the last few months
The only indication apart from the summons from the police is probably if the bank gives me notice, right? Then I can assume that the ball will start rolling
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We don't know each other personally, so I don't know what else I could recommend.
As far as I know, there have already been proceedings in other threads about this amount that have been dropped if you simply ignore them. So even if the bank reports it, the police will send you something first, which you can simply ignore without answering. But that certainly varies from prosecutor to prosecutor.
And if the bank cancels the account, there are plenty of other banks where you can open a new one.
As already mentioned, you should stop gambling with the account immediately.
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Thank you for your help.
Does this mean that the charges will always be filed for suspected money laundering and not for illegal gambling?
Can you say that if the account is blocked, the ball is rolling and you need to worry?
Should I possibly cancel the account or will it then be looked at more closely?
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Exactly. The bank is only interested in money laundering. Gambling in general reduces your creditworthiness, but that's not punishable if you gamble legally.
If your account were to be blocked, you could add 1 + 1 together. If you have no other illegal activities on your account, it would be for gambling.
Even if you were to close your account, it wouldn't change anything. Proceedings for money laundering can still be opened within 5 years.
In other words, any undertaking in this area, apart from stopping gambling, would have no advantage.
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Then why do so many indictments here in the forum say that they are investigating illegal gambling? Sorry for the stupid questions, I just want to understand.
Is the account always blocked before an investigation?
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Then why do so many indictments here in the forum say that there are investigations into illegal gambling ? Sorry for the stupid questions, I just want to understand.
Is the account always blocked before an investigation ?
In the worst case, do you have to expect a house search?
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A house search under no circumstances.
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I hope so, that would be the super gau.
So again, you're saying there's nothing I can do at the moment but wait and see? The last payment from inpay was in April, nothing came, the last payouts from Lottoland were last month.
I was thinking about actively contacting the bank and talking about it? On the other hand, I don't want to wake any sleeping dogs and draw attention to this
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No... quite simply and quite clearly: No! If you talk to them about it, you are admitting a criminal offense to them, regardless of whether it is €1 or €100,000. Then they have to report it and, no matter how benevolent they are, they can't just pretend they overlooked it. I would almost say that if you do that, you might as well make a voluntary disclosure.
At the moment, for whatever reason, there's a chance that you haven't caused a stir. This card is 100% gone when you make contact - so just leave it alone. You can't change it at the moment anyway, and anything you could do now would only make things worse.
Your account hasn't been blocked, you haven't been summoned by the police and you've stopped gambling. So you can show by your abstinence alone: "I didn't know it was illegal."
Stay relaxed - you're not a felon!
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Thank you gamble1 for your answer. Of course you are right. I don't know how quick Comdirect Bank is with something like this, but my thought is that maybe they just need time to get the ball rolling. If I think about it, the bank has 5 years to place an ad and I have to live in fear for another few years, then good night. I can't do that, sometimes I feel like I'm about to collapse, that's how much I worry about it.
I know I'm not a serious criminal. But when you read about the cases here, summons to the police, public prosecutor's office and possibly even a house search, I think that's pretty awesome and you just feel like a serious criminal.
Because there have been so many payouts via inpay or Lottoland since January, I don't think the bank would ask again individually but would close the account directly. That's always the case with suspected money laundering, isn't it? Or are there also cases where the account is not terminated and you still receive a report?
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Do yourself a favor and try to find help outside the forum (friends who can help or in this case even psychological/medical help). You seem to be getting extremely, and above all unrealistically, carried away. You are getting caught up in bad images that you are afraid of, even though they are not even remotely real (house search for 1600 EUR).
The fact is that, according to your stories so far, nothing at all has happened in this regard. As already mentioned, the number of players who are "caught" is significantly lower than the number of players who play illegally.
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Hulk I was also with comdirect and they will contact you if they suspect anything. Then you have to provide proof. So they won't suddenly close your account.
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Yes, unfortunately I realize myself that it's taking on unhealthy traits.
Can you tell me something about your case? Which providers and sums did you play and how long did they ask for?
I can't provide any proof. Lottoland is listed in the sales and I closed my inpay account out of self-protection
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