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Betsafe - Experiences in a nutshell?
21st May. 2018, at 03:43 pm CEST#41
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Please address specifically the person who has started to provoke here,
and became unobjective.
Would be somehow fairer. So far it has been a very objective discussion.
stkrie wrote on 21.05.2018 at 14:55: You don't really have to educate me about law
And if you want to sue in the European Court of Justice, I wish you a lot of fun!
Have already written above that not all AGB`s count legally, just because you have accepted them.
That is like with the AGBs, simply again read through, I have of laws within the EU no idea, also of the European Court of Justice not, but if my man explains me in such a way, then it will be also probably in such a way, unless he has no idea of his occupation, which I do not believe however.
I do not want to sue before the European Court of Justice, where did I write something about it?
German law can not override European law, that does not work, if the Court says that Online Casinos with appropriate licenses may operate within the EU, then that is so, German courts can not do anything.
What this has to do with fines, I do not know, this is about regulations and requirements within the EU, which Germany does not implement, no more no less.
To circumvent laws by penalty payments is also not possible for the Germans.
Of course, there are terms and conditions that are not legally permissible, but this certainly does not include any bonus restrictions and conditions that you call fraud, such as the 5 Euro Maxbet Rule or but the restriction of the withdrawal amount for Bonuses, there I have to disappoint you unfortunately.
Now I'm also out of the topic and enjoy the sun outside, already Peter Lustig said once aptly
If I wasn't at work, I would join this smoothly ^^ xD
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Betsafe - Experiences in a nutshell?
21st May. 2018, at 04:23 pm CEST#44
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Since EU law beats national law, you're right, I would have to turn to a lawsuit also accordingly
the EU Court of Justice, since the German courts, at least at the moment, would not decide in my
In my sense would decide. Also a judge may not ignore a criminal offense.
At least as long as it is not regulated and prohibited in Germany.
Müsstest so a few floors higher complain.
A court decision of the EUGH would then fall in a few years, with the corresponding costs.
Is therefore far from any reality.
I have said that AGB`s can be immoral, without explicitly the 5 Euro-bet-rules
to address
But to split bonus rules belongs for my understanding very well to it.
It should be prevented that certain rules are over-read or not found.
The EU Court of Justice ruled that state control of Online Casinos is a prerequisite for permission.
Germany will ultimately retreat to this position, because state control and player
Control and Player protection is factually impossible to implement. If only for the reason that Germany
does not want this at all. So this will probably drag on for several more years.
Wow a real discussion has started here. 😀
Game crashes I also have from time to time, but as soon as the game is reloaded I come back exactly to my starting point. Which was not the case with this crash. This one was really brand new. There were a lot of wilds before (as I wrote before) and these wilds grow in this game and that's where the game stopped and it just went to the next bonus round. Nobody can tell me that no wilds would have followed. I play this game too often.
Let's face it, even if the software had a bug, they probably wouldn't admit it to us because we can't do anything as a small individual either way.
It is simply statement against statement. They have not shown any recognition and I have thereupon closed my account with Betsafe.
The only thing I can recommend to anyone who has an iPhone with iOS 11 is that you record the gaming sessions.
I'll be doing that from now on, and of course I hope I never have to use this video evidence.
Betsafe - Experiences in a nutshell?
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and became unobjective.
Would be somehow fairer. So far it has been a very objective discussion.
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Betsafe - Experiences in a nutshell?
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That is like with the AGBs, simply again read through, I have of laws within the EU no idea, also of the European Court of Justice not, but if my man explains me in such a way, then it will be also probably in such a way, unless he has no idea of his occupation, which I do not believe however.
I do not want to sue before the European Court of Justice, where did I write something about it?
German law can not override European law, that does not work, if the Court says that Online Casinos with appropriate licenses may operate within the EU, then that is so, German courts can not do anything.
What this has to do with fines, I do not know, this is about regulations and requirements within the EU, which Germany does not implement, no more no less.
To circumvent laws by penalty payments is also not possible for the Germans.
Of course, there are terms and conditions that are not legally permissible, but this certainly does not include any bonus restrictions and conditions that you call fraud, such as the 5 Euro Maxbet Rule or but the restriction of the withdrawal amount for Bonuses, there I have to disappoint you unfortunately.
Now I'm also out of the topic and enjoy the sun outside, already Peter Lustig said once aptly
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Betsafe - Experiences in a nutshell?
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the EU Court of Justice, since the German courts, at least at the moment, would not decide in my
In my sense would decide. Also a judge may not ignore a criminal offense.
At least as long as it is not regulated and prohibited in Germany.
Müsstest so a few floors higher complain.
A court decision of the EUGH would then fall in a few years, with the corresponding costs.
Is therefore far from any reality.
I have said that AGB`s can be immoral, without explicitly the 5 Euro-bet-rules
to address
But to split bonus rules belongs for my understanding very well to it.
It should be prevented that certain rules are over-read or not found.
The EU Court of Justice ruled that state control of Online Casinos is a prerequisite for permission.
Germany will ultimately retreat to this position, because state control and player
Control and Player protection is factually impossible to implement. If only for the reason that Germany
does not want this at all. So this will probably drag on for several more years.
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Betsafe - Experiences in a nutshell?
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Game crashes I also have from time to time, but as soon as the game is reloaded I come back exactly to my starting point. Which was not the case with this crash. This one was really brand new. There were a lot of wilds before (as I wrote before) and these wilds grow in this game and that's where the game stopped and it just went to the next bonus round. Nobody can tell me that no wilds would have followed. I play this game too often.
Let's face it, even if the software had a bug, they probably wouldn't admit it to us because we can't do anything as a small individual either way.
It is simply statement against statement. They have not shown any recognition and I have thereupon closed my account with Betsafe.
The only thing I can recommend to anyone who has an iPhone with iOS 11 is that you record the gaming sessions.
I'll be doing that from now on, and of course I hope I never have to use this video evidence.
Have a great weekend everyone ðŸ¤-ðŸ¤-
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